Patty G
Retired WS Staff
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An extremely interesting article written about Casey by 2 Homicide detectives (for those of you who haven't seen it yet):
http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2008/08/did-beautiful-young-florida-mom-kill_03.html
I'm beginning to lean that way but I still can't place my mind directly on premeditation 100%. I still somewhat tend to believe she killed her intentionally but because she snapped. An act of rage.
She created stories and excuses around Caylee's disappearance and the smell of the car. This doesn't sound to me like an accident.
If it was premeditated, I think it was hours before the crime or maybe a day at the most. This could have been a snapped decision because of the fight between Casey and Cindy, although I'd bet Casey had regrets of Caylee since she was hindering her partying and stealing Cindy's attention/affection.
That argument on the 15th seems to hold significant importance to me.
An extremely interesting article written about Casey by 2 Homicide detectives (for those of you who haven't seen it yet):
http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2008/08/did-beautiful-young-florida-mom-kill_03.html
I am on the fence. I don't think TonE had anything to do with it in any sense (coverup included). I think she was enamored with him and that may be why she stole money to buy outfits for her club nights, food to bring to his house, be able to have money for drinks, maybe pot, etc. By TonE's own admission he started to feel suffocated and "joked" with her that he may have to stay in NY & get a job there, etc., which made her very upset according to him. This was his way of getting her to back off a little. So, while he was away, she was sleeping with Ricardo and in her mind that was how she was "getting back" at TonE for making those comments. Jesse had also mentioned she had complained to him about her relationship with TonE (even though she had only known him a month!), so evidently her knight wasn't in such shiny armor after all, so she was already feeling agitated that all her stealing and everything was going to come out in the open and her lies to Amy about living together, etc. would come crashing down, then the fight with her parents. That was the last straw and she left with Caylee that night in a vengeful rage and God help Caylee if she even whimpered. We may never know the rest of the story, but that's how I think her thinking may have been going. I don't think she left the house with the intention of killing Caylee, but I do think she did maybe accidentally on purpose.
This is from my friend colomom, another WS poster, from the Madeleine McCann thread. Very informative.
http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html
Computer searches and their dates have not been made public but when they are I believe NG will be proven wrong. I believe we will see chloroform searches *POST DATE* Caylee's disappearance--in fact FIT quite neatly within an accidental pool drowning scenario--since we now have every reason to suspect chloroform may have actually been used to destroy the ODOR or DNA--AFTER Caylee's decaying body had been inside trunk. Even THEN, the nagging question still remains by WHOM (I've got another theory re that). NG is far too eager to pronounce this tragedy a coldblooded, premeditated murder when even Casey herself when pressed by Lee ADMITS and alludes to the fact her mother's right afterall--that she really IS an "UNFIT" mother. (After tonight I really miss Greta's objectivity, all this gnashing of teeth is getting tiresome.) Don't get me wrong, there is NOTHING Casey did in the aftermath of this heartbreaking tragedy that is appropriate, reasonable or how any HUMANE, RESPONSIBLE, CARING ADULT would act! But the "rain falls on the just and the UNJUST" (including narcissists, fools, liars and thieves) and NEGLIGENCE, POOR PARENTING, FOOLISHNESS AND SELFISH PRIORITIES do in some instances CAUSE DEATH. One more silent toddler drowning--concealed after no one was answering her panicked calls because she couldn't face her mother or bear responsibiity for what she allowed to happen--for being the incompetent mother her mom always told her she was. 71 years worth of fraud, stolen and forged check charges YES Felony child endangerment YES!!! Lying to investigators YES!! Obstruction of justice!!! YES Criminal negligence YES!!! Abuse of a corpse YES!!!! Premeditated murder? I don't think so. We shall see as soon as we know ALL the cards LE is working with. IMHO
Motive, that is the key I think proving premeditation. So many things in this case and been researched and debated to the nth degree, in some cases going off on wild tangents in the search for clues. Yet all of the ideas about motive seem rather weak to me, "she wanted to be free and party" or "she trying to get back at her mother". There is more evidence of the former, yet the latter seems more realistic.
As I've read things to understand her psychological profile, it becomes more and more clear to me that she craves being the center of attention. To the point that she gets what she wants if people hate her or love her. It doesn't matter because both are attention. So if it was premeditated, I believe it was all about her being at the center of attention.
Which if true, means that while some people may have thought the events of the past couple of days might not have been something she never wanted to happen. On the contrary, I think she is sitting there right now basking in all the attention.
Maybe she left the body where she did thinking it would be easy to find? Maybe she is sticking to such outrages lies because she knows it drives people crazy and makes them angry. Her actions are effecting the thoughts, feelings, and actions of so many others. And as long as that continues, she is in control which is exactly what she wants.