a view from the inside: observations from our own court observers #4

[Kaddy Wonders]

You might be talking about Bryan Carr. He started talking about Blood Atonement and I think he was jettisoned from the inner circle.

A very tiny inner circle I assume. I guess m'am shut him out.

 

[katiecoolady]

Thank you for making this clear explanation! :tyou:

Does borderline mean bordering on sociopathy (psychopathy)? Or on the border between two "-pathies"? :smile:

:doh:

Lol no it's it's own version of Hell right here:

http://psychcentral.com/lib/2007/symptoms-of-borderline-personality-disorder/

Obviously none of us can diagnose but this chick personifies most of the worst -pathies IMO.

 

[Hally]

Any employer can use it. Normally it would be used for a job where the person is likely to have a lot of independent power over others or could put others in physical danger.

Also, it is not the Office of Personality, it is the Office of Personnel Management.

Let me get my glasses and put them on, no wait take them off, no on. This damn FOG, I can't remember if I am wearing them, I just don't know my, brain is scrambling it's the way you talked to me. :great:

 

[katiecoolady]

Let me get my glasses and put them on, no wait take them off, no on. This damn FOG, I can't remember if I am wearing them, I just don't know my, brain is scrambling it's the way you talked to me. :great:

Can someone please direct me to the Office of Personality Management? I need an appt! :floorlaugh:

 

[AZlawyer]

Let me get my glasses and put them on, no wait take them off, no on. This damn FOG, I can't remember if I am wearing them, I just don't know my, brain is scrambling it's the way you talked to me. :great:

:floorlaugh:

 

[PASA]

Was that the officer shooting on west side at apts where kid thought it was probation after him?? What's sad is we have so many officer shootings in valley!!

Remember when things were so much more like an overgrown small town?? When parents could drop kids off at Big Surf for the day & most excitement on weekends was kids cruising the circle at Metro Center?

His name is Anthony Holly. He was a Glendale officer, not Phoenix. My mistake.
Juan will be prosecuting.

Yes, I remember when it was like a big little town here.

 

[Shelby1]

Omg that made me lol. I was also reminded of a pm I got (who was it I forgot now..maybe you!). Where she said " just tell them to go play a game of hide , seek and go F yourself" . :floorlaugh: I don't think I will say any of that in court...just keepin it on topic.

I also decided that I'm gonna make a copy of websters page that has the word veracity on it for writing a thank you note to jM at the end of the trial. :rocker:

I usually prescribe a nice, big, steamy cup of shut the *advertiser censored** up.

 

[snowshuze]

Katiecoolady,

Thank you sooooo much for your dedication, time, and effort. It's so very much appreciated, and I can hardly wait to come read you.


:blowkiss:

 

[PASA]

Pleasure to meet you as well! I believe I will make an afternoon session now that I have an understanding of the schedule and cueing. And I have a fabulous husband but he's not as fabulous as yours when it comes to my interest in the trial watching support. What I really love is that Travis' family knows we are all there to support them.

And then there is always HH!

Aww thanks, he's good most of the time. LOL!

Hope to see you in court soon. We'll try to get seated together.

Yes, they do know we are there to support them and are appreciative of us coming down and being there for them
and Travis. They are very nice people.

 

[PASA]

You know that is interesting and I agree on your JM comment. I almost get the sense that his voice is affected naturally by his emotions. When I am doing a presentation and am nervous or if I feel really strongly about something it affects my voice. In between sessions, he seems very pleasant, relaxed and even smiles. I cannot imagine the pressure he feels to do justice for this family. He seems to be a really good guy.

I totally agree with everything you said. He is the voice for Travis. If he doesn't give his all there is a chance Travis won't get the justice he deserves.
MOO.

 

[katiecoolady]

Katiecoolady,

Thank you sooooo much for your dedication, time, and effort. It's so very much appreciated, and I can hardly wait to come read you.


:blowkiss:

Awwww. Many thanks xo

 

[sweetmop]

These are Pasa's kids? Just adorable!!!

Quoting myself, but I'm sorry, thought they were Pasa's kids... Frigga you're children are adorable!

 

[clg42867]

Did you guys catch that Jodi filed a restraining order against the courtroom observer who got ejected from court yesterday? Please!!!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...70776896.54624.160510210691796&type=1&theater

Arizona State Code ARS13-1105 I looked up the code, can any legal eagles help with understanding the reasons as to why it is being filed now?


13-1105. First degree murder; classification

A. A person commits first degree murder if:

1. Intending or knowing that the person's conduct will cause death, the person causes the death of another person, including an unborn child, with premeditation or, as a result of causing the death of another person with premeditation, causes the death of an unborn child.

2. Acting either alone or with one or more other persons the person commits or attempts to commit sexual conduct with a minor under section 13-1405, sexual assault under section 13-1406, molestation of a child under section 13-1410, terrorism under section 13-2308.01, marijuana offenses under section 13-3405, subsection A, paragraph 4, dangerous drug offenses under section 13-3407, subsection A, paragraphs 4 and 7, narcotics offenses under section 13-3408, subsection A, paragraph 7 that equal or exceed the statutory threshold amount for each offense or combination of offenses, involving or using minors in drug offenses under section 13-3409, drive by shooting under section 13-1209, kidnapping under section 13-1304, burglary under section 13-1506, 13-1507 or 13-1508, arson under section 13-1703 or 13-1704, robbery under section 13-1902, 13-1903 or 13-1904, escape under section 13-2503 or 13-2504, child abuse under section 13-3623, subsection A, paragraph 1 or unlawful flight from a pursuing law enforcement vehicle under section 28-622.01 and, in the course of and in furtherance of the offense or immediate flight from the offense, the person or another person causes the death of any person.

3. Intending or knowing that the person's conduct will cause death to a law enforcement officer, the person causes the death of a law enforcement officer who is in the line of duty.

B. Homicide, as prescribed in subsection A, paragraph 2 of this section, requires no specific mental state other than what is required for the commission of any of the enumerated felonies.

C. An offense under subsection A, paragraph 1 of this section applies to an unborn child in the womb at any stage of its development. A person shall not be prosecuted under subsection A, paragraph 1 of this section if any of the following applies:

1. The person was performing an abortion for which the consent of the pregnant woman, or a person authorized by law to act on the pregnant woman's behalf, has been obtained or for which the consent was implied or authorized by law.

2. The person was performing medical treatment on the pregnant woman or the pregnant woman's unborn child.

3. The person was the unborn child's mother.

D. First degree murder is a class 1 felony and is punishable by death or life imprisonment as provided by sections 13-751 and 13-752.


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[PASA]

MOO...My own opinion

BBM...BlackBerry Messenger... Or I had to look it up, cause I'm internet stupid. Brains by Mattel, don't think that is what they meant. lol And you don't want to know the other slang it could be :blushing:
Welcome!

BBM= Bolded By Me (bold text)
HTH

 

[Hally]

Ok this is getting freaky right now. My childhood home was on Elm street...true story! Are you stalking me??? (Please?). :floorlaugh:

Umm no, no way - it was accident I taped our conversation, bought gas and wore a damn adult diaper when I decided to visit you, because you "guilted" me. I loved the welcome sign on the damn doggie door, too. Don't worry my journal is all the LOA, postive, positive.

PS. seriously on elm street?

 

[katiecoolady]

Umm no, no way - it was accident I taped our conversation, bought gas and wore a damn adult diaper when I decided to visit you, because you "guilted" me. I loved the welcome sign on the damn doggie door, too. Don't worry my journal is all the LOA, postive, positive.

PS. seriously on elm street?

YES!!!:what:

 

[Hally]

YES!!!:what:

Ha, it is a typical addy to be fair - you just wait until you see mine, via PM ofcoarse. Not the one I grew up on, where I live now and have since forever. Oh, this will NOT make sense until you check PMs.

I am going to add I make the best stuffing ever, and for the flow purposes - I hope Nurmi/Wilmcott get stuffed.

 

[Paintr]

This week he was speaking to her (why jenny was busy doing something) and Jodi started to speak and I think he told her to shut up and listen, because she looked down and he kept talking. Makes you wonder what he was telling her?

To the DT, JA as a person really doesn't matter.She is a means to an end. Do they believe her? Lets see....

KN is starting his own practice. This trial is free advertisement for him. If he gets anything less than the DP, he will have a lot more clients.

JW is an ambitious woman. She is soaking up JM's methods like a sponge. This is a great learning experience for her and any kind of win will be a boost to her career.

Dr. RS will pocket a large chunk of change and more defense lawyers who need a 'slightly slanted' expert will set his phone to ringing.

ALV (the dv expert) gets free publicity for her cause. If JA is given a harsh sentence, it will be cried as a blow to all battered women. If JA receives a lesser sentence it will be a blow struck for all DV victims.

Everyone has their own agenda. Liking JA isn't one of them. (except maybe Dr. Strangelove Samules :floorlaugh

 

[Hally]

I interpreted that question as someone with a possible background or friends in Human Resources, not Psychology.

Really, well they know that the test is administered to future employees, not everyone does, including those in HR. I guess that would depend on the company one works for. yes, no?

I cannot erase the fact one juror is aware of this test, I had to google it myself.

 

[PASA]

Ok, I'm gonna make ONE MORE post about the complaints about this thread and then do my level best to stay ON TOPIC and stop addressing it. Because the spirit of this thread, our support of this trial and this family is to bring LIGHT to the situation, not Downerville and believe me these complaints have been seriously killing my buzz if you can't tell.

1. This thread is NOT exclusively just for observations.

2. The observations generate questions and discussion.

3. 1+2 = this will never be a thread you can just "pop on" and find the observations. There will always be some kind of need for you to search for the observations. On your own.

4. Those of us serving up our observations are doing enough to just do that. To expect us to alter them or in some way do something to make them more convenient to read is just not reasonable and it's not happening. WE ARE DOING ENOUGH. Now of course if you want to send PASA and I a car service to take us to court, a perdiem for our meals and HH and a hotel to stay in should we get tired one evening, then we'll talk. Oops, wrong show, that was Ricki Lake.

5. In every thread there are occasional OT posts, jokes, tangents that briefly come in. If someone was to do a forensic analysis of this thread, I"m sure they would find the vast majority of posts are questions and discussion about the observations. Not even the observations themselves which make up a small portion of it. It's reasonable to have discussion over those observations. That's what WS is about--DISCUSSION. By it's very nature, even with an occasional OT post, you will have to find YOUR OWN SYSTEM to find the actual observations. <mod snip>

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I think that's it.

Now I'm going back to read what I find to be pertinent points and questions to respond to (you see we are not only posting observations but we follow up with questions and sometimes take "assignments" to take in to court). That is the point of this entire endeavor second to supporting the family which is my (and PASA's) primary goal here.

And then, I'm taking my Badass self in to my Sunday and outside after a nice cup of coffee.

:seeya:

I would like to add something. It is emotionally draining some days because of the nature of the trial. We go to HH to decompress, it can be that stressful. KCL and I walk back to our cars exhausted. It's hard to explain unless you've been inside feeling what the family is going through.
I realize there are and tourists (if you will), but that is not us. We are there to support the family. To show we care about them and justice for their brother who was slaughtered.

I am not complaining, or whining. I'm merely explaining that when you're inside you feel what the family feels, you feel for the family and what they're having to endure.

That is why I've had to take a few days away from the trial. I dream about it, I wake up several times a night thinking about it. I needed the break.
His family can't get a break, it's very sad.