a view from the inside: observations from our own court observers #8

[MeeBee]

Katiecool
Before I loose my train of thought!
How (many) times did she say during her testimony that she (mis-spoke) , she claimed she mis-spoke, even to the deposition she had with juan.
Jennifer coached during lunch and dinner breaks.

Ok back to reading your post.

Of course she did. Notice how when she was saying damming things, she didn't even realize it but the next day she'd suddenly realize she "misspoke"? And isn't funny that Samuels "misspoke" about the exact same things? Think it's obvious to the jury that they are covering for Jodi? It should be. And it kind of puts the computer "misspoke" into perspective.

 

[ElleElle]

As ALV is still under subpoena, i'm assuming she is still testifying?

Correct me if i'm wrong, but, wasn't the last of the jury question on Friday?

 

[atthelake]

Regarding her journals...(I can't remember where I read it and hopefully someone else does)...it was said that they were going to analyze the ink in them to see if she has been writing in them using the stolen pens.

You know, like Re-Fabricating her memoirs.

wherever you read this, I would disregard the source. that was done in the Caylee Anthony case.
which reminds me...I need to light a candle on wolf mom 's thread. :seeya: over there, especially R0004!

ETA sorry, I thought I was on the main thread when I posted this.
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[ElleElle]

If there even a hint of a lie, or in this case and admission of lying, personally, I do not give it benefit of the doubt.

I think Juan said "lying is not a liar?" or something to that effect. :rocker:

I don't know what pot she stirred, but i'm thinking something may happen on Monday.

Of course she did. Notice how when she was saying damming things, she didn't even realize it but the next day she'd suddenly realize she "misspoke"? And isn't funny that Samuels "misspoke" about the exact same things? Think it's obvious to the jury that they are covering for Jodi? It should be. And it kind of puts the computer "misspoke" into perspective.

 

[Bernina]

Oh, katiecoolady, your assessment of Alyce is spot on. Especially the "big-fish-in-a-small-pond-itis".

Where this woman EVER got the idea that it would be okay to swear to tell the truth in a court of law and then proceed to pull the antics she pulled for days on end, is beyond me.

She hemmed. She hawed. She tried to change the subject. She gave an answer that was unresponsive to the question asked. She claimed confusion about the question. She claimed confusion about the date. She claimed confusion about texts, IMs and "g-mails".

She got snarky with the Prosecutor. She claimed lack of memory. She interjected -or tried to interject - inappropriate information about herself into her answers. She was instructed numerous times by the judge to "answer the question".

And this woman calls herself a professional??

For all the bad press Arizona gets, I imagine that the 2 "experts" thought they were dealing with a jury of gun toting hicks and a Prosecutor in boots and a Stetson hat, in Po-Dunk Phoenix.

 

[marciec]

I can't wait for this Witness. I am sure that Dr. Demarte is a true expert, as well as a very reputable one at that. I am so looking forward to her testimony!!!

Me too.. and (unlike ALV), with no stake in who's seen as "winner".

ALV's behavior was so bizarre. Right away, she appeared to see Juan's demeanor as not just adversarial, but personal. Maybe it's been a while since ALV was called out as 'wrong'; maybe she's not accustomed to being challenged. If in 30 years she's never testified against a woman; or chose to appear on a MAN'S behalf, I'm not sure she's ever been called out.

IMO, the jury questions are the result of common sense, a steady growth in the publics awareness of DV; and some very significant & positive changes in society's view of abuse in families.

Maybe she believes that for 30some years, it's been her stated opinion that persuades not just juries, but whatever 'group' she's speaking to. But isn't it just that today, a majority of society does condemn domestic violence, and we know it when we see it? Several people have said hers was one of the voices that, for many years, taught us what DV looks like. As one for whom abuse & violence was a common part of her childhood ~ I am deeply grateful for ALV & others who's work changed how we view it.

But today I think we're pretty clear about this. For her to now advocate the OPPOSITE of what we have learned over the last few decades is outrageous! Thankfully, it appears to be falling on the deaf ears of 16 very important people.

 

[Gypsy Road]

If there even a hint of a lie, or in this case and admission of lying, personally, I do not give it benefit of the doubt.

I think Juan said "lying is not a liar?" or something to that effect. :rocker:

I don't know what pot she stirred, but i'm thinking something may happen on Monday.

I could have sworn she said something to the effect that Jody isn't a liar, but a frightened individual, too. Does anyone else remember that? I think she said that during Juan's questioning on Thursday. I couldn't believe my ears.

 

[katiedid2]

She's putting something into the empty carafe!!

She puts Kleenex into the pitcher and then shakes out the water and tissues into her cup. She then takes more Kleenex to dry it. I think she's leaving a note or something in the now empty, dry carafe.

That's crazy why would she do that? I mean who would get the contents out of the carafe? Her attorney or mitigation specialist. It's just bazaar behaviour.

 

[marciec]

:crush: :cupcake:

Omgoodness, how cute is this???? Happiness!! Love love love it!

 

[nickster]

Three that I caught: 1) knife on nightstand; 2) shot in closet; 3) pictures on the computer. All three huge misspeaks. Then there were those answers she did not want to give such as Travis being "extremely" fearful because of Jodi's stalking. Pretty bad when the Judge has to remove the jury so defense can tell her, again, to answer the question truthfully.

Monday should be very interesting. I wonder if Sam was upset when she came out of the meeting in the Judge's chambers because ALV denied approaching her, or that ALV claimed she said nothing to Sam. And if the hearing with Ms. Wong has to do with what they may have captured on video? No response required if you suspect or know but I would not put it past ALV to deny she was trying to make contact.

You forgot another one about, cutting her fingers peeling an apple. She has a lot of misspeaks. Didn't JM say he was going to impeach her or am I wrong?
She thought she was so coy, not answering questions. We will see who has the last laugh. I can't say what I'm really thinking or IDE go to ban camp.

 

[Suzanna in Arizona]

Jodi can plot until the cows come. She can live in La La Land and plan revenge till the fat lady sings. She can say "mark my words" till it rains cats and dogs. She can try to enlist people to join her dog and pony show. In other words, she's up the creek without a paddle and I for one can't wait till she kicks the bucket!:bullseye:

Unfortunately, it can be many years before she is put to death if she gets the DP. Appeals and stays can keep a murderer waiting many years. She can halfway enjoy living at least 10 to 15 more years, I think.

 

[osabung]

I have a feeling that if ALV would have been forthcoming and honest in her answers JM would not have had to ask each question 'every way to Sunday' to get what he needed. ALV brought any stress on herself by being a bully. I :beats: ♥ ♥ JM

Boy, am I glad ALV was not forthcoming and honest in her answers. It would have given her testimony more weight. The jury can see past the deceptive and incomplete answers ALV gave JM. If ALV was the best the DT has, Arias sure is in trouble. :jail:

I LOVE JM!!!! :blowkiss:

 

[Suzanna in Arizona]

For all the bad press Arizona gets, I imagine that the 2 "experts" thought they were dealing with a jury of gun toting hicks and a Prosecutor in boots and a Stetson hat, in Po-Dunk Phoenix.

We just moved south of Phoenix about 10 months ago, and I never had any notion that Phoenix was Po-Dunk. However, where we moved FROM is definitely in Po-Dunk area, not too far from where the brilliant (cough) Casey Anthony jurors tried Casey. Need I say more?

 

[Tesstruhart]

As ALV is still under subpoena, i'm assuming she is still testifying?

Correct me if i'm wrong, but, wasn't the last of the jury question on Friday?

Alyce is still under supeona. The judge actually said that. When ALV started to say something about having tests, the judge said "don't tell me about your personal issues, you are still under subpeona and I will give you the option of Monday or Tuesday to return. Please let me know. This is a priority."

Now exactly what the priority is, I don't know. I think Alyce doesn't want to be there for sure.

 

[marciec]

A tiny bit OT here, can't help it - anyone else read Egg Tree News? (http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com) OMgoodness, when I need a good laugh, she never fails. She's a JA trial watcher and has been writing about it for some time. 100% pro-prosecution..Nothing nasty, just very witty about that which we can laugh about.. Maybe she's a secret sleuther, who knows?

 

[Caylee Advocate]

I wonder if ALV was under subpoena for the trial, OR was one issued for what may be happening this coming week? Hopefully she isn't hospitalized beforehand, regardless, I hope she isn't hospitalized period. I wish no ill-will on her.

 

[Suzanna in Arizona]

I wonder if ALV was under subpoena for the trial, OR was one issued for what may be happening this coming week? Hopefully she isn't hospitalized beforehand, regardless, I hope she isn't hospitalized period. I wish no ill-will on her.

I do not wish her any ill-will either, but I would not be surprised if she gets hospitalized from anxiety and heart palpitations~!

 

[Soliloquy]

I do not wish her any ill-will either, but I would not be surprised if she gets hospitalized from anxiety and heart palpitations~!

I had a thought. What if that was not true at all and she's facing contempt charges for feigning illness and holding up the trial.

 

[Soliloquy]

I could have sworn she said something to the effect that Jody isn't a liar, but a frightened individual, too. Does anyone else remember that? I think she said that during Juan's questioning on Thursday. I couldn't believe my ears.

She actually took it a step farther and not only said that Jodi was frightened, not a liar, but also that ANYONE WOULD HAVE DONE IT. I'm sure that came as a shock to the jurors. It's unfathomable how much absurdity has come out of this woman's mouth.

 

[katiedid2]

Pattern regarding ALV: first she's sick and court is canceled; then she goes to ER and we hear about it in the media (making a record if it? - usually that's a private thing); then there's a mistrial motion that references the stress she's endured; then there's a significant media story about it, in the middle of her testimony; then she's photographed in a known media hangout almost as if she was placed there for that purpose; then she tells the judge, today, that she can't be back to court on Monday because she's having more "tests." She felt the need to say that while the cameras were on her. Probably more "stress" tests.

There's the record, all ready for the motion...

They have their nerve the DT that is. So juan takes a pic with someone how is that considered a crime.
This witness has shown not only bias to Jodie. I seen her about to leave the courtroom than she turns around and heads towards nurmi to give him a big hug. They both smile and chit chat for a few and the cameras shut off.