Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #187

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Doesn't it seem odd that Click only pushed that narrative much later? 5 or 6 years later?

I 100 percent see no reason for the 4 characters that he so badly wants to be responsible to be protected by LE. If they were behind the murders, they would have been charged.

Jmo, Click is salty because he didn't get to be the hero in this case. He wanted to have the answers and those just didn't hold water.


AJMO
IMO i think that there is a strong alliance/brotherhood within Law enforcement so I don’t take it lightly that a law enforcement officer is putting his reputation and relationships on the line to come out against fellow officers and say “this isn’t right”.
 
We know that there was an FBI task force created of Click, Murphy and Ferency to research suspects possibly related to this case and that Click came forward via a lawyer when he saw RA arrested and read the PCA because he thought his work on the 3rd parties was far more direct and compelling. IIRC the last time Click appeared in court regarding his investigation was March 2024.

Again, this is a path of investigation early on. Nobody in LE thinks this now. Click even said that.
This path was abandoned way back then. Just because Click was in love with it, does not mean it was the the way to go. LE certainly does not think that now. Click is not a part of LE now and hasn’t been for awhile. The Odinist angle was investigated to LE’s satisfaction and dropped.
That does not indicate any disagreements. Click is no longer a part of this, though he certainly wants to be.

More opinion
 
He is doing a fantastic job when his hands are tied and unlike the defense can’t do multiple Franks to get around the gag order to try and get social media brigade foaming at the mouth about poor RA.

IMO

He doesn't need a Franks memo to get the social media brigade foaming at the mouth about RA. The PCA did that.

IMO MOO
 
IMO i think that there is a strong alliance/brotherhood within Law enforcement so I don’t take it lightly that a law enforcement officer is putting his reputation and relationships on the line to come out against fellow officers and say “this isn’t right”.

This can't be emphasized enough. They usually stick together. Just look at what's happening in Canton, Mass.

IMO MOO
 
He doesn't need a Franks memo to get the social media brigade foaming at the mouth about RA. The PCA did that.

IMO MOO

Well when you murder two teenage girls it does tend to get people quite upset. So the fact RA was capable of committing such barbaric acts it does get people emotional. So the PCA didn’t change that as soon as he was charged people were rightly quite vocal. Now he has confessed 50+ times and all the game playing on the defense part it’s just got people more upset at what some perceive as a lack of respect towards the victims families.

imo moo imho
 
Not sure how anything can be 'proven' prior to trial. However it is believed by many that Richard Allen did indeed have a gun on him.
Many here talk as if it is fact. And that RA is a child killer, as if it is fact.

The fact is we don't know anything until trial except that Abby and Libby were murdered. And another fact is that RA is innocent until proven guilty. He's not a child killer. Yet.

IMO MOO
 
Many here talk as if it is fact. And that RA is a child killer, as if it is fact.

The fact is we don't know anything until trial except that Abby and Libby were murdered. And another fact is that RA is innocent until proven guilty. He's not a child killer. Yet.

IMO MOO


This forum isn’t a court of law so we are allowed opinions.

Also again this is in a court of law but he is already guilty in his own eyes hence the multiple confessions to anybody who would listen.

Moo
 
Many here talk as if it is fact. And that RA is a child killer, as if it is fact.

The fact is we don't know anything until trial except that Abby and Libby were murdered. And another fact is that RA is innocent until proven guilty. He's not a child killer. Yet.

IMO MOO


Public opinion is separate from a court of law.

It's acceptable for people to feel a certain way based off evidence available.

JMO
 
IMO i think that there is a strong alliance/brotherhood within Law enforcement so I don’t take it lightly that a law enforcement officer is putting his reputation and relationships on the line to come out against fellow officers and say “this isn’t right”.


There is a brotherhood.
I know from experience because both of my parents were LE and my entire youth was spent as a part of the pack.

Having said that, there is a clear lack of solidarity with the Rushville officers and other members of LE.
 
I was subtracting the walking time to get from bridge to crime scene and then crime scene to CPS building. I’ve watched a handful of videos with people doing the walk themselves so it was an estimate of how much time would be left over once you exclude the walking time (a general estimate because I don’t know really how fast this person actually walked)
From end of bridge to crime scene is 8 minutes. We do not know where on W300N RA was seen “like he had been in a fight” walking west by the person driving the East. No where has it been confirmed it was at the CPS parking lot ( although that would be damning).
Per Gary Hughes timeline RA most likely had from 2:25-3:30 pm isolated at the crime scene. That’s a very long amount of time to be alone with a murderer with two deadly weapons.
Of course you can disagree but I believe statistically most child abductions with a SA intent are murdered within the first hour.
This is no different in my opinion.

 
My opinion is the author(s) of the Franks made an error in describing the crime scene. They did not get correctly identify who was wearing what article of clothing.
Simple as that.
All my opinion

They would have taken photos of the crime scene and of both victims so that will be cleared up when it goes to trial - as in what clothes were worn.
 
It was what we were told for over 6 years. @CCJD posted a link as a refresher just this afternoon. Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #187
In that article, posted at 10:29pm on Feb 13th, 2017, they got Libby's age wrong, the time they were last seen is off by 48 minutes, the girl's cellphone was ringing for awhile and pinging some after that and Abby was not a blonde. All that is very understandable as it was very early reporting. I'm guessing the gray sweatpants was yet another early mistake and depended on who was being asked. The search was still frantically active the night of the 13th. JMO
 
In that article, posted at 10:29pm on Feb 13th, 2017, they got Libby's age wrong, the time they were last seen is off by 48 minutes, the girl's cellphone was ringing for awhile and pinging some after that and Abby was not a blonde. All that is very understandable as it was very early reporting. I'm guessing the gray sweatpants was yet another early mistake and depended on who was being asked. The search was still frantically active the night of the 13th. JMO

I don't know what to tell ya. It was the same story for over six years. Nobody said a word about it being wrong until the Franks memo, followed by the leaked photos, came out. * shrug *
 
They did seem to get it wrong about where Libby's phone was discovered, under Libby's body not Abby's. I'm sure photos were taken of that also.

They would have taken photos of everything for evidence 100% as well as for criminal profiling , if possible, and obviously to use in a court trial if a perpetrator(s) was found.

When the trial takes place all photos and video footage taken at the time should come out then if relative or important.
 
How do you think he got his hands on a completely different change of clothes for Abby? Clothing that neither one of them were originally wearing? I realize you think it's a lie simply because it's in the Franks memo, but many, many people saw the photos and commented publicly on them. So, IF it's true....what's your feeling about it? Willing to brush it under the rug as unexplained? Just curious how you'd rationalize it.

I'm not seeing any facts from LE as to what the girls were wearing when they were discovered. That information to my knowledge has not been released. When this gets to trial I'm certain all these "comments" will be straightened out. The jury is going to hears facts as presented by the prosecution and the defense, not by what other's heard.

LE should know for fact what Abby was dressed in. I do not know, nor do I think Richard Allen brought clothes from his home to redress Abby. I would not even attempt to guess, simply wait for trial. But that would be a shocker for me.
 
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