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Wouldn't it be cool if Juan could put a real DV victim on the stand tomorrow? They could tell the jury the injustice Arias has done to their stance. Making it harder for true victims to get justice.

Do we know the order of the witnesses for sure? State. DT, state?
 
I find it extremely satisfying to know that this vile murderer is in closed custody tonight, and will only be able to leave her cell for 1 hour a day, unless she's in court.

Although she's now eligible for the death penalty, which, according to Arizona state law she deserves, I feel that it would be a more grievous punishment for her to spend the rest of her life in jail (since she says that longevity runs in her family), knowing she can never leave, can never travel to any of those 1000 places to see before you die. Every day in prison would be torture for her. She deserves to suffer for her horrendous crime, IMO.

I think spending the rest of her natural life in prison would cause her more suffering than being put to death.

IMO, death is too good for her.

BBM:

I disagree. Being in prison with the general population, she will adapt, have her followers, hypnotize, and function just fine.

Being on death row, being isolated, unable to chat with her co-mates, not able to manipulate or control others will drive her bat s*** crazy, for the 15 years she would be alive.

Death, albeit faster for her, will drag out much longer with the mind games swirling in her lonely head, while she sits all alone, waiting.

JMO.
 
[:pillowfight2:quote=Bernina;9440026]*Snipped by me*
I would suggest you become acquainted with "anti-social personality disorder" (aka "sociopath), "narcissism", and just a brief overview of "borderline personality disorder". (BPD sufferers, not trying to offend).
Then, take a good look at JA's history of "morphing" to suit her surroundings. Look at her ability to LIE without missing a beat.
What JA is can't be fixed, by medication or therapy. She is wired differently.
Travis' friends SAW that. That doesn't make them immature, cliquish, whatever. That makes them OBSERVANT. That shows they are concerned for the well being of their friend. It's not a "Mormon" thing, a "Young Adult" thing, it's common sense.
TA dumped JA while she was still living in Calif. She sent TA an email saying someone was "stalking her", that she was scared, blah, blah, blah. The "Mystery Man". She moved to Mesa with no job prospects, no place to live, NOT because of this fictitious "stalker", but to control TA.
Etc, etc, etc............

I am Ex-Mormon, my dad is BPD, Narcissistic/Antisocial PD. So I know many of your "assumptions" are your "opinion" without any real life experience or knowledge.

I think you might just want to watch the whole trial, check out the "Armchair Psych" thread here on WS, and take a look at court documents that have been posted here....

I don't think this is a celebration, more of a sigh of relief for people who have felt the Justice system was failing. JMO[/quote]

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I heard Dr Drew ask him if he thinks the jury could give her the death penalty but realized he could not talk about that and moved on. Nothing about the DUI that I heard?

Correct he said nothing about the DUI

number 8 said" I feel like I let them down"

Dr Drew was digging for DUI .. number 8 did not go into it he tried to change the subject.

Again Dr Drew asked why did you feel you let them down.

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I didn't see ANY point to the pedophile allegations about Travis. That was low, without ANY evidence and completely irrelevant. It didn't have anything to do with the subject at hand. Nothing.
However, I also thought that the salacious details of Jodi's sexual history were irrelevant. Was it really necessary for us to hear the shrink on the stand tell us at what age she first performed oral sex?
What purpose did that serve? Is she atypical of the average American girl in terms of her sexual history? NO.

The whole concept and presentation of sexuality in this case was disturbing and made me think that we haven't evolved much since the 19th century.
Condemning Jodi for being a murderer was appropriate, but making her out to be a Jezebel and a *advertiser censored* was unfair and inappropriate. Clearly, she and Travis had a mutually satisfying sexual relationship that was hard for either of them to turn away from.
The fact that she is painted unfavorably for the sex is bothersome to me....hate her for the killing. That is what this trial was about.

I might add that my reactions are as a discerning woman.......I just don't like the old double standard about sex.
The jury has decided that Jodi is a murderer.....that is reason to condemn her, the rest was completely unnecessary and offensive to me on many levels.
 
As I've watched videos of this trial and saw JA's mother share laughter & smiles with those sitting next to her, I've wondered how in hell she could have been experiencing any feeling of joviality while her daughter was on trial for 1st degree murder, especially after hearing the gruesome circumstances of the murder.

I was stunned.

dh and i were talking about how the mother could look at those autopsy pics and not flinch. just didn't know what to make of it. smh
 
Ok, been studying/sleeping?

Has the jury come back with a sentence? tia I'll search around youtube for what I missed.
 
This is going to sound so cliché but I really do mean this. I've been trying to 'do better'. I have been here for so long, watching the trial, crying with all of you over the horrific brutal murder of Travis Alexander. I have posted like so many of you, what a wonderful man he had been. I am glad to know of him, and so sorry about how I came to know of him. But I do think of him every day. And I want to be more like he was. I have a biting tongue in real life and I've used it here to post VERY negative things about JA. I've made comments about others too, but with much less disdain. For all of us who now love and admire the Alexander family, I think we should make a conscious effort to practice what Travis preached. I don't want what he brought to the world in his short time to fizzle out. It only takes one person, doing good to another, who does it for another, and another. That is what Travis's legacy should be about.
I have to say, that if I died tomorrow by any means, I would be so proud to have the things said about me that were said about Travis. He mattered to so many. I want to matter too. I'm going to do something kind, every day. I'm going to make the people I interact with feel that they matter too. I won't ever forget Travis Victor Alexander. In his horrific death, he makes me want to do better. Because he has made me 'know better'. God bless him and his wonderful family.
 
He//, Jodi IS a migraine!! Grrrrrrrrr.

Not that I like her defense team so much, but let's face it, peeps, they had nothing to work with.

It's like your final in art class and your assignment is to do a rendering of Jodi Arias who is in front of you sitting on a stool. She is wearing a black and white prisoner's uniform, and she has a bloody knife in her hand.

You have your canvas, but the professor gives you a brick & a broomstick as your paint and brushes to do the likeness. Time starts now!

ITA.

Pensando en la immortalidad del cangrejo......por todo la eternidad.....

And it is done.
 
BBM:

I disagree. Being in prison with the general population, she will adapt, have her followers, hypnotize, and function just fine.

Being on death row, being isolated, unable to chat with her co-mates, not able to manipulate or control others will drive her bat s*** crazy, for the 15 years she would be alive.

Death, albeit faster for her, will drag out much longer with the mind games swirling in her lonely head, while she sits all alone, waiting.

JMO.

I totally see it from your (and others) perspective, as well. Being isolated on death row would definitely cause her to suffer, but it would also provide her hope & comfort, since she claims that she wants to die, and claimed that death is "ultimate freedom".

Life without parole will not give her any hope at all of attaining "ultimate freedom" any time soon, since she's only 32.

I don't care whether or not she receives the death penalty or LWOP. I only hope that she's miserable for as long as possible before she leaves this earth.
 
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#jodiarias Defense listed Kim Ross - Fellow inmate & Patricia Womack as sentencing witnesses + Daniel Freeman (confirmed he was notified)

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I didn't see ANY point to the pedophile allegations about Travis. That was low, without ANY evidence and completely irrelevant. It didn't have anything to do with the subject at hand. Nothing.
However, I also thought that the salacious details of Jodi's sexual history were irrelevant. Was it really necessary for us to hear the shrink on the stand tell us at what age she first performed oral sex?
What purpose did that serve? Is she atypical of the average American girl in terms of her sexual history? NO.

The whole concept and presentation of sexuality in this case was disturbing and made me think that we haven't evolved much since the 19th century.
Condemning Jodi for being a murderer was appropriate, but making her out to be a Jezebel and a *advertiser censored* was unfair and inappropriate. Clearly, she and Travis had a mutually satisfying sexual relationship that was hard for either of them to turn away from.
The fact that she is painted unfavorably for the sex is bothersome to me....hate her for the killing. That is what this trial was about.

I might add that my reactions are as a discerning woman.......I just don't like the old double standard about sex.
The jury has decided that Jodi is a murderer.....that is reason to condemn her, the rest was completely unnecessary and offensive to me on many levels.

UMMM..cough...cough...it was HER attorney who said all those things about her sex life...oh, and the convicted killer! It wasn't the Prosecutor. You are correct, the trial should about her murdering Travis 3 x's over, but HER TEAM made it about sex, lies, sex, lies.

I'm so happy it turned out to be the wrong defense. The convicted killer should have just told the truth and begged for mercy. JMO
 
I didn't see ANY point to the pedophile allegations about Travis. That was low, without ANY evidence and completely irrelevant. It didn't have anything to do with the subject at hand. Nothing.
However, I also thought that the salacious details of Jodi's sexual history were irrelevant. Was it really necessary for us to hear the shrink on the stand tell us at what age she first performed oral sex?
What purpose did that serve? Is she atypical of the average American girl in terms of her sexual history? NO.

The whole concept and presentation of sexuality in this case was disturbing and made me think that we haven't evolved much since the 19th century.
Condemning Jodi for being a murderer was appropriate, but making her out to be a Jezebel and a *advertiser censored* was unfair and inappropriate. Clearly, she and Travis had a mutually satisfying sexual relationship that was hard for either of them to turn away from.
The fact that she is painted unfavorably for the sex is bothersome to me....hate her for the killing. That is what this trial was about.

I might add that my reactions are as a discerning woman.......I just don't like the old double standard about sex.
The jury has decided that Jodi is a murderer.....that is reason to condemn her, the rest was completely unnecessary and offensive to me on many levels.

But it was her team who put all that out there

She tried to make this trial about her & Travis's sex life

This was her doing,no one else!!
 
I absolutely do celebrate this justice that has been done so far. I celebrate because I have a deep reverence for justice for victims. I take it very, very seriously. When justice is not served, it is agonizing and undermines my faith in mankind.

And as a bonus we got to see her in SHACKLES. I celebrated that, too.
 
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