AL AL - Lisa Altimari-Wallace, 35, Eufaula, 27 Oct 2012

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I'm trying to figure out a scenario where the husband could have done something to her, but without knowing the timelines of Lisa and her husband, it's tricky to understand.

Since the husband was in the bar on Friday night and no one has come forward claiming that they babysat that night, Lisa must have been at home looking after the baby. We know that the husband got stuck in the mud on the way home. Is it possible that he murdered her after he got home even though he had no way of hiding what he did until after he picked up his truck? Do we know anything about what he did on the Saturday afternoon after leaving their child at his mother's place?
 
Breazy said:
I think it's more likely that husband's truck got stuck in the mud after something went down rather than on his way home. JMO. I pray Lisa's found! :please:
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It seems that, from the house, if there was a murder, Lisa could have been taken in one of two direction: back towards the city, or down a fairly deserted road towards the river's edge. I would be surprised if she was taken towards the city in the middle of the night ... since he was drunk. Towards the river makes sense to me. The truck was stuck between the bar and home ... not between home and the river's edge ... so I think it's possible that he did get stuck on the way home.
 
hollyblue said:
RSBM

This is what really ticks me off. LE coming out and saying they have no evidence of foul play.....SO she must have just left on her own because she has done it before. In other cases, ie: Gail Palmgren, that wasn't even the case. WELL....if your not looking for any evidence of possible foul play....you're sure not going to find any. I hope LE if following through and digging. The mother being so far away doesn't help her either....and with Lisa's past it may be hard for her to find assistance; but for some reason the mother's gut is telling her...her child is missing and there is something wrong. I'll go with that.

Agree, the do need to go back and compare the last time she left with this time. She was younger, could have been drug related, or intimidation with lots of fear, etc. No doubt there is dysfunction here either...and that can interfere in so many ways. Mainly taking the focus off of the real concern.....Just finding "LISA" .

IMO, JMO, etc.
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I've come to the conclusion that whatever happened in Lisa's past probably has little to do with her disappearance ... with the only significant factor being that her husband probably knew that if she disappeared, there might not be much urgency in the police department.
 
4menandalady said:
Her mom was suppose to make the trip today, that is what she told me Sunday. I am waiting to catch her online later or my other Aunt to see if they have any updates. At this point she is still missing and there has been no leads at all. LE doesnt believe it was foul play (mainly because of her past).

Regardless of her past, she is till a missing person. Maybe it is by her own doing, maybe not. But something is VERY WRONG either way. Family wants all the help they can get. Everyone is worried about her and wants her to be found safe and sound. Her daughter really needs her mama!
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I can understand the position the police have taken because of her past, but I've heard of "welfare checks", where police are asked to check on a property to ensure that the occupants are safe. I wonder if there's something similar that can be done when someone is missing and there is some doubt as to whether they are okay. That is, is there anything that police can do to assure loved ones that Lisa is fine ... and if they are unable to assure anyone that she is fine, doesn't that mean that she may not be fine and may need assistance?

For example, let's assume that she did leave the house voluntarily at 1 pm on Saturday afternoon. Let's assume that she was upset about an argument, grabbed some clothes and left. Where did she go? If she went to Canada (rumored that this happened before), then there will be a record of her having a passport and crossing the border. If there is no evidence that she did this, then where did she go? Was she abducted on the road heading towards the city? If there is no trace of her since that afternoon, doesn't that mean something may have gone wrong ... isn't that enough for police to investigate the possibility that she is near home, but no longer able to contact anyone?
 
I think that maybe we need to rally together and to stand behind Lisa, to look past the past. I get the impression that some of the disagreements that may be happening in the background (and I know nothing about this except what is written here) may be because people are looking at the past.

If everyone stands behind Lisa, leaving police as the only party not concerned enough to do something, then it's better for the investigation ... in my opinion. I think that we need to be confident that she would not let her mom worry in this situation. I think her mom needs to be confident of this. Once her mom is confident, then everyone should believe in her. Is her mom confident that Lisa would have contacted her by now?

She has been missing for a long time. I read a comment under the one article about her disappearance. It said that she had never been missing this long before, and that was at least a week ago. It's fine to delay an investigation because maybe she left voluntarily, but after enough time passes, everyone has to accept the fact that something is not right ... even if she did take off before.

It reminds me a bit o Paige Birgfeld. She was a single mom with a job and a mortgage. She escorted, on the side, to cover the bills. Something went wrong and she vanished. Police had all sorts of evidence, but they came up empty ... she was an escort. The community organized searches and found evidence along the highway. She was found partially buried a few years later (this year) just off that same highway. There has been no arrest, but there has always been a very strong suspect. Her father believes that because she was an escort, police treated the situation differently.

We also have the disappearances of Victoria Stafford and Lyric Cook. Both had mothers that were drug addicts, and this influenced public opinion about whether their 9 and 10 year old daughters really were abducted.

That may be what is happening here with Lisa ... people are looking at her and thinking that maybe whatever happened ... she brought it on herself. I don't believe that is true. I think that at the very least she would contact her mother ... I'm guessing that this is what she eventually did in the past. If her mother is worried sick, then she needs to be heard.
 
Camdenres said:
http://www.wtvm.com/story/20161127/...ed-missing-nearly-a-month-family-seek-answers

newest article...not one bit more info a month into her missing.
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Finally!

"No foul play has been deemed at this time and authorities have no suspects in the case. If you have any information on the whereabouts of Lisa Wallace or any information regarding the case you are asked to please contact the Eufaula police department 334-687-1200."

http://www.wtvm.com/story/20161127/...ed-missing-nearly-a-month-family-seek-answers
 
otto said:
Finally!

"No foul play has been deemed at this time and authorities have no suspects in the case. If you have any information on the whereabouts of Lisa Wallace or any information regarding the case you are asked to please contact the Eufaula police department 334-687-1200."

http://www.wtvm.com/story/20161127/...ed-missing-nearly-a-month-family-seek-answers
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oh, not what i wanted to hear.

could it be possible that the 'not at this time' may also mean they are awaiting some forensic evidence? why would they then say "no suspects in the case"?
 
scorekeeper said:
oh, not what i wanted to hear.

could it be possible that the 'not at this time' may also mean they are awaiting some forensic evidence? why would they then say "no suspects in the case"?
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I think it means that, at this time, they cannot rule out the possibility that Lisa left voluntarily. I think police need more information, any type of evidence, before they can conclude that there was foul play. If I lived in the area, I would be searching along the river just north of the house.
 
otto said:
I think it means that, at this time, they cannot rule out the possibility that Lisa left voluntarily. I think police need more information, any type of evidence, before they can conclude that there was foul play. If I lived in the area, I would be searching along the river just north of the house.
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Thanks, otto.

yes the river and also the ponds behind the house....
 
There's a veneer company up the road....I'd check their property. Maybe the mother was and was shooed off and this was the company she was "disappeared" to. Lots of earthmovers, raw dirt from loading logs.....just sayin'. With so much disturbed earth being driven over every day.
 
scorekeeper said:
oh, not what i wanted to hear.

could it be possible that the 'not at this time' may also mean they are awaiting some forensic evidence? why would they then say "no suspects in the case"?
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What forensic evidence? His DNA would be all over the place anyway, since he lived there, also the girlfriend's. Unless they found a lot of blood or signs of a struggle or a murder weapon, they don't have probable cause to get a SW for a full forensics search.
As far as the statement of "no suspects" that's not unusual. Most LE don't name suspects unless it's glaringly obvious, or they are ready to make an arrest, and apparently they don't have enough evidence against him or anyone else at this point. They may see this as indication that she just walked out on her own and will turn up somewhere eventually.
 
I can't believe this has drug on for a month..... with NOTHING new to surface. Still praying.
 
Tracey4AU said:
I can't believe this has drug on for a month..... with NOTHING new to surface. Still praying.
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I know it's unbelievable. I wonder if her Mom did come up earlier this week and meet with LE.

Can anyone local or verified please give us an update...

TIA
 
I'd like to know what the river is like. Is it a place where people would canoe or kayak, or is it more of a place to avoid.
 
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