All Casey Cell Phone LOGS and PINGS Part#3

[Pink Panther]

Just looking @ this pattern Cindy' Cell & Anthony home => Casey, FWIW...

6/15 thru 6/24: Calls are hit & miss during this period. 0 to 2 a day, most <1min. and most from Anthony home. 1 call on 6/24 @ 3:15PM lasts 5mins. (gas cans?)

6/25: Cindy sends her first text msg to Casey (don't have pre-6/15 records yet)

(NOTE: Casey sent her first text to Cindy 6/18 @ 10:52AM...this was first break of silence since "flurry" of calls 6/16)
Casey returns 2 texts messages 6/25.
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6/26: Cindy calls Casey and has almost a 10min conversation + 1 text msg

6/27: Cindy calls 3 times in PM ranging from <1min to 6 mins, + 1 text msg

6/28: No activity

6/29-7/3 Mid-day: All calls are from Anthony home (none from Cindy's Cell) and appears almost all of them are ignored and go to vmail (if interpreting correctly)

7/3 mid-day: Cindy's texting starts to explode. (Day Cindy posts on Myspace)

8 in <3hrs, then 1 call for 11 mins.
Then 4 texts from Cindy,
Then 3 calls from Cindy lasting <3mins
Then 16 texts from Cindy until 11:17PM
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7/4: Morning Cindy calls Casey and they talk for 30mins

7/4 - 7/15: Cindy calls ~1-4/day and most appear to go into vmail. Cindy texts ~4/day

Bond - Just a couple of things to note...6/29 to 7/3 - CA was off work. She took the week off so that's probably why the calls were coming from the Anthony home rather than from her cell. Also - the 3rd (not sure what time the calls occured) but CA does mention in her interview that she was supposed to meet up with Caylee at Universal but that they didn't show up so, she must have been quite angry about being stood up.

This is also the day she posted her one and only post on myspace...Sounds like she was perhaps getting desperate and panicky at this point. (She mentions somewhere else - I can't remember where - that she didn't know how to do anything on the computer so it's likely that LA helped her set up the myspace page that very day.) July 3rd - LOTS of stuff happening...Lee was trying to get in touch with her and I believe that he and her talked in the wee hours of the morning of the 4rth.

ETA - Where are you seeing all of this phone information? I can't find anything that has been consolidated?!! To use Muzikman's phrase, I am definitely a noob with this stuff but would really like to help to analyze if possible!

 

[mommya]

Bond - great work - and PinkP. too - just want to add in about July 3 - that's the night that Casey said Lee was coming to see her at the bar so she boogied. Also July 3 is the day Casey told Jesse not to take any calls from her mother.

ETA - I think July 3 is when the new paver work was done too.

 

[Pink Panther]

I am finding pings between the 16th and 17th of July very interesting, when it is known that KC does not have the cell phone. From midnight to 12:45 pm on the 16th, the towers near KC's parents' home ping. Then there is movement out of the normal area (which there would be with a new user carrying the phone), but I wonder if someone was sent on a mission out to Lake Cane and a wooded area close by. Does anyone know why there would be activity out there?

7/16

12:41:51 - Chickasaw Trl Rd; 28.5444 -81.2767472

12:45:58 - Lowell Blvd; 28.5542778 -81.3328611

13:04:53 - Dr. Phillips Blvd, Lake Cain Hills; 28.4869444 -81.4919444

13:06:57 - Quiet Oaks Ln, Lake Cain Hills; 28.4905556 -81.4681694

13:40:13 to 14:11:06 - Dr. Phillips Blvd, Lake Cain Hills; 28.4869444 -81.4919444

14:36:13 to 14:38:12 - Quiet Oaks Ln, Lake Cain Hills; 28.4905556 -81.4681694

14:42:48 - Hospitality Way; 28.4658333 -81.4602778

15:06:18 until end of records on 7/17 - Michigan Ct; 28.5475028 -81.4113194

These pings that we now assume to have occurred while she was taking LE on a wild “goose chase” got me thinking a lot. I keep thinking that this little trip she took them on had to be because SHE wanted to see something. So, I mapped it out on google maps and I was stunned to see that it basically goes right by the La Bella Vita resort that has been discussed on various occasions. Seeing the map gives this possibility a whole new meaning! Is it possible that she took them there because she wanted to see this location???

I have always believed that the tattoo she got had meaning and when I saw this map, I went in for a closer look. Right near the area, to the right of Little Sand Lake, is Lake Marie. Just a little further south is a Cindy Street. This morning while doing the rounds of the blogs, I saw that this was being discussed again on the SM blog (not because of these pings) so there is certainly lots of other information available about this. It’s not a new idea but perhaps one worthwhile revisiting?

Apparently, Jesse’s house is nearby and most certainly this area fits with her “comfort zone”. I’m not sure that pings to this area appear in any of our logs but we have been discussing the possibility that she could have been turning her phone off sometimes; this location could fit into that kind of a scenario.

It has been bothering me so I had to post it. I’m not sure that I’m convinced that this could be a viable location but it’s been nagging at me. Just something to think about...

 

[mommya]

QuietStorm and PinkP. -

Dunno if it ties in - but when George followed Casey that day she took Cindy's car - he said he followed her on the 408 out to the west side of town and lost her at the Kirkman Rd. or Hiawassee exit I think. That is a bit north of Lake Cane - but you'd still take that way to get there probably?

Also - it is Jesse's parents who live near Lake Marsha - Jesse had an apt. on the other side of town. Still could be relavent tho - we know the G's watched Caylee when she was younger - it must have been at their home out there.

 

[TexasLil]

These pings that we now assume to have occurred while she was taking LE on a wild “goose chase” got me thinking a lot. I keep thinking that this little trip she took them on had to be because SHE wanted to see something. So, I mapped it out on google maps and I was stunned to see that it basically goes right by the La Bella Vita resort that has been discussed on various occasions. Seeing the map gives this possibility a whole new meaning! Is it possible that she took them there because she wanted to see this location???

I have always believed that the tattoo she got had meaning and when I saw this map, I went in for a closer look. Right near the area, to the right of Little Sand Lake, is Lake Marie. Just a little further south is a Cindy Street. This morning while doing the rounds of the blogs, I saw that this was being discussed again on the SM blog (not because of these pings) so there is certainly lots of other information available about this. It’s not a new idea but perhaps one worthwhile revisiting?

Apparently, Jesse’s house is nearby and most certainly this area fits with her “comfort zone”. I’m not sure that pings to this area appear in any of our logs but we have been discussing the possibility that she could have been turning her phone off sometimes; this location could fit into that kind of a scenario.

It has been bothering me so I had to post it. I’m not sure that I’m convinced that this could be a viable location but it’s been nagging at me. Just something to think about...

Pink Panther,

I had posted about this exact location about a month ago. I was more focused on the Boo Boos Lake area which is just south of the resort. Interesting that more than one of us had a funny feeling about this location. Also, I've always wondered too if, in some crazy way, she was "about" to take them to the body after the Sawgrass visit and when they got to Universal they busted her lies and she went deeper into the sociopath denial mode and knew she couldn't give up the body location at that point.

Now, we have nothing to prove this theory or any other pings in that area prior to the 16th. Just odd feelings on both our parts.

 

[BondJamesBond]

Will put this on individual day threads, but, putting here also since they don't see the same level of scrutiny as it will here.

IIRC, Brian B. states shovel day is 6/17 or 6/18 and Casey borrows shovel ~1:30-2:30PM or as late as maybe 3PM...not quite certain, but, she has it for ~1hr.

Consider the following ping, fb & computer forensic info and which may support shovel day as 6/17 or 6/18.

All times are approximate based on pings entering/leaving area...

ON TUE 6/17:

2:29PM...arrived @ G&C's...1 min call to Ricardo
2:44PM...attempted call to Tony...pinged @ G&C's
2:44PM...~20 second call to Tony...pinged @ G&C's
2:45PM...attempted call to Clint...pinged @ G&C's
2:45PM...~10 second call to Clint pinged @ G&C's
3:15PM...Facebook msg'd Amy "can't wait to get you moved in" (likely @ G&C's, IMHO)
3:31PM...downloaded Father's day pics to laptop (likely @ G&C's, IMHO)
3:53PM...text to Tony...pinged Lee Vista Area (note: pics downld @ 3:31, then ping @ 3:53..then next ping back @ G&C's)
3:55PM...text to Tony...pinged back @ G&C's
3:56PM...text to Tony...pinged @ G&C's
3:57PM...text to Tony...pinged @ G&C's
4:04PM...attempted call to Tony...pinged @ G&C's
4:05PM...~10 second call to Tony...pinged @ G&C's
5:20PM...called 9899#...Chris S. security gate maybe?
5:20PM-8:38PM...no cell activity...Chris S. states Casey there in dark Grand Cherokee​

ON WED 6/18:

3:16PM...arrived @ G&C's...short (seconds) call to Tony
3:42PM...pinged @ G&C's...2 min call to Tony...
4:11PM...left G&C's before this time...2 min call to Amy...pinged NE of Chris S. house​

NOTE: Brian B. comments on seeing the PONTIAC backed into the garage. 6/17 events suggest Casey had to change cars between 4:05PM and 5:20PM to have Tony's GC @ Chris' by 5:20. Hmmmmm :waitasec:

 

[Pink Panther]

QuietStorm and PinkP. -

Dunno if it ties in - but when George followed Casey that day she took Cindy's car - he said he followed her on the 408 out to the west side of town and lost her at the Kirkman Rd. or Hiawassee exit I think. That is a bit north of Lake Cane - but you'd still take that way to get there probably?

Also - it is Jesse's parents who live near Lake Marsha - Jesse had an apt. on the other side of town. Still could be relavent tho - we know the G's watched Caylee when she was younger - it must have been at their home out there.

It does tie in. If you map it on google from the A's home to Little Sand Lake, that's the suggested route. There are other routes of course, but that's the one that comes up. It's 20. 5 miles and the estimated time one-way is 33 minutes.

 

[david918]

Great analysis Bond. Makes it easy to see there was definitely something going on between the two of them.

Would LOVE to see those texts that Cindy sent!!! Hopefully LE got them all and just hasn't released them yet.

I think what is interesting is how the only time KC and LA talked or texted is the early AM hours 7-4. This is probably due to CA not being able to reach KC so LA tried. I find it a bit odd that KC and LA did not communicate.

 

[BondJamesBond]

I know many have beaten the proverbial dead horse w.r.t. the missing phone#'s. At this point, do you think a "Missing phone#'s" thread would yield a renewed interest/new WS's and perhaps resolve a few more #'s? Or has that effort run its course?

I'm working off of a list that has at least 19 #'s still unidentified.

Whaddya think?

 

[bullet225ho]

I'd like to see a list of all the numbers myself and who they belong to.

19? wow, that's alot of numbers.

 

[Pink Panther]

I know many have beaten the proverbial dead horse w.r.t. the missing phone#'s. At this point, do you think a "Missing phone#'s" thread would yield a renewed interest/new WS's and perhaps resolve a few more #'s? Or has that effort run its course?

I'm working off of a list that has at least 19 #'s still unidentified.

Whaddya think?

Great idea! Where can we see the existing list?

 

[TexasLil]

Great idea! Where can we see the existing list?

I'm not sure if we could make any additional progress or not. Here is the missing list with the third number omitted. Feel free to move to a new thread if you think it's worthy:

77X-111-0102
32X-331-1996
40X-756-2823
40X-462-0293
40X-883-3008
81X-268-3418
40X-282-3833
40X-836-4102
86X-361-4999
40X-629-5765
32X-231-6564
32X-377-6993
77X-713-9232
40X-415-9290
32X-278-9765
95X-478-9899
40X-478-9999
40X-447-9999

 

[Pink Panther]

I'm not sure if we could make any additional progress or not. Here is the missing list with the third number omitted. Feel free to move to a new thread if you think it's worthy:

77X-111-0102
32X-331-1996
40X-756-2823
40X-462-0293
40X-883-3008
81X-268-3418
40X-282-3833
40X-836-4102
86X-361-4999
40X-629-5765
32X-231-6564
32X-377-6993
77X-713-9232
40X-415-9290
32X-278-9765
95X-478-9899
40X-478-9999
40X-447-9999

Thanks TexasLil! Has the list with numbers and known names been posted somewhere as well???

 

[Georgia PI]

Ping Map for July 1, 2008 is posted in the other thread.

 

[realist]

I'm not sure if we could make any additional progress or not. Here is the missing list with the third number omitted. Feel free to move to a new thread if you think it's worthy:

77X-111-0102
32X-331-1996
40X-756-2823
40X-462-0293
40X-883-3008
81X-268-3418
40X-282-3833
40X-836-4102
86X-361-4999
40X-629-5765
32X-231-6564
32X-377-6993
77X-713-9232
40X-415-9290
32X-278-9765
95X-478-9899
40X-478-9999
40X-447-9999

3833 is a Taxi Company
5765 is a Back line to Gentiva (CA's employer)
The 9899 and 9999 numbers are ATT numbers used for transferring data.

 

[TexasLil]

3833 is a Taxi Company
5765 is a Back line to Gentiva (CA's employer)
The 9899 and 9999 numbers are ATT numbers used for transferring data.

Actually I should have taken the 3833 number off the missing list. That ended up being a data transfer error and was later corrected. So she didn't ever call the taxi company,

Thanks for the others... I'll add the descriptions to the list. Are you 100% confident on the 9899 and 9999 numbers? Only ask because others had speculated something different.

 

[BondJamesBond]

3833 is a Taxi Company
5765 is a Back line to Gentiva (CA's employer)
The 9899 and 9999 numbers are ATT numbers used for transferring data.

Thanks, realist.

A quick follow-up...

There are (407) and (954) area codes listed for 9999 numbers. Do you mean to include both as "ATT numbers used for transferring data."?

...and, if you'll humor me, what's an example of "transferring data"? I've speculated these are used to send codes to unlock security gates (e.g. apartment/gated community, etc.)...would this fit?

TIA!

 

[TexasLil]

The 0293 number belongs to someone by the name of Antionette? Any one heard of this person?

The only call is a text sent by Casey on the morning of 7/16 and IIRC she wasn't in Casey's phone book.

 

[BondJamesBond]

I know many have beaten the proverbial dead horse w.r.t. the missing phone#'s. At this point, do you think a "Missing phone#'s" thread would yield a renewed interest/new WS's and perhaps resolve a few more #'s? Or has that effort run its course?

I'm working off of a list that has at least 19 #'s still unidentified.

Whaddya think?

...I'll PM Tricia to see if she'll support a "Missing #'s" thread as a standalone to see what we can do about narrowing those down w/o destroying the general cell/ping discussion...we'll see...

 

[Black Magic Woman]

I sure do.

Everyone knows that your phone is traceable. I think it's possible she left it at home when she didn't want it known where she was at

or

that she went out dumped it in a field by the airport, went somewhere totally different and came back to get the phone. If true she is sitting back laughing at everybody combing the airport, knowing she disposed of her somewhere totally different. :furious: We shall see if she was that smart, I doubt it but you never know!

I'm inclined to believe that she was way more savey than we're giving her credit for. Every time I watch CSI I am reminded that was her favorite program. I believe she either turned the phone off (battery out) or left it someplace as you've described above. Sociopath yes, stupid no. just hope LE is taking that possibility seriously.