GUILTY AR - Beverly Carter, 49, Little Rock, 25 Sep 2014 - #10

[jstkiddn]

thanks jstkiddn. This does change quite a bit- my brain needs to shift. Does anyone remember or have a link for what time their meetup time was?

According to the info in the mental eval:

Carl Carter stated that his wife, Beverly Carter, is a realtor with Crye-Leike Real Estate and called him around 1730 hours informing him that she was going to show this house to an unknown person.

http://media.arkansasonline.com/news/documents/2015/02/26/CK_Image.pdf

So she called CC at approx. 5:30 pm. That would was about the same time there were the 3 texts between BC and AL. Of course, we have no idea where BC was when she made that call to CC. At home? At the office? Already on her way? It would be speculation to guess how much time lapsed between her call to CC and her actual arrival at the house. Could have been 2 minutes or could have been an hour.

 

[jstkiddn]

Looking at the timeline with the corrected times, it stands out that AL did not use the TextMe number for ANY outgoing activity after the crime was committed. The only activity afterwards were incoming calls and texts. The very last OUTGOING activity from AL were the texts to BC's phone at approx. 5:30, which was about the same time as she called her husband and told him where she was going.

 

[KateB]

Since AL's trial date is set for 12 Jan 2016, this thread is moving to Currently Awaiting Trial forum. I put it on the Community Calendar here:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=2755&day=2016-1-12&c=1

Those that don't check the thread regularly can request a reminder at that link. As the date approaches, if there are delays and postponements, I'd appreciate an alert so the calendar can be updated.
Thanks.

Link to all of Beverly's threads: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/tags.php?tag=beverly carter

 

[arkansasmimi]

According to AL Textme Subscriber info: page 3

Sign up date was: July 12, 2014

Last Login was (UTC) Sept 26, 2014... that time and date would be after subtracting 5 hrs... Thur Sept 25th, 11:08pm


IP WHEN NUMBER WAS ASSIGNED: 166.137.147.82 on July 12, 2014 **that IP shows up Benton AR here http://addgadgets.com/ipaddress/index.php?ipaddr=166.137.147.82

Shows the idfa was turned on.. wasnt sure what that is so https://support.google.com/adxbuyer/answer/3221407?hl=en
"Identifier for Advertising (IDFA) for iOS devices

Every iOS device comes with an identifier that allows developers and marketers to track activity for advertising purposes. It may be used by advertisers to run remarketing campaigns and record purchasing or downloading conversions."

Geolocation: Longitude: -92..02 / Latitude 34.9024

 

[arkansasmimi]

IP 166.137.123.219 shown as last 2 IP on Text Messages Sent at 5:28 and 5:34 pm on Thurs Sept 25th... JMHO :thinking:AL going to pick up CL from "clinical" ? We do not have CL or BC phone records, so will be interesting. We heard at the very beginning that BC phone pinged at Roosevelt RD... which IF AL were taking CL back to get her car, or to Benton as he went with Det. Allison on Sept 29th, Roosevelt would be on that route.



From 9142061776 (AL) to 5019441559 Beverly Carter Crye-Leike REALTORS - North Little Rock Office: Mobile: (501) 944-1559

IP Address: 166.137.123.219
Decimal: 2794027995
Continent: North America
Continent Code: NA
Country: United States
Country Code: US
Region: Arkansas
City: Unknown
City Latitude: 34.7465
City Longitude: -92.2896
http://addgadgets.com/ipaddress/index.php?ipaddr=166.137.123.219

elected Location (Approximate)
Address:112-172 Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Drive, Little Rock, AR 72201, USA
Latitude:34.746499°
Longitude:-92.289612°
http://www.findlatitudeandlongitude.com/

drive time from that ^^ IP area to the 14202 Old River Drive Scott AR.. 23 min https://www.google.com/maps/dir/142...5e083b38b6b!2m2!1d-92.2896766!2d34.731041!3e0

 

[sammy32]

Google search shows 870-298-9629 as a Sprint phone in Arkadelphia, AR. I know it has been a year since the phone was registered, but I think it might be proof that it is not a text.me account. JMO

 

[arkansasmimi]

Google search shows 870-298-9629 as a Sprint phone in Arkadelphia, AR. I know it has been a year since the phone was registered, but I think it might be proof that it is not a text.me account. JMO

one place I saw the number said it had been in use since 2009... prefix from Arkadelphia AR but now in North Little Rock area...
Having said that... my cell phone number when given to me on our plan, is a prefix that shows up abt 75 miles from where I LIVE. From a landline it is long distance lol. While I have a couple theories, I also realize because of my own #, it could mean nothing.

Also, I know online there are a few ways to surf the web without your IP addy showing. It gives a false one. After looking at the IP on Texts sent, goes from Cleburne TX, to Baton Rouge LA, to OKLA City, which are very possible... but in one case, the # was at the location of AL/CL home, then in OKLA City, than back home iirc within roughly 30 min. (pg 15)

ETA: Where AL/CL lived there are many military families from all over the nation/world. So just because a # comes up say California, doesn't mean that call was to someone IN California...

 

[jstkiddn]

Also, I know online there are a few ways to surf the web without your IP addy showing. It gives a false one. After looking at the IP on Texts sent, goes from Cleburne TX, to Baton Rouge LA, to OKLA City, which are very possible... but in one case, the # was at the location of AL/CL home, then in OKLA City, than back home iirc within roughly 30 min. (pg 15)

ETA: Where AL/CL lived there are many military families from all over the nation/world. So just because a # comes up say California, doesn't mean that call was to someone IN California...

The services are called VPN's. They can hide your IP address.

RE: the phone numbers and locations. You are correct about the example you used (California # not being in CA). It's quite common for people to share cell plans with family members across the US. My daughter's old riding instructor lived here in Arkansas (and had for years) but his phone number was a New Mexico number.

 

[arkansasmimi]

I was thinking about the dates on the records released.. Per affidavit from custodian of records for Textme, Sept 9-Sept 29, 2014. JMHO this would be the complete month of September that the app was used. I was curious if the other numbers meant anything. JMHO they are showing that AL made first contact with Beverly by calling her cellphone at 4:31 pm on Wed Sept 24. (during this September time frame). ** we have no way of knowing if any prior contact was made using this Textme # or any other number to BC only from records given. The crime at hand took place within the times provided.

 

[arkansasmimi]

After eyes crossing and a heck of a headache later. not claiming its perfect, but as near as I can get it:
**note because of times being UTC, you must on the military time -12 to get time... then on that time and the phone call times, -5 to get the actual time. :gaah:

WHO (UTC)TIME ACTUAL TIME CHARACTERS

AL 4:31 PM 335 SEC (5 MIN 35 SEC) FROM TEXTME # to BC cell#

BC 4:37 PM 571 SEC (9 MIN 31 SEC) FROM BC HOME LANDLINE to AL Textme cell#

AL 21.55.20 4:55:20 PM 25

AL 22.00.51 5:00:51 30

BC 22.01.01 5:01:01 59

BC 22.11.39 5:11:39 28

BC 22.14.21 5:14:21 1

BC 22.14.57 5:14:57 85

AL 22.15.09 5:15:09 6

BC 22.26.39 5:26:39 36

AL 22.36.08 5:36:08 29

AL 22.36.18 5:36:18 27

BC 22.37.38 5:37:38 80

AL 22.38.45 5:38:45 28

BC 22.38.56 5:38:56 87

BC 22.39.25 5:39:25 36

BC 22.40.25 5:40:25 58

AL 22.41.20 5:41:20 5

AL 22.41.55 5:41:55 40

BC 22.43.25 5:43:25 8

AL 22.43.35 5:43:35 7

BC 22.49.51 5:49:51 39

BC 22.53.58 5:53:58 24

AL 22.55.52 5:5552 8

BC 22.56.38 5:56:38 60

AL 22.56.10 5:56:10 49

**DATE SHOWS 9/25 AT THIS POINT BUT HAVE TO DO TIME CHANGE, SO STILL WED, 9/24/2014

AL 13.08.28 8:08:28 PM 27

BC 13.10.17 8:10:17 40

AL 13.16.58 8:16:58 103

BC 13.18.18 8;18:18 72

BC 13.18.51 8:18:51 68

AL 14.39.14 9:39:14 26

AL 14:39:59 9:39:59 36

AL 14.40.27 9:40:27 38

BC 14.50.37 9:50:37 87

AL 14.52.27 9:52:27 84

BC 14.53.00 9:53:00 35

AL 14.54.17 9:54:17 19

BC 14.55.34 9:55:34 68

BC 14.56.43 9:56:43 23

AL 14.57.44 9:57:44 7

BC 14.58.14 9:58:14 34

AL 14.58.27 9:58:27 3

AL 14:59:29 9:59:29 29

BC 15.00.10 10:00:10 9

BC 15.00.25 10:00:25 3

AL 15.00.29 10:00:29 2

BC 15.00.58 10:00:58PM 47

*** THURS SEPT 25, 2014

**AL TEXTME CELL # TO BC CELL #

8:58PM 3:58PM 944 SEC (15 MIN 44 SEC)

***AL TEXTME CELL# TO CL ACTUAL CELL

8:19 5:19PM 0 SEC

8:19 5:19 PM 0 SEC

8:20 5:20 PM 27 SEC

AL 22.28.58 5:28:58 PM 16

BC 22.33.27 5:33:27 21

AL 22.34.15 5:34:15 2

 

[arkansasmimi]

if anyone sees an error please let me know so I can fix my hard copy, thanks in advance

 

[KayKay.85]

I haven't looked at the Textme print out yet, but curious if any call/s were made directly to Beverly's office. (501) 944-1559
Of course we won't have all the pieces to the phone call puzzles until we see the subpoenaed ATT and Google Investigative reports that are listed as subpoenaed online at court connect website. Plus, who knows if we will ever see Crystal's phone records. Having said that; the textme records have given plenty of valuable information.
I still would bet ol' shady AL had more than one free texting/calling app on his phone or multiple accounts with Textme.


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[KyGirl859]

I haven't looked at the Textme print out yet, but curious if any call/s were made directly to Beverly's office. (501) 944-1559
Of course we won't have all the pieces to the phone call puzzles until we see the subpoenaed ATT and Google Investigative reports that are listed as subpoenaed online at court connect website. Plus, who knows if we will ever see Crystal's phone records. Having said that; the textme records have given plenty of valuable information.
I still would bet ol' shady AL had more than one free texting/calling app on his phone or multiple accounts with Textme.


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Whose phone was through ATT?

 

[KayKay.85]

Whose phone was through ATT?

I'm not sure if it was Beverly's phone and/or AL and CL'S cell provider. Possibly could've been both?

Just curious because we've been told all along that this was a referral to Beverly. I somewhat doubt it being a random referral but it could have been. Odd...if a referal it looks like they would've contacted the Crye-Leike office, not Beverly's cell.

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[arkansasmimi]

I haven't looked at the Textme print out yet, but curious if any call/s were made directly to Beverly's office. (501) 944-1559
Of course we won't have all the pieces to the phone call puzzles until we see the subpoenaed ATT and Google Investigative reports that are listed as subpoenaed online at court connect website. Plus, who knows if we will ever see Crystal's phone records. Having said that; the textme records have given plenty of valuable information.
I still would bet ol' shady AL had more than one free texting/calling app on his phone or multiple accounts with Textme.


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501-944-1559 is Beverly Cell phone number not the number to Crye Leike office

From mental exam report:
2. Investigators conducted an exigent circumstances ping through AT&T for Beverly
Carter's cell phone number of 501-944-1559. Investigators reviewed the data and
determined that Beverly Carter's cell phone pinged twice in the area north of Steel Bend
Road and south of Smarty Jones Drive at 1822 hours.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Whose phone was through ATT?

From the Forensic Report (mental eval) page 8 #2 we are told Beverly phone was ATT, unsure personally who CL had her plan thru, the phone she used and AL used were both under CL name.

2. Investigators conducted an exigent circumstances ping through AT&T for Beverly
Carter's cell phone number of 501-944-1559. Investigators reviewed the data and
determined that Beverly Carter's cell phone plnged twice in the area north of Steel Bend
Road and south of Smarty Jones Drive at1822 hours. http://media.arkansasonline.com/news/documents/2015/02/26/CK_Image.pdf

 

[arkansasmimi]

:thinking: HUH??? just noticed this

According to the Forensic Report, it says

3. On September 27,2014,Investigators determined through Beverly Carter's phone
records that she placed a phone call at approximately 1558 hours to phone number 914-
206-1776 for approximately fifteen minutes and forly five seconds. http://media.arkansasonline.com/news/documents/2015/02/26/CK_Image.pdf

But on the records that we have, pg 17, OUTBOUND CALLS https://contexte.aoc.arkansas.gov/i...resent2?DMS_ID=3VFP7KFOF33WKV4DXI6EE4FPYMU38V
FROM
19142061776 (Textme # attached to phone used by AL 501-687-3833)
TO
15019441559 (BC cell phone)

call duration 944 seconds (15 min 44 seconds) Sept 25, 2014 8:58 (UTC time) actual time 3:58pm

Military time of 15:58 is 3:58 pm. so according to the Textme report, AL called BC not BC calling AL, Correct??

 

[jstkiddn]

:thinking: HUH??? just noticed this

According to the Forensic Report, it says

3. On September 27,2014,Investigators determined through Beverly Carter's phone
records that she placed a phone call at approximately 1558 hours to phone number 914-
206-1776 for approximately fifteen minutes and forly five seconds. http://media.arkansasonline.com/news/documents/2015/02/26/CK_Image.pdf

But on the records that we have, pg 17, OUTBOUND CALLS https://contexte.aoc.arkansas.gov/i...resent2?DMS_ID=3VFP7KFOF33WKV4DXI6EE4FPYMU38V
FROM
19142061776 (Textme # attached to phone used by AL 501-687-3833)
TO
15019441559 (BC cell phone)

call duration 944 seconds (15 min 44 seconds) Sept 25, 2014 8:58 (UTC time) actual time 3:58pm

Military time of 15:58 is 3:58 pm. so according to the Textme report, AL called BC not BC calling AL, Correct??

Right....phone records show AL called BC. I think the doctor had it backwards in the mental eval.

 

[mpnola]

Right....phone records show AL called BC. I think the doctor had it backwards in the mental eval.

Yeah, I suspect they were focusing on the person she communicated with, the length and proximity of the phone call to her disappearance than they were about who called whom. Just a guess

 

[jstkiddn]

Yeah, I suspect they were focusing on the person she communicated with, the length and proximity of the phone call to her disappearance than they were about who called whom. Just a guess

Well, and this was from a person doing a mental exam. This person wasn't investigating a murder case....they were determining the mental status of the accused. I can see how that detail could have been confused and at the end of the day it had no bearing on the results of the evaluation.