Mee Bee did you know about this (I just found out):
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...o-be-retried-for-meredith-kercher-murder?lite
Yes, see my post above. That's ridiculous. Can the girl just be left alone?
Mee Bee did you know about this (I just found out):
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...o-be-retried-for-meredith-kercher-murder?lite
I get the same way. There are websites where they believe in her total innocence, and when I read there, I am convinced she is innocent.A couple of books I've read on the case make me flip flop. I'm like eh innocent then no guilty. I'm honestly confused, but Raffeale is innocent. I'm leaning towards innocent, but there are so many books and I haven't read all of them. I do believe she was treated unfairly and I do see that JA copied her behavior on the interrogation room- head stands and oddities to claim stress. Hell, the intruders sounds like Kircher's murder. And both were sexually charged crimes. With money stolen, I think or involved. She would have heard of the case because Knox is from Seattle where Jodi supposedly traveled - she resided in North Cali. The murder happened in 2007 which was one year before Travis was killed. She was stabbed in the throat. With all the controversy of Americans protesting the charges and abuse by the Italian police, I'm sure that got the wheels turning. She probably didn't count on it being filmed, which is why I think the judge didn't allow it yet. It's a waste of time and possible bs. She's doing anything to not take responsibility.
Meebee: tried to respond to your exact quote of always fearing ASPD. ASPD is a disorder that should not always to be shunned. Some are capable of close relationships with small groups of family and friends. Though their emotional traits are not wired like others does not make them unworthy of compassion. There are those extremely dangerous and should be removed from society. However, there are many people we encounter that lie, steal, rape, murder, manipulate and control that don't have a personality disorder. If people automatically fear and shun those with ASPD. Would those asking for treatment while living with a personality disorders stop for fear of society labeling them. Lumping people into groups because of a disability or illness is unethical. Everyone deserves a chance to participate in society unless their acts find them devoid of rehabilitation. Giving my compassion to others is how I would hope to be treated if I was on the other side.
Especially if he was wrapped in sheets and she had, say, knotted part of it to act like a "handle".
OMG, what a horrible experience, am so glad it worked out alright. Wow :what:i had a frightening experience last month.
a neighbor/friend was sick with a bladder infection and a cold.
she is my age--we are both over 50. i am tall and thin
and physically fit. she is not and she must weight 200 pounds.
so i went over to her home to help her. i brought her some soup.she had the soup and said she was cold.
why not take a hot bath i asked. she wanted to do that so i ran the tub for her and after she got in i kept checking on
her asking if she was ready to get out. i wanted to be able to help
her as she was weak. she kept saying no she wasn't warm enough yet.
after 25 min i insisted she get out. she just stayed in the tub - she wasn't trying to get out and she began talking nonsense. she was delusional.
she kept saying " i can't play the piano part" and i have to tell jerry i can't
play the part".
i kept saying it's ok you can play the piano part later. but i was really frightened.
i thought maybe she had had a stroke. i said come on let's get out of the tub but it was not good--she could not get out of the tub even with me trying to help her. i could not lift her up by myself ! i tried!
and i know i am an older person but i am strong and for for my age. i was afraid to let go of her to go get the phone and call 911.
christ -what to do- ? i let the water drain out. then with one hand i grabbed a big towel nearby and i wrapped this big towel
around her and told her to hold on to the grab bar in the tub. i got the phone--called my sis-in-law who
lives around the corner and luckily she was home and came right over and between the 2 of us we got my friend out of the tub,
dried off and into bed. she fell asleep and we let her sleep for about a half hour then woke her up. fortunately she was making sense again. extreme exhaustion combined with illness and too long a time in a hot bath can affect people over age 50 in adverse ways!
so this is how i know that is is hard to get a person weighing 200 pounds UP and move them somewhere else. i am 5'8" and I weigh 118 pounds.
I think you should learn a little more about ASPD. You don't know what they are like. Your compassion is completely misplaced. I am a deeply compassionate person, but not for sociopaths. They are the evil that lives among us. I am completely against lumping people together. But sociopaths are a completely different animal. Their brains are not wired correctly. There's no curing them. There's no understanding them. Your way of thinking is what turns people into tools and victims of sociopaths. It's what got Travis Alexander killed. Learn what they are so it never happens to you. They are devoid of the ability to feel compassion. That is the very definition of ASPD. That's what it is. There are varying degrees, but the way psychologists define whether the person in front of them is a sociopath is whether or not they have the capability to feel empathy/compassion. If they don't, they are a sociopath. ASPD is another word for sociopath. They don't WANT treatment. They don't WANT help. They like the way they are. I explained this.
I DO agree that there are people like this: I have one in my family and another was a man I got involved with. All you say here is true: They are cold as ice to the core.I think you should learn a little more about ASPD. You don't know what they are like. Your compassion is completely misplaced. I am a deeply compassionate person, but not for sociopaths. They are the evil that lives among us. I am completely against lumping people together. But sociopaths are a completely different animal. Their brains are not wired correctly. There's no curing them. There's no understanding them. Your way of thinking is what turns people into tools and victims of sociopaths. It's what got Travis Alexander killed. Learn what they are so it never happens to you. They are devoid of the ability to feel compassion. That is the very definition of ASPD. That's what it is. There are varying degrees, but the way psychologists define whether the person in front of them is a sociopath is whether or not they have the capability to feel empathy/compassion. If they don't, they are a sociopath. ASPD is another word for sociopath. They don't WANT treatment. They don't WANT help. They like the way they are. I explained this.
I DO agree that there are people like this: I have one in my family and another was a man I got involved with. All you say here is true: They are cold as ice to the core.
I do however harbor a real FEAR of labeling because I am afraid someone will get labeled with ASPD who does not really have it (a therapist tried to say that my son, who has Aspberger Syndrome, "does not have emotions". He has always, always been kind, empathetic, caring, giving: Moreso than many so-called "neuro typicals" in my family.
But because she had been schooled to believe that neuro-atypicals have no emotions - etc. It harmed him immeasurably to have her as a therapist. Just trying to explain my fear of labels.)
I grew up with one so that is my education and yes I can give compassion to those that may not understand or reciprocate compassion. My understanding is that not every ASPD is a psychopath/ sociopath but every psychopath/sociopath has ASPD. But then I am not as enlightened with knowledge as you .
Yes. You are the kind of person with astute powers of insight and I believe likely would not easily slap a label on someone unless you saw a whole constellation of traits. ( If Jodi is anything like a certain family member of mine, then yes, I would grant that she is probably pure cunning with a human mask : A pretense behind which a shrewd ego hides. )Well, I would never label someone I didn't know a lot about. I am labeling Jodi because she shows text book signs of a sociopath. Now, not having emotions is not the only sign of sociopathy. So when I say that, I am not saying anyone who doesn't show emotions is a sociopath. Quite the contrary, sociopaths do show emotions, inappropriately, they just don't really have them. I would never ever look at someone with Autism or Aspergers and think sociopath. It just does not even match.
There was a boy in our neighborhood in Montreal. I could tell he had Autism. But when I told my MIL and husband they just laughed at me and told me I was imagining things. He was just too smart and bright and intelligent. I took the opportunity to try to educate them on Autism and explained that having Autism does not mean you are dumb or mentally retarded. Autistic people are often very intelligent and sweet. This boy is so much fun to talk to. Loe and behold, he does have Autism. I feel I often have a very good read on people (not to toot my own horn lol). My MIL still insists he was misdiagnosed and told him this. He didn't like that. He knows he is different and it offended him because he wears his diagnosis as a badge and feels people should accept him the way he is not the way they think he should be. He was very bright.
My dad's new wife is a sociopath. I hate her. They are life ruiners. That's why I began my many many hours of reading about them. I am not saying to not have compassion. Our ability to feel compassion can not just be turned off. That is why they prey on that ability. Sometimes I feel sorry for them that they will never feel love or empathy. Then I remind myself they don't care about my compassion for them and probably find it stupid and disgusting. They would just as sooner kill me as look at me. They feel superior in their lack of compassion. So I don't care anymore. Society at large should be warned about people like this.
Sorry to hear about your dad's wife. Hopefully he will see as you do and run.
I am Canadian too so :truce:
Yes, MeeBee I hope your Dad is becoming aware....Have you spoken with him about your suspicions about her?
I have, only once. He's very stubborn. I told him she was a cancer on the family and I was suspicious of her. I don't trust her. I am afraid for him and what might happen to him if he ever tries to leave her. Again, another reason why I am so passionate about awareness.