Maybe someone has more information about this, but I thought I read that if someone from the US is murdered elsewhere, the culprit can be tried in the US. I think I read this in connection with the guy from Alabama that murdered his new bride while scuba diving in Australia ... that is the reason he was being tried again in the US after serving time in Australia. If that's the case, wouldn't it be preferable for Aruba to send this guy on his way home and let the FBI and the US look after any prosecution rather than take the chance of being highly criticised if they don't solve this in short order? I'm just thinking about what Nancy Grace will be saying in a week if this isn't wrapped up with a neat bow in no time.
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This is a 35 year old woman with major tats, she is NOT going to fall for a line like that.
No, he was charged in Alabama because the supposed plot was allegedly hatched there even though she died in Australia. So they claimed jursidiction.
I see. Thanks. So this has to be resolved in Aruba because it's not possible, at this time, to prove that a plan was hatched in the US.
I suppose the one person that knows how to make a person disappear forever from Aruba is sitting in a Peruvian jail ... but I bet Joran van der Sloot would have some suggestions about where to find Robyn.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...-kind-nature/2011/08/11/gIQA8MyN8I_story.html
She was recently laid off from a dentist’s office in the Washington area where she had worked scheduling patients, Forester said. She had also done some modeling, he said.
She was recently laid off from a dentist’s office in the Washington area where she had worked scheduling patients, Forester said. She had also done some modeling, he said.
That depends, if it was something planned, that originated in the US, then he could still get charged in the state it all started in. If it was something that happened on the spur of the moment then Aruba would get it.
I don't think it is that hard to dissappear at the sea in places like that. Aruba is a small island, once you get swept out to sea the chances of your body getting washed up again are pretty remote. It would just go out to sea and the sharks would get it somewhere out in the Carribean.
From the sounds of it, she wouldn't have gone snorkeling at that time in that location, so it's more likely that something happened first and then she was put into the water. Still, that seems like something that had to be done in the dark of night, yet we've heard that she was seen in the dive shop cafe shortly before 6 ... I think that's what I heard on NG last night. At 6:30 he reported that she was missing while snorkeling. If she didn't disappear while snorkeling in that window of time, where did she go?
Anything is possible, but I don't think there are many 50 year old men who are interested in taking young women on innocent "friends" type vacations.
That's just it ... the way NG was presenting it on her show yesterday was that Robyn, who had a boyfriend of 2+ years, was doing nothing wrong by accepting a free vacation in Aruba with this friend of hers that she met a year earlier on a dating website. I think NG should have been a little more above board and stated that any woman that thinks a 50 year old man is offering a free vacation with no strings attached is not thinking clearly.
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Here's one of the NG transcripts, to review some of the info.
I bolded the below sentence because I've been wondering about this all day.
http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/10/ng.01.html
WOODROW TRIPP, FMR. POLICE COMMANDER
TRIPP: And that`s what I would be looking at. I would want to see, when did they leave? Did they leave together? Did he come back by himself? What exactly went on with that? It is obvious that he invited her there. And with that being the case, then he set this up.
My next question is, who else, who else is he associated with there? You know how did this trip come about? There are a lot of questions there that have not been answered, but it is obvious apparently to all of us other than the Aruban police is that she wasn`t swept out to sea.
I bolded the below sentence because I've been wondering about this all day.
http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/10/ng.01.html
WOODROW TRIPP, FMR. POLICE COMMANDER
TRIPP: And that`s what I would be looking at. I would want to see, when did they leave? Did they leave together? Did he come back by himself? What exactly went on with that? It is obvious that he invited her there. And with that being the case, then he set this up.
My next question is, who else, who else is he associated with there? You know how did this trip come about? There are a lot of questions there that have not been answered, but it is obvious apparently to all of us other than the Aruban police is that she wasn`t swept out to sea.
In the linked article, it says that she was supposed to go on a cruise with him, but backed out at the last minute to go to New York with her roommate. When she told her roommate that she was going to Aruba, the roommate thought it was a great idea until she heard that Robyn was going with GVG.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-aruba-friend-suspect-harmful-aggressive-texts/story?id=14279819
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Here's something else that I'm wondering about. Did GVG talk to any of the women he was involved with about being a photographer? We know one interest he had (I bolded the sentence below).
http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/10/ng.01.html
ELLIE JOSTAD, EDITORIAL PRODUCER, THE NANCY GRACE SHOW: Right, Nancy. As you mentioned, he has had two different women, one and ex-girlfriend, one and ex-wife, requests what they call peace orders in Maryland, eventually a protective order. The girlfriend, and this was just filed last year, Nancy, she says that he threatened to terminate her. He also told her that the world would be a better place without her in it and that he could help with that.
But even more disturbing, Nancy, she claims in court documents that he was under investigation for multiple acts of stalking and threatening women. She claims as well that he was taking, without her knowledge, pornographic images of her and posting them online.
http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/10/ng.01.html
ELLIE JOSTAD, EDITORIAL PRODUCER, THE NANCY GRACE SHOW: Right, Nancy. As you mentioned, he has had two different women, one and ex-girlfriend, one and ex-wife, requests what they call peace orders in Maryland, eventually a protective order. The girlfriend, and this was just filed last year, Nancy, she says that he threatened to terminate her. He also told her that the world would be a better place without her in it and that he could help with that.
But even more disturbing, Nancy, she claims in court documents that he was under investigation for multiple acts of stalking and threatening women. She claims as well that he was taking, without her knowledge, pornographic images of her and posting them online.
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I am watching DR. Drew .
The police have been called twice this year to the boyfriends home because of their fighting when 'she' is drinking
I doubt she was drinking alone so that kind of irked me but okay .
He acted like a first there was only 1 call in Feb and then when pushed he remembered the July call
Come on that was last month!
Just adding this . I hope they find her . I do wonder if her and the man arrested could have had an alcohol fueled fight and he likes to hit girls so...
The police have been called twice this year to the boyfriends home because of their fighting when 'she' is drinking
I doubt she was drinking alone so that kind of irked me but okay .
He acted like a first there was only 1 call in Feb and then when pushed he remembered the July call
Come on that was last month!
Just adding this . I hope they find her . I do wonder if her and the man arrested could have had an alcohol fueled fight and he likes to hit girls so...
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or lie and tell the boyfriend GG was gay after admitting she almost went on a cruise with him??
There is a story behind this "story"
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Dr Drew said to check out a new guys medicine cabinet! hmmm-:innocent:
I dunno... the boyfriend she was living with seems controlling to me.
sounds like she might have been between a rock and a hard place maybe?
If she had alcohol fueled disputes with her boyfriend, there's a good chance that things go south when she's drinking. I wonder if that's where the "this sucks" comment came from, and whether the text sent from her phone was actually GVG using her cell phone at 3 on the afternoon of Aug 2.
This was dated Aug 2, perhaps after he reported her missing. Is he holding a mask?
http://www.24ora.com/cache/multithu...s.news.2011.augustus.aug02.perdi.P8020145.JPG
Robyn is a victim and she needs to be found, but NG should have taken this opportunity to discuss the dangers that were obvious in accepting a free vacation from anyone, and especially someone from an online pickup joint.
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Dr Drew and the Joy Behar show kept reiterating about the dangers of on line dating etc.
The BF said he knew everything about her and she knew everything about him.
The guys head has been in the sand and sadly, he is going to get a rude awakening when this all unfolds.
First he thought that she was going to Orlando to visit family, then she said the family surprised her with a trip to Aruba, she also said that GVG was her gay friend ... that's a lot of information where he was out of the loop in terms of knowing her.
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