Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023 #6 *Arrest*

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Charlot123 said:
I don't think it is financial. JMO. If EP was not religious, and her in-laws were religious to the degree that it consumed their whole life, I can imagine a huge reason for a rift there. Remember, they shared the time, so it was about the way her kids might be raised.
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JMO but it could def be financial. To know that the man you're divorcing is going to get half the family inheritance when she'd previously described him as lazy and disinterested. All the property development she did etc, to lose that to a man you possibly despise... hard IMO. JMO
 
MsMarple said:
That’s the exact same link I posted upthread.

While Mr Patterson was on holiday in South Africa in January 2017, he made the comments about his 'favourite sayings' on Instagram next to a photograph of a leopard devouring a water buffalo in the famous Kruger National Park.

However, he also posted the disclaimer: 'There is a time and place for that, and a safari in Africa is not one of them! The few rules in game parks were each created because someone died, and so my best advice is: Don’t die!'

Mr Patterson, who worked as a photographer for the local newsletter the Burra Flyer edited by his parents and ex wife, published an accompanying article on wildlife photography for the site @fstoplounge.
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He apologised about the quality of the image of the leopard - which he captioned 'If looks could kill! This leopard looked more than a little annoyed at me disturbing his dinner time' - remarking that it was 'my first ever Instagram post'.
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In the article, Mr Patterson provides 'tips for amateur photographers who want to make the most of their up-coming safari holiday' about having patience, using the light, and the right equipment.

In several articles for the publication, Mr Patterson is described as 'an enthusiastic photographer who also likes discovering the truth about things' who loves 'hiking and camping in the wilderness and ... aims to create images that affect people emotionally.
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There’s also a screenshot of his post.

Where did it say he shot a lion? Kruger National Park prohibits hunting. Are you saying he illegally shot a lion and posted a photo of it somewhere else?

Respectfully it makes no sense. Everything points to Simon photographing wild animals. He’s an avid photographer not a wild game hunter.
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One consideration. Hunting safari, which is essentially, trophy hunting, costs a lot. Each time I read about someone killing an animal at African safari, it would be either a dentist, or an owner of a huge enterprise, or a celebrity. I am not quite sure that killing of endangered animals is as well regulated as African politicians state, strictly MOO, but a lot of money needs to change hands for trophy hunting. Photo safari, on the other hand, became so popular that people merely call it "a safari". While not a cheap trip, it is not remotely comparable to a hunting safari. JMO.
 
*paywalled for me:

What police dogs uncovered at mushroom murder accused’s house​

New details have emerged of what Australian Federal Police technology detector dogs Georgia and Alma found during their search of Erin Patterson’s Leongatha home.
 
What did Tech-Detector Dogs Find? A New Development?
imstilla.grandma said:
*paywalled for me:

What police dogs uncovered at mushroom murder accused’s house​

New details have emerged of what Australian Federal Police technology detector dogs Georgia and Alma found during their search of Erin Patterson’s Leongatha home.
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@imstilla.grandma
PAYWALLED for me too, in US. I'd like to know.
I don't see a date. Is this NEW-ish story or a retread?

IIRC, months back, MSM reported that dogs found tech items in unusual places at the property, giving impression (imo) that person (EP?) who placed them was trying to HIDE them. Again, IIRC.
 
Article seems pretty fresh. Was actually written in the future according to this source.

“Technology Detector Dog Georgia found one USB stick, a micro-secured digital card and a SIM card,” AFP Commissioner Reece Kershaw told a Senate estimates hearing on Tuesday evening."
 
Travelling by Tardis?
dm799 said:
Article seems pretty fresh. Was actually written in the future according to this source.
“Technology Detector Dog Georgia found one USB stick, a micro-secured digital card and a SIM card,” AFP Commissioner Reece Kershaw told a Senate estimates hearing on Tuesday evening."
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@dm799 Thanks for this link & quote.
IIUC, the comment about "written in the future,"for which there may be a couple explanations.
1- Maybe reporter TIME TRAVELLED in Dr. Who's Tardis ;) LOL, or
2 - If reporter is in an OZ time, simply marking story as Feb 14, 2024, US readers (like some of us) did not calculate the difference in TIME ZONES, btwn ours and OZ.
If I'm using a time zone converter properly, there's Melbourne is 18 HOUR AHEAD of my US time zone.

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Headline & intro to story. Now shows Feb 14 as date.
"What police dogs discovered at the home of the mushroom murder accused
"POSTED ON FEBRUARY 14, 2024 BY LAJIN VARTIA
"Erin Patterson has appeared in court after being charged with three counts of murder and five counts of attempted murder over a deadly mushroom lunch. Here’s what happens next. The court has given police 20 weeks to continue investigating the deaths, which will include examining evidence collected from Patterson’s home, such as computers and hard drives."
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What police dogs discovered at the home of the mushroom murder accused

New details have emerged about what Australian Federal Police technological sniffer dogs Georgia and Alma found during their search of Erin Patterson's home
sprescoorinews.biz.id
 
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JBowie said:
Quite a stash, and not a good look if they were secreted in the bush.
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Oh my God. What the actual heck.

SusanDonim said:
“Technology Detector Dog Alma found a mobile phone, five iPads, a trail camera, and secure digital card and a smart watch. “These were not found during initial searches undertaken by officers.”

What was that woman doing with all of those devices?

I bet some of them were on plans or had SIM cards registered in her name, and the Telco providers may have indicated that she had more devices than what she originally provided to police?

All imo
 
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investikater said:
How many kids are there? Did the kids all have their own ipad, plus she had one, plus he had one, plus maybe there's an old broken one or two that's been replaced?
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IMO: More troubling than the iPads is the secure card and the mobile phone. Whose phone was it? If it belonged to the kids, surely police would have no right to seize it?

I’ve prepared some questions that I’m going over in my own mind because I’m really shocked by this find:

1. Why didn’t Erin turn them over the first time the police asked for devices? Could she not remember that she had them if and when police first asked her to hand over her devices and files?

2. Where were they found???? In the ground? In the shed?

3. Why did it take specialist trained police dog to find them?

4. Were they concealed or just misplaced?

When I think about the location and seizure of these devices by law enforcement, I start to remember the “pink lunchbox” concealment situation of the infamous Ben Roberts-Smith.

The information below is something I thought I’d share, because I can see a glimmer of a parallel with the Leongatha mushroom case in terms of the potential concealment of devices (not that I’m saying concealing devices is a crime!) but that sometimes devices can have incriminating information, files or footage on them.

“Accused war criminal Ben Roberts-Smith kept more than a dozen Department of Defence drone videos of Afghanistan military operations buried in his backyard, including videos watermarked as “secret” and only to be shared among certain NATO forces.

The files buried by the former Special Air Service Regiment soldier in a pink, child’s lunchbox include 13 videos of drone vision taken by the NATO military forces in Afghanistan as well as copies of classified operational reports from an SAS mission in Southern Afghanistan.”

Ben Roberts-Smith buried Department of Defence videos inside lunchbox in Sunshine Coast backyard

All IMO

Erin Patterson’s cases are Sub Judice, and Ms. Patterson is presumed to be innocent of all charges until found guilty.


Now for the big question: What’s on those devices seized from Erin Patterson’s property?
 
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Ellery84 said:
“Accused war criminal Ben Roberts-Smith kept more than a dozen Department of Defence drone videos of Afghanistan military operations buried in his backyard, including videos watermarked as “secret” and only to be shared among certain NATO forces.
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Why?
 
Saw that there were new posts in this case and came to have a look.
My goodness !
Concealing anything from LE is not a good look, and not going to be very helpful to your cause ? Imo.
It seems that LE are not focused anywhere else, except the same source from the start of the investigation.
Omo.
 
“Technology detector dog Georgia found one USB, a micro secure digital card and a sim card,” he told the hearing. “Technology detector dog Alma found a mobile phone, five iPads, a trail camera and secure digital card and a smartwatch.”

Kershaw said the items were not found during the officers’ initial searches.

She appeared at the Latrobe Valley magistrates court, in Victoria’s south-east, in November. During the hearing, police sought a 20-week adjournment to analyse computer equipment seized at the Leongatha home.
www.theguardian.com

Alleged mushroom poisoning: five iPads and other devices sniffed out by police dogs at Erin Patterson’s Leongatha home

Australian federal police tell Senate estimates that the electronics were not found during initial searches
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
Reading the so called latest is like deja vu.
It was news about the finding of the said to be "hidden" devices months ago.

I remember posting at the time that what was considered hiding may just have been storing them.
in a random drawer or packed away somewhere.

Re a device found in a bush. It coud have ended up there by one of kids or the dog playing with it.

Surely no adult human would think that was a good place to hide something from the police.
That would be a good place if you wanted to make sure it was found. In my opinion.

Also the surprise at having 5 Ipads. Many families would have that many or more. These kind of items are used for what seems not that long, before the new model comes out.

Not everyone gets rid of their old device. I have all of my old mobile phones, a stack of them.
Numerous other devices. Heaps of laptops, many still working.

Gone are the days when only one person in the house had a device like a computer, or one phone in the house.
 
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