Yeah, cheers! Just seen your first post. Trying to find a map of Kholo Creek
i've looked on google maps but its so overgrown that you cant see anything beyond where it joins into the brisbane river
Yeah, cheers! Just seen your first post. Trying to find a map of Kholo Creek
My thinking is, if he did not do it, but helped with cover-up, he is as guilty as the person who did it and deserves the full force of the law. But, IMO, the other woman (if any) has nothing to do with it, except now provide info to assist police. If there is an accomplice, it would be someone in his family iMO.
But not for me.
These are a few points that either don't add up for me or are in the 'alternative theory' basket (as opposed to IMO).
If G & A were in fact separated, is it possible that G didn't stay at the 'marital' home that night? He was, perhaps, there in the evening and again in the AM when he dropped the girls to school but at his parents/elsewhere to sleep. He may have regularly had the girls overnight if they were living in different homes.
This rolls on to my next point.
Why did he call 000 as opposed to the local police number? Unless of course he went to the house because Allison's car was still there when she should have left already and he found signs of a struggle? The 000 call has really bothered me; surely it would make more sense to call a station. But then why did police respond so quickly to the call, for all intents and purposes a missing person call, unless there was a history of violence as discussed previously.
Alt. theory: Bad business dealings/ bad blood from a realationship one or both were involved with, person comes over after G has left, nasty situation ensues, the white 4x4 is used by unkown person/people to move Allison's body, G comes back to the house to find disarray, calls police etc and is now acting as a foil for the investigators?
I haven't been overly specific with details or referenced some of my points which I know have been suggested before, but it is possible the WhoDunnit is not so cut and dried.
Do I duck now?? I love the humorous and tounge in cheek style of some members BTW. Lol
I don't expect the police to take kindly to any accomplice either and even more than usual with all those man hours and tax payer dollars spent looking for her when they'd have known where she was all along.
If GBC did it and the mistress wasn't present then i'd agree, if you wanted to go to someone for help you would expect your parents to be the most likely to protect you.
I believe he does.
And, if you look at that clip again, you can see how almost as soon as he has said that, he does that smacking thing with his lips, almost a "tsk" which indicates to me an "Oops, didn't mean to say that" moment.
Very true! Lawyers are doing a job, the same as the police. People condemn in particular defence lawyers, I don't (and am not involved in law). I agree that in the heat of a moment, someone can unintentionally kill someone, which is what I personally believe happened in this case. Police are being praised for the way they have handled this case, however there are many other cases when the mob have criticised police. Human nature.
Because there has been no *verification* by the police about times/dates of calls/anything much etc...there could always be the possibility that ABC gave the children early dinner then the husband took the children to his parents for a prearranged sleep over as they both had an early start...she said she was going for a walk whilst he was away..hence his knowing the clothes she wore even through the girls...he stayed talking for a while and when he came back she had not come home...he could have thought she had called in to see neighbours etc maybe called a friend to visit..we do not know when or who he called in what time frame...he could have been calling people all night for all we know...when she didn't return for the conference that is possibly when the police decided to act instantly...Her Mother only said he told them she went for a walk and did not return...times were not mentioned I don't think...
Maybe far fetched but I feel a possiblity as no definite details of these times have ever been confirmed by the police...
... but he said he saw her last at 10 pm watching the Footy Show, at which point he went to bed ....
Could you elaborate in detail how this would happen - i mean step by step, an example of an actual killing? And why you would describe it as 'unintentional'? I was trying to point out in my recent post about this that there is a knowledge at the time that you are actually killing someone, you can either see clearly that you are, you continue actions until you have, or you are performing extremely violent actions that would reasonably be known to result in killing someone (such as bludgeoning them) and you can decide to stop. Unless you bash someone and stop while they are still conscious and then they die later, you have intentionally murdered them. (even if the intentions only arose in a short space of time).
But then, I don't agree that the rage takes over and therefore the person is excused in some way. There is a choice to control the rage at any point, or decide not to act it out it at all.
Just so you know, i am not trying to be sarcastic and am not angry right now, I am really trying to examine this issue. I've asked for a step by step example because I think that generalising can make it easier to make those kind of statements but when you break it down it becomes a bit harder to see how it could happen 'unintentionally' and say there was no choice at all. Well IMO, anyway.
I think this is relevant because at some point, hopefully, there will be an arrest and there is the possibility that this very issue will arise. I actually think in this case the police are trying to be as meticulous as possible to get as much evidence and hard facts and ensure every little detail is covered before they make a move, because they believe it is murder and they want to do all they can to have the case proceed as murder and be successful.
But was this verified by the police or was it just in the media? If so I apologize for being so wrong...
I won't put a stop by step example because there could be many scenarios, but I admit the word "unintentional" was not what I meant (sorry, English is not my first language). I meant "not planned in advance". I don't think, if the husband killed her, that he walked into the room thinking: I'm going to kill you now!!
I think it evolved from an argument into a physical fight and rage took over. If, strangulation was the COD, then I still believe it evolved from an argument and it was not pre-planned.
... but he said he saw her last at 10 pm watching the Footy Show, at which point he went to bed ....
.theory that ABC caught GBC with Lady friend at Scout Hall
Because there has been no *verification* by the police about times/dates of calls/anything much etc...there could always be the possibility that ABC gave the children early dinner then the husband took the children to his parents for a prearranged sleep over as they both had an early start...she said she was going for a walk whilst he was away..hence his knowing the clothes she wore even through the girls...he stayed talking for a while and when he came back she had not come home...he could have thought she had called in to see neighbours etc maybe called a friend to visit..we do not know when or who he called in what time frame...he could have been calling people all night for all we know...when she didn't return for the conference that is possibly when the police decided to act instantly...Her Mother only said he told them she went for a walk and did not return...times were not mentioned I don't think...
Maybe far fetched but I feel a possiblity as no definite details of these times have ever been confirmed by the police...