Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #16 *Arrest*

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"In the circumstances, not only is the suppression order required to ensure a fair trial, it is required to protect the safety and well being of Sarah Ristevski and any potential real estate agents in connection with the property."The suppression order application will heard in the Magistrates Court on Wednesday. If successful it would prevent reporting on the committal, which is a hearing before a magistrate that tests the evidence of a case before it proceeds to the higher court - the Supreme Court - for trial or plea.
"If the case proceeded to trial in the Supreme Court, a suppression order made in a Magistrates Court would not apply."

https://www.theage.com.au/national/...-in-karen-ristevski-case-20180515-p4zfgk.html

Hope they don't get that suppression order. :gaah:
 
sleepinoz said:
"In the circumstances, not only is the suppression order required to ensure a fair trial, it is required to protect the safety and well being of Sarah Ristevski and any potential real estate agents in connection with the property."The suppression order application will heard in the Magistrates Court on Wednesday. If successful it would prevent reporting on the committal, which is a hearing before a magistrate that tests the evidence of a case before it proceeds to the higher court - the Supreme Court - for trial or plea.
"If the case proceeded to trial in the Supreme Court, a suppression order made in a Magistrates Court would not apply."

https://www.theage.com.au/national/...-in-karen-ristevski-case-20180515-p4zfgk.html

Hope they don't get that suppression order. :gaah:
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Surely not, why is this case any different to any other high profile cases???
 
drsleuth said:
Surely not, why is this case any different to any other high profile cases???
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Because Rob Stary says so. :rolleyes:

What a big baby. Doesn't like the fact that some of us may not like our taxpayer dollars defending abusive people (as if we get a choice!) Wants to limit our free speech. Wants to limit our knowledge of a court proceeding that we are paying for, in all aspects.

I guess it depends who his client is as to what he wants the public to know.
 
sleepinoz said:
Lawyers named both The Age and the Herald Sun stories that Mr Ristevski's legal representation was funded by taxpayers via legal aid as an example of reporting that was "deliberately toxic and designed to promote outcry in the community".They said a follow-up story by the Herald Sun asserting Mr Ristevski would receive income from the rent of the Avondale Heights home, which had been put up for listing, inaccurate. The property is in the estate of Ms Ristevski and funds derived from it will not flow to her husband, the lawyers said.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/...-in-karen-ristevski-case-20180515-p4zfgk.html
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Funds will not flow on to BR. Well there you go. He hasn't been found guilty of murder yet, so there must be another reason the funds will not flow on.
 
sosocurious said:
Funds will not flow on to BR. Well there you go. He hasn't been found guilty of murder yet, so there must be another reason the funds will not flow on.
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I wonder if he means that they will never flow on. Or that settlement of Karen's estate is pending the outcome of the trial.

Lawyer-speak, you know. It is never particularly clear. Just reflects what they want to say at that moment, and is technically correct, as they mount their defence for their client.
 
SouthAussie said:
I wonder if he means that they will never flow on. Or that settlement of Karen's estate is pending the outcome of the trial.

Lawyer-speak, you know. It is never particularly clear. Just reflects what they want to say at that moment, and is technically correct, as they mount their defence for their client.
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“Not only was the article inaccurate (the property is in the estate of Karen Ristevski and any funds derived from it will not be flowing to Mr Ristevski at this time) but it also caused significant difficulties for Sarah Ristevski who is a prosecution witness and the daughter of the accused.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...s/news-story/87a6c4fcbd1b3a7f32ef034a6185696d
Karen Ristevski murder: daughter Sarah to appear as prosecution witness
 
To be a witness for the prosecution does that mean she has to agree? Or can someone refuse?


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sleepinoz said:
"In the circumstances, not only is the suppression order required to ensure a fair trial, it is required to protect the safety and well being of Sarah Ristevski and any potential real estate agents in connection with the property."The suppression order application will heard in the Magistrates Court on Wednesday. If successful it would prevent reporting on the committal, which is a hearing before a magistrate that tests the evidence of a case before it proceeds to the higher court - the Supreme Court - for trial or plea.
"If the case proceeded to trial in the Supreme Court, a suppression order made in a Magistrates Court would not apply."

https://www.theage.com.au/national/...-in-karen-ristevski-case-20180515-p4zfgk.html

Hope they don't get that suppression order. :gaah:
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I'm with you Sleep.
 
Armchair snoop said:
Could this be a pressure tactic by the prosecution?
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Going by the article sounds like they have no idea what she will say .... favorable or unfavourable to their case....

So I'm guessing she's kept tight lipped all this time....

Should be interesting. ......
 
suspicious said:
To be a witness for the prosecution does that mean she has to agree? Or can someone refuse?


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I'm wondering the same thing. As I'm not entirely sure how the system works. Can someone be forced into being a witness or do they have to agree to give evidence?

Sorry if that's a stupid question
 
suspicious said:
To be a witness for the prosecution does that mean she has to agree? Or can someone refuse?


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She can be a hostile witness, that is when they sort of state that they are there under orders, not by choice, and they dont want to be there. But I dont believe she can refuse, if she has been subpoenaed.

They might not even require a lot from her. Just details about any argument that she may have seen or been a part of.
They might want to establish (for the jury) what time she left the house that morning and came home that night ... to show that Borce had plenty of time to do the deed, without her being aware of it.
And that may be all that they want from Sarah.

Or .. they could want a whole ton of stuff from her. Missing duvets, missing shoes, how dad was acting that night, did dad keep going for drives on his own, was there any special cleaning of the house/carpets/Karen's car that was evident, etc etc etc


BBM
A subpoena or witness summons is a writ issued by a government agency, most often a court, to compel testimony by a witness or production of evidence under a penalty for failure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subpoena
 
SouthAussie said:
She can be a hostile witness, that is when they sort of state that they are there under orders, not by choice, and they dont want to be there. But I dont believe she can refuse, if she has been subpoenaed.

They might not even require a lot from her. Just details about any argument that she may have seen or been a part of.
They might want to establish (for the jury) what time she left the house that morning and came home that night ... to show that Borce had plenty of time to do the deed, without her being aware of it.
And that may be all that they want from Sarah.

Or .. they could want a whole ton of stuff from her. Missing duvets, missing shoes, how dad was acting that night, did dad keep going for drives on his own, was there any special cleaning of the house/carpets evident, etc etc etc
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Thanks for clarifying that!!
Will be interesting to see what her role will be in all of this.
 
Armchair snoop said:
Could this be a pressure tactic by the prosecution?
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Well, they have this to say about her. BBM
(The article says that the only reason that the media know about this is that it was mentioned in the suppression application that Stary has put forth to the court.)


The daughter of alleged Melbourne wife killer Borce Ristevski has surfaced as a shock prosecution witness .......
The nature of her involvement as a prosecution witness was not outlined in the suppression order application.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...s/news-story/87a6c4fcbd1b3a7f32ef034a6185696d
 
sosocurious said:
“Not only was the article inaccurate (the property is in the estate of Karen Ristevski and any funds derived from it will not be flowing to Mr Ristevski at this time) but it also caused significant difficulties for Sarah Ristevski who is a prosecution witness and the daughter of the accused.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...s/news-story/87a6c4fcbd1b3a7f32ef034a6185696d
Karen Ristevski murder: daughter Sarah to appear as prosecution witness
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Looks like they are trying to use Sarah as a reason for their suppression request.


“Further to that, the real estate agent who listed the property has received a series of threats which were conveyed via realestate.com, none of which could be responded to because of the way in which those threats had been posted.

“In the circumstances, not only is the suppression order required to ensure a fair trial, it is required to protect the safety and well being of Sarah Ristevski and any potential real estate agents in connection with the property.’’
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/ne...s/news-story/87a6c4fcbd1b3a7f32ef034a6185696d
 
The daughter of mum Karen Ristevski will be a shock witness for the prosecution in the murder trial against her father, as it was revealed the autopsy report found her cause of death was 'inconclusive'.


Sarah will give evidence, as well as Mr Ristevski's son Anthony Richard, in a two week committal hearing starting July 16.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/2...ear-as-prosecution-witness?ocid=Social-9NewsM

This trial is going to be dirty if they are calling Ant :thinking:
 
Is the general public allowed to attend the two week long committal hearing in July?
 
sleepinoz said:
The daughter of mum Karen Ristevski will be a shock witness for the prosecution in the murder trial against her father, as it was revealed the autopsy report found her cause of death was 'inconclusive'.


Sarah will give evidence, as well as Mr Ristevski's son Anthony Richard, in a two week committal hearing starting July 16.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/2...ear-as-prosecution-witness?ocid=Social-9NewsM

This trial is going to be dirty if they are calling Ant :thinking:
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It will be a circus............:gaah:
 
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