Deceased/Not Found AUSTRALIA - Ms Lesley Trotter, 78, Homicide, Brisbane, 28 Mar 2023

[HinterlandObserver]

Ah, brilliant, thank you @TootsieFootsie . That was what seemed to make the most sense to me, rather than her being some sort of martinet going through people's rubbish and berating them. (Though, of course, those kinds of people do exist!)

Times are tight, especially for OAPs. The rebate on containers is helping people to keep fed. And, as I said, in my home situation, it's helping OTHERS get fed. The vouchers that our housemate gets from our containers go to buying, amongst other things, snack and lunch items for her kids who come to their school regularly without lunches.

MOO

I wonder how long return and earn has been running in qld?
Allegedly one previous neighbour said she’d been doing it 10 years ago didn’t she?

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I wonder how long return and earn has been running in qld?

2018 in Queensland

Container deposit legislation in Australia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Container deposit legislation (CDL), also known as a container deposit scheme (CDS), is a scheme that was first implemented in South Australia in 1977 and over the decades has spread to the Northern Territory in 2012, New South Wales in 2017, the Australian Capital Territory in June 2018, Queensland in November 2018 and Western Australia in October 2020. Schemes in the remaining states of Tasmania and Victoria are due to commence in 2023.[1][2]

Historical​

Through the early 20th century, when the cost of producing glass bottles was higher, a natural industry of glass bottle collectors and merchants performed a similar function to the modern CDL. Bottle accumulators, a licensed and unionized workforce commonly known as "bottle-ohs" from their street cries, travelled by cart around the streets buying empty bottles from households and businesses. They would then sell the bottles to a bottle yard, which would store and sort the bottles before selling them in bulk to brewers and other bottlers. It was an industry from which a bottle-oh could make a good living; in 1904, they could buy a dozen beer bottles for 6d., sell them to the bottle yard for 9d., who could sell them to brewers for 1s.[7] The commercial reuse of glass bottles and the bottle collecting industry had all but disappeared by the 1950s.[8]

Soft drink and other beverage bottles were still collected in Queensland and returned for deposits up to the late 1960s. In Western Australia soft drink bottles could be exchanged for 10 cents and beer bottles for 2 cents until around 1982.

 

[T-dawg420]

I’ll be really shocked if Lesley’s disappearance and death is related to recycling. Stranger things have happened though.

I wonder if perhaps she stumbled upon or saw something that she shouldn’t have. Such as a crime being committed by someone. Toowong has turned into an affluent suburb but it’s still got an element of what it used to be. Which was a young, university suburb (Uof Qld is close by) full of party people etc. People park their cars on Clayton Lane as well as outside their unit blocks, maybe someone was breaking into a car? And with the affluent uptake of the suburb it does make it a target for home invaders as well. The crime stats for the last quarter show a couple of unlawful entries around Clayton Lane. There are quite a few of those as well as drug offences in and around the Toowong area. Just a thought.

Edit to add if you notice the “50” crimes in the right of the pic that’s actually a shopping centre called Toowong Village. It also has Toowong train station underneath it. Just in case anyone was wondering

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Neighbours of missing Brisbane woman believed to be dead speak out

9now.nine.com.au

A week ago Trotter was listed as a missing person after her family reported her disappearance to police.

They found her unit had been left open but nothing had been stolen.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

DBM

 

[TootsieFootsie]

When I searched Google, the first two links that came up were ones saying that Lesley had been found dead.

I posted here right away. Then when I looked at the URL it was dodgy looking.
Luckily I hadn't clicked it.

So no more news yet.

 

[HinterlandObserver]

“Mrs Trotter would often go to wheelie bins out the front of her residence or the neighbouring properties and remove recycling trash from general waste bins and transfer those into the correct bins,” Det Supt Massingham said.

Recycling spat eyed in Qld senior’s suspected murder

An elderly Brisbane woman missing for 12 days from inner-city Brisbane might have died in a bitter neighbourhood dispute over recycling.

thenewdaily.com.au

Not return and earn then.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Not return and earn then.

Except that a neighbour interviewed on video said that some neighbours " kept things aside for Lesley so she could easily pick them from the recycling bin.

 

[Doesitmakesense]

Tragic update in search for Queensland woman after grim wheelie bin revelation

Family raised the alarm after the 78-year-old went missing from her Brisbane home.

7news.com.au

It sounds as though they have always had her body

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Poor Lesley

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Did she sort through the bins before they were put out on the verge ?

If she was put or fell into her own bin before it was put out or a perp put her into a bin and hid it, that's the only reason I can come up with.

All bins out for emptying would have been taken to tips.

Unless for some reason that bin was missed for collection.

Then there's the blood from the neighbouring bin area.

 

[HinterlandObserver]

Aha the Channel 7 video had a neighbour saying that some people kept items aside for Lesley so she could "easily pick them from the recycling bin.

To me that does sound like she was collecting them for the refund money

“Neighbours pointing out her habit of sorting through rubbish bins, something that could have led to her death.”

“There’s been some complaints made with respect to that activity”

There’s every possibility she was collecting return and earn and sorting people’s rubbish, but those two quotes do feel like there was definitely contention about it either way.

 

[SLouTh]

Police say there is "strong evidence" a missing 78-year-old woman's body was dumped in a wheelie bin in inner-city Brisbane.

Due to the positioning of the body, I can't rule out foul play at this stage," Detective Superintendent Andrew Massingham said.

Detective Superintendent Andrew Massingham said there are currently no suspects.

Police say 'strong evidence' missing 78-year-old Brisbane woman's body dumped in bin

Police are planning an "extensive search" of two dump sites to recover Lesley Trotter's body.

www.abc.net.au

 

[TootsieFootsie]

It will be interesting to know exactly when and where she was found.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

There’s every possibility she was collecting return and earn and sorting people’s rubbish, but those two quotes do feel like there was definitely contention about it either way.

I think she could have been doing both, collecting for the refund and caring about items being disposed of correctly.

 

[Triplethree333]

The police have said they have used forensics at a nearby apartment block aswell as hers and are sure she has been taken with the bins . I’d say they definitely have some footage or evidence and the perp will be done very soon

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Police say 'strong evidence' missing 78-year-old Brisbane woman's body dumped in bin

Police are planning an "extensive search" of two dump sites to recover Lesley Trotter's body.

www.abc.net.au

Posted 18m ago18 minutes ago, updated 2m ago

Police say there is "strong evidence" a missing 78-year-old woman's body was dumped in a wheelie bin in inner-city Brisbane.

Lesley Trotter, from Toowong, was reported missing on March 28.

Authorities are yet to find her body, but believe it was in a bin near her home that morning.

"Over that morning, that bin was collected by rubbish truck, which is consistent with rubbish in that area being removed each Tuesday," Detective Superintendent Andrew Massingham said.

He said the rubbish was then dropped into a pit at the Nudgee Waste Transfer Station, where 22 trucks also discarded rubbish.

It was then compressed and taken to dumps at Rochdale and Swanbank.

Both sites were quarantined over the weekend and officers are planning an "extensive search" to recover Ms Trotter's body, he said.
"Due to the positioning of the body, I can't rule out foul play at this stage," he said.

A crime scene has been set up at her Maryvale Street apartment.

Detective Superintendent Andrew Massingham said there are currently no suspects.

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The article is saying

"Over that morning, that bin was collected by rubbish truck, which is consistent with rubbish in that area being removed each Tuesday," Detective Superintendent Andrew Massingham said"

 

[TootsieFootsie]

There’s every possibility she was collecting return and earn and sorting people’s rubbish, but those two quotes do feel like there was definitely contention about it either way.

Yes it was rubbish being left outside the bins after sorting.

 

[Doesitmakesense]

It will be interesting to know exactly when and where she was found.

The article I posted said found on the 28th.

MO is possibly the garbage truck driver saw on the cams what was in the bin

 

[TootsieFootsie]

The article I posted said found on the 28th.

Yes thanks I had another read of it.

Strangely worded. They have "strong evidence" that a body was found on March 28.
How could they not be certain that a body was found ?

"Massingham on Tuesday said police have “strong evidence” a body, believed to be that of Trotter, was found in a general waste wheelie bin on Maryvale St near where she lives on March 28.

“It was evident at that time that the person we believe is Ms Trotter was deceased,” he said on Tuesday"


So was it found by the Garbos? And it's been kept quiet til now ?