Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #4

[marlywings]

A reminder thanks folks...

If you're going to state something as fact you will need to back that up with a relevant media or police report.

 

[SouthAussie]

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ether-warriena-movements-20140812-1038eg.html

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/10395080/Friends-defend-Tostee-over-murder-charge

Oh, and these ones actually mentioned names. Funny that.

Oh I see ... the media is spinning it when it doesn't line up with your way of thinking, but it is not spinning it when it gives Tostee's mates air time.

Of course Tostee's mates are going to stick up for him, well some of them will if they are still around in 2016, but as far as making credible character statements that will be taken into consideration by a higher court .... :waitasec:

 

[Jimmy Russel]

Oh I see ... the media is spinning it when it doesn't line up with your way of thinking, but it is not spinning it when it gives Tostee's mates air time.

Of course Tostee's mates are going to stick up for him, well some of them will, but as far as making credible character statements that will be taken into consideration by a court .... :waitasec:

The point is that most of the negative "reports" of Tostee were unnamed or heresay, while those backing him up WERE named and actually knew him. One of his mates even went on TV for him in that link you posted.

 

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BBM

"But ask around in the bars and clubs of the Gold Coast and you might hear a different story. 3rd Degree talked to a lot of bouncers and club managers about Tostee and his reputation, and he did have one – a bad one.

"Basically that he's a bit of a predator to the females," says club owner Simon King. "A lot of security obviously watched him pursuing women and obviously security were tipped off by those women. I remember hearing stories about him following females home."

In the middle of this year, security staff banned him from many of the bars and clubs in Surfers Paradise."

Video/Article: Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/tvshows/3rd-...hlights-tinder-risks-2014101520#ixzz3NIXMogK3

 

[SouthAussie]

I'll say it again, as if the media are going to publish girls' names ... with Tostee on the loose.

 

[Jimmy Russel]

Why is it that Tostee, with all the women he has met/dated, has never had any complaints or charges against him from females?

Why has nobody addressed this?

"A document filed in the bail application in the says an examination of Tostee's mobile phone 'has identified that he has been in contact with over 250 female persons using the Tinder application since March 2014'."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...na-Wright-fell-balcony-threaten-released.html

 

[Jimmy Russel]

Assault on an officer.

He was charged with obstruct, NOT assault. He is yet to be found guilty of that.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/qld/a/25551399/tostee-free-on-bail-but-cant-use-tinder/

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-...th-prosecutors-to-supply-key-evidence/5804418

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...urned-until-2015/story-fn3dxiwe-1227086344734

The charge is called "assault or obstruct police officer".

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/qld/consol_act/ppara2000365/s790.html

 

[sosocurious]

Why has nobody addressed this?

"A document filed in the bail application in the says an examination of Tostee's mobile phone 'has identified that he has been in contact with over 250 female persons using the Tinder application since March 2014'."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...na-Wright-fell-balcony-threaten-released.html

Address what??
Women Tostee met/dated, some he discussed on BBF were published in MSN and have been discussed during the threads.
Do you know for certain there have been no complaints or charges?
I have not been able to find a link that says that there has or hasn't.

 

[marlywings]

Why is it that Tostee, with all the women he has met/dated, has never had any complaints or charges against him from females?

..........that we are aware of to date.

Why has nobody addressed this?

"A document filed in the bail application in the says an examination of Tostee's mobile phone 'has identified that he has been in contact with over 250 female persons using the Tinder application since March 2014'."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...na-Wright-fell-balcony-threaten-released.html

I'm quite sure by now police will have a rather large ongoing file all about the self-proclaimed "superhero" and his online date hook-ups.

Because the case is now in sub-judice period, very little, if any, further evidence will be released until the Committal Hearing. OR the judge at the next hearing on 12th January, may allow the release of some evidence.

 

[Jimmy Russel]

Address what??
Women Tostee met/dated, some he discussed on BBF were published in MSN and have been discussed during the threads.
Do you know for certain there have been no complaints or charges?
I have not been able to find a link that says that there has or hasn't.

The media have brought up his existing charges and the police have seized his phone and even friends' phones. Why would the media comment if he hasn't had any complaints? He probably hasn't been charged with treason either, does that mean the media would tell us that he has never been charged with treason?

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ht-in-for-forensic-tests-20140813-103iuf.html

 

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BBM

"He was arrested and while he was being placed in the back seat of the police car kicked another officer and had to be sprayed with capsicum spray.

As a result he was charged with commit public nuisance and assault or obstructing a police officer."

http://www.news.com.au/national/gab...-warriena-wright/story-fncynjr2-1227057520144

 

[Jimmy Russel]

Because the case is now in sub-judice period, very little, if any, further evidence will be released until the Committal Hearing. OR the judge at the next hearing on 12th January, may allow the release of some evidence.

That didn't stop the media and police from releasing a full transcript of the audio recording as well as information on Tostee's psychiatric diagnoses, as well as other bail documents relevant to the matter.

 

[Ausgirl]

When he was confronted it is alleged he twice told the officer to “*advertiser censored** off c***” and “What are you going to do small man”. He was arrested and while he was being placed in the back seat of the police car kicked another officer and had to be sprayed with capsicum spray.

As a result he was charged with commit public nuisance and assault or obstructing a police officer.

http://www.news.com.au/national/gab...-warriena-wright/story-fncynjr2-1227057520144

Prosecutors claim, in the court documents, Mr Tostee was standing in a nearby Surfers Paradise convenience store on Ferny Avenue, buying chocolate and 'using obscene language' when Constable Leigh Hurley approached him and was told twice to '*advertiser censored** off'.

The court documents state Constable Hurley observed Mr Tostee was 'causing alarm to members of the public attempting to purchase items from the store and that he was interfering with 'peaceable business'.

When the officer arrested Mr Tostee, the defendant allegedly said to him, according to court documents: 'What are you going to do small man, *advertiser censored** off c***'.

Prosecutors allege, in the court documents, after being placed in the rear of a police vehicle, Mr Tostee then allegedly put his foot in the door to prevent it being closed, said '*advertiser censored** off' again, 'violently kicked out at' Sergeant Stephen Wright, who sprayed Tostee with capsicum spray which 'had no effect'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ght-court-documents-reveal.html#ixzz3NIpYfvC7

 

[marlywings]

That didn't stop the media and police from releasing a full transcript of the audio recording as well as information on Tostee's psychiatric diagnoses, as well as other bail documents relevant to the matter.

The presiding judge would have granted the release of all those documents at one of the previous hearings. Presiding judge is quite entitled to do so.

 

[Jimmy Russel]

When he was confronted it is alleged he twice told the officer to “*advertiser censored** off c***” and “What are you going to do small man”. He was arrested and while he was being placed in the back seat of the police car kicked another officer and had to be sprayed with capsicum spray.

As a result he was charged with commit public nuisance and assault or obstructing a police officer.

http://www.news.com.au/national/gab...-warriena-wright/story-fncynjr2-1227057520144

Prosecutors claim, in the court documents, Mr Tostee was standing in a nearby Surfers Paradise convenience store on Ferny Avenue, buying chocolate and 'using obscene language' when Constable Leigh Hurley approached him and was told twice to '*advertiser censored** off'.

The court documents state Constable Hurley observed Mr Tostee was 'causing alarm to members of the public attempting to purchase items from the store and that he was interfering with 'peaceable business'.

When the officer arrested Mr Tostee, the defendant allegedly said to him, according to court documents: 'What are you going to do small man, *advertiser censored** off c***'.

Prosecutors allege, in the court documents, after being placed in the rear of a police vehicle, Mr Tostee then allegedly put his foot in the door to prevent it being closed, said '*advertiser censored** off' again, 'violently kicked out at' Sergeant Stephen Wright, who sprayed Tostee with capsicum spray which 'had no effect'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ght-court-documents-reveal.html#ixzz3NIpYfvC7

Keyword "alleged".

Tostee posted his recording of the event, contradicting those allegations. (I hope this is allowed here since it was reported in the media as well "In a 2334-word proclamation featuring photographs and an audio recording" http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...tion-of-innocence-online-20141211-124w9h.html)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82Sb0VEQqZ8

Again, he is yet to be found guilty of it.

 

[Ausgirl]

Keyword "alleged".

Tostee posted his recording of the event, contradicting those allegations. (I hope this is allowed here since it was reported in the media as well "In a 2334-word proclamation featuring photographs and an audio recording" http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...tion-of-innocence-online-20141211-124w9h.html)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82Sb0VEQqZ8

Again, he is yet to be found guilty of it.

Maybe the police, along with the newspapers and all those bar staff and owners, are just out to get him. :waitasec:

Of course he's guilty (and will be found so). The cops didn't just make it all up.


I will wait for Marly to comment on the other recording, before commenting. That case is still underway..

 

[Jimmy Russel]

Maybe the police, along with the newspapers and all those bar staff and owners, are just out to get him. :waitasec:

Of course he's guilty (and will be found so). The cops didn't just make it all up.


I will wait for Marly to comment on the other recording, before commenting. That case is still underway..

So media and police NEVER fabricate things?

 

[Ausgirl]

All these fabrications! Left and right! Poor Gable. The world conspires.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Reading this. Thinking: check. check. check.



Sociopath Traits

According to ICD-10 criteria, presence of 3 or more of the following qualifies for the diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder (~sociopathy):

Callous unconcern for the feelings of others.
Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, and obligations.
Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in establishing them.
Very low tolerance to frustration, a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence.
Incapacity to experience guilt or to profit from experience, particularly punishment.
Markedly prone to blame others or to offer plausible rationalization for the behavior that has brought the person into conflict with society.

http://www.md-health.com/Sociopath-Traits.html


Also: http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

BBM...

though I am interested in all the behaviors of the sociopathic personality reported above...

the one that stand out most to me ATM is the one bolded by me...

I would think that Tostee's desire, continual pursuit, and ability to "connect" with many females ... Yet having the inability to maintain those relationships...(as indicated in his own comments in his SM) ...would discount a "social anxiety" diagnosis.... And fall much more in the category of the sociopathic personality...

JMO...

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Well, it will be interesting to hear the character witnesses statements during the sentencing phase, won't it? I wonder if they'll be able to find any that are not family.

:jail:

IMO... It is interesting that we have heard/read relatively little positive instances from witnesses of Tostee's behavior... Even from family...

Yet... We have heard wonderful accounts of Rrie.... Compassionate to, and care taker of, animals... Wonderful, loving sister.... Etc...