Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #20

[Puggle]

^ ^ The fellow who has been covering the case for The Daily Telegraph did say on ACA that these POIs have been lying and making things hard for police.

Good find. Is DN in his eighties?

Not sure Angeline.....haven't found a link with his age mentioned yet.

That reporter has been on the case since day one....and had the inside scoop....knowing where to be at the exact time ..at the right time. (bush search - back in time for Dreamy's walkaround whilst POI had just left home) He has stirred a bit of trouble and ruffled some feathers here and there along the way...... and some complaints where mentioned in the media.......no coincidence I'm thinking.

I may feel sad that some innocents have been hurt in the process....but ultimately it's a child they are trying to find..

I'm just not 100% buying some of the feedback Mr Auerbach has been given regarding a POI...or reported to be given on the ACA interview.... there was a hell of a lot of distancing from the POI going on...but I recall a certain white station wagon that Police were lead to believe was disposed of.....hell it was at a next door neighbours......I sure would know where and what happened to my vehicle....something's not adding up there.

 

[krig101]

I don't think the mystery of the message on the tree has been cracked. The police implied it was related to geocaching but I don't 100% buy it.

I also think police have enough information to confirm that William was taken, but we are not privy to it.

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However, the geocache gamer who left the objects in the tree informed Mr Carnes through friends that the tree was unpainted when he deposited the bottle in the trunk.

He described 'the person that put [the message] on there' as 'very strange' and the fact that police still did not know who had written the message.



I don't think police have the writing figured out either. As mentioned in the article it's the way it is worded that is so odd.


Police are now certain that evil collided with innocence in the New South Wales mid-north coast town of Kendall, where William Tyrrell went missing 500 days ago.


"Certain" is pretty telling. Seems they are 100% on this. There has to be something they know. But what?

http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...-william-tyrrell-500-days-since-disappearance

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nted-tree-trunk-geocache-gamer-left-find.html

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[Found]

I think Bearbear was simply posting a picture of William, Jubelin just happened to be in the way

No it's an ongoing thing about him being good looking. He is. But getting a bit boring always being bought up!!!


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[Makara]

Can everyone stop perving at Gary Jubelin..... Yeah he's a looker but seriously!!!


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Nup. Not gonna happen. The fact that Gary Jubelin is also head of the investigation into William's disappearance makes him a champion in anyone's eyes who really wants justice for William.

 

[Puggle]

The Child Aproach was him telling a boy he was good at soccer...... Not convicted


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True....

probably nanna was aware that the police had visited dear old neighbour (in a town gripped by "where's William") and was being overly cautious and told little Johnnie....don't you be talking to so and so next door....putting two and two together....

The fact that after cautious Nana reported him.....and police pay him another visit... low and behold he has a USB containing child abuse (*advertiser censored*) material..... simply a coincidence....

The fact that his been convicted twice before is irrelevant... cough!!!

 

[Coldpizza]

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[bearbear]

sorry i just think jubelin has a strong steely determined face, i posted his pic as a reminder of this strength and truely believe him when he said he will find william, that was all, it wasnt meant as a pervy pic!

 

[Warshawski]

Regarding whether the whereabouts of paedophiles should be made public information - I have this to offer. I live on Sunshine Coast (from where Daniel Morcombe was abducted and killed). Residents here thought that we lived in a wonderful & safe, benign area. We were all totally shocked when the investigation revealed that there were over 100 could have been 150) KNOWN paedophiles residing in the area. That's just the 'known' ones.
Since then most of us take many more precautions with children in our care & make no assumptions about who might or might not be a paedophile.
Sadly that seems to be the best way to keep our children safer. FWIW.....

I hear you OB - what a sad indictment of our society. Other generations wonder at today's 'helicopter parenting' along with the particular concern of single Mums, however it doesn't take much investigation to become aware of the reason for - there is the ever present reminder of the proximity of these cretins, who invade the most precious innocence that must be the right of our children.

And I say, what a sad indictment - because to be honest, we allow them their place ..

 

[Found]

Nup. Not gonna happen. The fact that Gary Jubelin is also head of the investigation into William's disappearance makes him a champion in anyone's eyes who really wants justice for William.

So professional!


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[krig101]

BBM. There is an article that I've been trying to find without success that says the abduction is something the perp would have built up to.

This maybe?


If someone took William, it is unlikely to have been their first offence, says Dr Michael Diamond, a forensic psychiatrist and criminal profiler. “You don’t just do this sort of crime for the first time,” he says. “You would have to overcome other experiential things that confront you if you are going to do something of that magnitude.

Is it somebody who has access to a child, and thought about it and not done it because their contact is too obvious, and so it has been a rehearsed and lived-in fantasy without the terrible outcome?” Diamond asks.





https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=804822206268634&substory_index=0&id=114990695251792



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[Warshawski]

I still have that on my list of possibilities...

Much I wish that was the case, and that he is still safe in whatever his salvation became .. That scenario is a No Way .. IMO.

If he ran off in the enactment of the game, he would have very soon realised that he was on his own, turned back, looked for sister, pound out of his comfort zone, maybe lost .. he would have been crying and searching for salvation.
In my opinion, if that was the circumstance, then there is no way that given the searches, he would not have been found in that initial time period.

(Unless he was found by the undesirables)

 

[Puggle]

I hear you OB - what a sad indictment of our society. Other generations wonder at today's 'helicopter parenting' along with the particular concern of single Mums, however it doesn't take much investigation to become aware of the reason for - there is the ever present reminder of the proximity of these cretins, who invade the most precious innocence that must be the right of our children.

And I say, what a sad indictment - because to be honest, we allow them their place ..

I'm not sure if this link is really affiliated with Derryn Hinch....a man I admire so so much...but any google search of him and what he is trying to achieve - support given - has to be admired......

Man ...how many times does this guy have to go to jail for naming and shaming paedophiles within our community.... USA have a sites that names em...what's wrong here in Australia...that we protect their privacy. Hell...we even let them change their names for gods sake....

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[Makara]

So professional!


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What are you on about Found? So professional???

Gary Jubelin is the ultimate professional. The fact that he is also extremely handsome is a bonus.

 

[Warshawski]

Reply with a Thanks..I think Puggle!

very critic post ... I missed the ACA episode so struggling with full interpretation of your message, but do feel a connection.

are you able to be more specific .. Within the rules of course ..

 

[Makara]

sorry i just think jubelin has a strong steely determined face, i posted his pic as a reminder of this strength and truely believe him when he said he will find william, that was all, it wasnt meant as a pervy pic!

No need to apologise bearbear, Gary is gorgeous and is also doing everything in his power to find William. Amen to that!

 

[Deleted member 102539]

yes, he seems heavily involved in church activities

He thinks, he is Jesus and does children good?? Saves them if he got hold of them?? - Maybe the painting/spraying is pointing at him (or similar Jesus-fanatic) although from a geo cacher?

 

[Makara]

This maybe?


If someone took William, it is unlikely to have been their first offence, says Dr Michael Diamond, a forensic psychiatrist and criminal profiler. &#8220;You don&#8217;t just do this sort of crime for the first time,&#8221; he says. &#8220;You would have to overcome other experiential things that confront you if you are going to do something of that magnitude.

Is it somebody who has access to a child, and thought about it and not done it because their contact is too obvious, and so it has been a rehearsed and lived-in fantasy without the terrible outcome?&#8221; Diamond asks.





https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=804822206268634&substory_index=0&id=114990695251792



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Thanks krig101. This leads me once again to thinking that (if William was indeed abducted), it was someone who knew him, knew the family, or at the very least knew the grandmother. I still have my doubts on a daily basis that the four POI's mentioned in MSM had anything at all to do with William's disappearance. That it was in fact someone who has slipped under the radar in the investigation.

I then swing to thinking that perhaps one of the POI's knew the grandmother and gleaned information from her about William. Perhaps he attended the Christmas party the year before that has been mentioned in MSM. William would have only been about two then and he was only three when he disappeared. I just can't reconcile a pedophile abducting such a tiny babe for their own sexual gratification. Then again, I have no understanding of how a pedophile's mind works.

 

[thylacine7]

Paedophiles usually go for older kids (than William), even before you get to hebephilia territory, and people wanting to abduct a child to raise as their own tend to aim younger, which is what makes this case so unique.

Just an opportunistic thing most likely, but as was suggested a few pages ago, I also sometimes wonder if he maybe went further than the searchers thought possible, like Noah Chamberlain who was found just outside the search radius

They were doing the search for Noah in a 1.5 mile radius, which works out to ~2.4km, and the search radius for William was 3km... but not initially - initially it was only 1.5km. Maybe he did wander further than 1.5km early on, then in the same direction past the 3km by the time the search was expanded.

Considering the realities of the situation though that's exceedingly unlikely - such a small kid, such impenetrable bush, his mother's assertion that he never wandered far from them, etc.

 

[richieswan]

Paedophiles usually go for older kids (than William), even before you get to hebephilia territory, and people wanting to abduct a child to raise as their own tend to aim younger, which is what makes this case so unique.

Just an opportunistic thing most likely, but as was suggested a few pages ago, I also sometimes wonder if he maybe went further than the searchers thought possible, like Noah Chamberlain who was found just outside the search radius

They were doing the search for Noah in a 1.5 mile radius, which works out to ~2.4km, and the search radius for William was 3km... but not initially - initially it was only 1.5km. Maybe he did wander further than 1.5km early on, then in the same direction past the 3km by the time the search was expanded.

Considering the realities of the situation though that's exceedingly unlikely - such a small kid, such impenetrable bush, his mother's assertion that he never wandered far from them, etc.

Every scenario just seems so unlikely. To me a murder seems possible, whether that be for thrills or revenge or blackmail (for reasons I have no idea). Sacrificial lamb? Drunk physcopath? Drugged up teens? Hitman? All my opinion.

 

[SouthAussie]

What are you on about Found? So professional???

Gary Jubelin is the ultimate professional. The fact that he is also extremely handsome is a bonus.

I wish we&#8217;d post a picture of Jubelin on every page of our threads! As a stark reminder to these creeps that someone is hot on their trail and he is NOT going to let up. Jubelin sees first-hand the horror that the children experience, their torn little bodies, the grief stricken and helpless parents, the slimy perps who &#8220;lovingly&#8221; damage these children while the children are sobbing, terrified, and in terrible pain &#8230;&#8230;
:stormingmad:
He faces this stuff every day.
Jubelin (and his teams) deserves our full support and a little hero-worship IMO.