Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #23

[kiwi50]

Still thinking of you William and your lovely family. If only someone would give them the answers they deserve, they can never move on until then. I can't imagine a worse situation to live in, not knowing.

 

[crabstick]

So people live in public housing and derive income from verge pick ups or any other place they can find items of value and sell for cash

Are they kicked out of public housing deriving cash revenue? Obviously they all know each other. Pick up more than fridges for cash.

No one takes a second look at a vehicle with fridges on the side.

No cameras in the area, sure,the Tennis club but the President? had found nothing of the day. Did a car go to the scrap?

Investigators will today set up at the Kendall Tennis Club with still images taken of all cars captured on the club’s CCTV camera on the morning William went missing in the hope of identifying any suspicious vehicles.

Port Macquarie Superintendent Paul Fehon, who is leading the investigation into the three-year-old’s disappearance nine weeks ago, said police were asking everyone who drove past the Graham St club before 11am on September 12 to come forward and identify their vehicle.

“We’re trying to match them up to see if we can eliminate the local cars and then see if we’ve got cars that are unusual,” Supt Fehon said.

“Unfortunately, it’s not a head on or behind shot where we would have number plates, it’s only descriptions of cars.

“We’ll look at the side profile of a car and if we can’t find identify some then we may have a new line of inquiry.”

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...l/news-story/69f3c1348747905f6565c1084547d307

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[bearbear]

the liquor shop and local businesses in laurieton where bs has an "office"would have cctv, and i think the liquor store staff next door said they were asked by police to save their footage, so any activity immediately before and after william going missing would at least show if bs was at buzz cafe or anyone taking anything into bs office and cars driving through the area

 

[sosocurious]

the liquor shop and local businesses in laurieton where bs has an "office"would have cctv, and i think the liquor store staff next door said they were asked by police to save their footage, so any activity immediately before and after william going missing would at least show if bs was at buzz cafe or anyone taking anything into bs office and cars driving through the area

Chapman said she has heard about the man who had walked into one of the businesses in town and asked for directions to near where William went missing. She believes the story is true.
"I think the police side of things, the suspicion, was there straight away," she says.
"Just little things like looking at our CCTV. We were told not to delete anything and that was the next day.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/missing-william-tyrell-casts-dark-shadow-over-town-20141031-11fbdi.html

Yes Bear it seems they were on to the cctv promptly. LE knew about the cars, the expection that the washer would be repair and phone calls to that repairman regardless of who phoned who.
I wonder if Laureiton was included in those early requests to not delete cctv.
imo

 

[koios]

South-east side of the house where WT disappeared:

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/inside-the-mind-of-william-tyrrells-abductor-20150911-gjkqyz.html

At the east corner of the house under the balcony is a circular above-ground rainwater tank, estimated about 2m diameter by about 2m high, probably plastic, with rounded corrugations running horizontally around it. Obviously it would be impossible to climb up if located in isolation due to lack grip for hands and feet on the corrugations. However in the photo you can see there are 3 fixed objects next to it: a white balcony support post, a tree, and the wall of the house. By using one of those three fixed objects as support to push against, sufficient hand and feet grip might be attained on the corrugations for a child to climb to the top?

 

[Bohemian]

South-east side of the house where WT disappeared:

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/inside-the-mind-of-william-tyrrells-abductor-20150911-gjkqyz.html

At the east corner of the house under the balcony is a circular above-ground rainwater tank, estimated about 2m diameter by about 2m high, probably plastic, with rounded corrugations running horizontally around it. Obviously it would be impossible to climb up if located in isolation due to lack grip for hands and feet on the corrugations. However in the photo you can see there are 3 fixed objects next to it: a white balcony support post, a tree, and the wall of the house. By using one of those three fixed objects as support to push against, sufficient hand and feet grip might be attained on the corrugations for a child to climb to the top?

Welcome koios and thank you for posting your thoughts. In any other circumstance, I would say this may be possible but William didn't like heights. In the morning, before he disappeared, William's FM encouraged him to climb a tree in his FGM's yard, even offering to help him up into one of its lower branches. William refused.

 

[Eloise]

Chapman said she has heard about the man who had walked into one of the businesses in town and asked for directions to near where William went missing. She believes the story is true.
"I think the police side of things, the suspicion, was there straight away," she says.
"Just little things like looking at our CCTV. We were told not to delete anything and that was the next day.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/missing-william-tyrell-casts-dark-shadow-over-town-20141031-11fbdi.html

I wish I could find the article now, but one article said that a female police officer who came to the house the day WT went missing said "this is an abduction". I think they knew straight away this was not a kid who wandered off.
I think the bush search with volunteers was done for two reasons, a) to be thorough and cover all bases and b) to possibly find evidence of said abduction, not so much to find WT himself.

 

[koios]

Thankyou Bohemian. I think that all 2-year-olds have a natural fear of heights. However I think this is insufficient reason to assume they will never climb. I refer to a sad incident in 2006 in the Adelaide Hills where two 2-year-olds climbed to the top of a 2m high water tank.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2006-05-19/grandparents-minding-drowned-twins/1757552
Also to a sad incident in Helidon in this past week where a 2-year-old visiting grandparents' house was reportedly playing hide and seek, and fell into a water tank.
http://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/missing-boy-2-found-property-dam/3082416/

 

[Bohemian]

Thankyou Bohemian. I think that all 2-year-olds have a natural fear of heights. However I think this is insufficient reason to assume they will never climb. I refer to a sad incident in 2006 in the Adelaide Hills where two 2-year-olds climbed to the top of a 2m high water tank.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2006-05-19/grandparents-minding-drowned-twins/1757552
Also to a sad incident in Helidon in this past week where a 2-year-old visiting grandparents' house was reportedly playing hide and seek, and fell into a water tank.
http://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/missing-boy-2-found-property-dam/3082416/

I agree that past behaviour of any child is not a predictor of their future behaviour, koios. They are unpredictable, as your links evidence. It will be two years, on 12 September, since William disappeared so if he had climbed, fallen into and drowned in the rainwater tank, wouldn't it be reasonable to assume his remains would have been discovered by now?

Decomposing remains float to the water's surface within given periods of time (depending on temperature). Their odour, particularly of decomposing adipose tissue (body fat) would be noticeable and distinctive (the so-called 'smell of death').

 

[krig101]

I wish I could find the article now, but one article said that a female police officer who came to the house the day WT went missing said "this is an abduction". I think they knew straight away this was not a kid who wandered off.
I think the bush search with volunteers was done for two reasons, a) to be thorough and cover all bases and b) to possibly find evidence of said abduction, not so much to find WT himself.

https://m.facebook.com/114990695251...069991.28900.114990695251792/804822172935304/

About 11 paragraphs down starting with "At 2:35"

Sorry, phone won't let me copy n paste this article.

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[sleepinoz]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ndreds_linked|index|author&itmt=1472856501973

[FONT=&quot]Police who are investigating the dis*appear*ance of three-year-old William Tyrrell from the NSW mid-north coast have identified hundreds of “persons of interest” to their *inquiry and have called in other squads of detectives to help rule out many of these names.
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]As only a few of these people were previously identified by the press, the real scale of the investig*ation has not been *revealed *before.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]With the second anniversary of William’s dis*appearance falling later this month, The Weekend Australian can also reveal that NSW Premier Mike Baird has personally promised the boy’s parents and police involved to provide any resource the *investigation needs.[/FONT]

 

[krig101]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ndreds_linked|index|author&itmt=1472856501973

[FONT=&quot]Police who are investigating the dis*appear*ance of three-year-old William Tyrrell from the NSW mid-north coast have identified hundreds of “persons of interest” to their *inquiry and have called in other squads of detectives to help rule out many of these names.
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]As only a few of these people were previously identified by the press, the real scale of the investig*ation has not been *revealed *before.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]With the second anniversary of William’s dis*appearance falling later this month, The Weekend Australian can also reveal that NSW Premier Mike Baird has personally promised the boy’s parents and police involved to provide any resource the *investigation needs.[/FONT]

Hundreds?

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[sleepinoz]

[h=1]William Tyrrell: fear in Kendall where little boy disappeared[/h]
They all know the void, that dark and hollow space the size and shape of a three-year-old boy in a Spider-Man suit. In the days after William Tyrrell vanished from his grandmother’s yard on September 12, 2014, the people of Kendall and its surrounding towns on the NSW mid-north coast filled that void with hope, a unifying faith that the beautiful boy was just beyond the next ridge, just hiding behind the next blue gum.

As the second anniversary of his disappearance nears and the increasingly complex web of suspects in William’s alleged abduction expands, those same townspeople can’t help but fill that void with fear.
“So much suspicious stuff,” says Andrew Copelin, a father of three standing by the brick canteen of the Kendall Sports Ground, watching his young children sidestep and weave through a regional school touch football competition that has attracted young families from the neighbouring towns of Laurieton, Bonny Hills, North Haven, Wauchope, Kew, Beechwood and the more bustling Port Macquarie, 30km away.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...d/news-story/2d8aa4bde6c83ded451c26090fb55643

 

[Bohemian]

I wish I could find the article now, but one article said that a female police officer who came to the house the day WT went missing said "this is an abduction". I think they knew straight away this was not a kid who wandered off.
I think the bush search with volunteers was done for two reasons, a) to be thorough and cover all bases and b) to possibly find evidence of said abduction, not so much to find WT himself.

https://m.facebook.com/114990695251...069991.28900.114990695251792/804822172935304/

About 11 paragraphs down starting with "At 2:35"


Sorry, phone won't let me copy n paste this article.

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How could toddler William Tyrrell simply vanish into thin air?
Greg Bearup And Dan Box
The Australian (The Weekend Australian Feature)
12:00 am April 18, 2015

'At 2.35pm detectives are dispatched from Port Macquarie and begin taking statements. One of them speaks to a colleague, Detective Senior Constable Vanessa Partridge, back at Port Macquarie late that afternoon; they are worried something more sinister may have taken place. Partridge arrives very early the next day, and already there are people out on horseback, on bicycle, on foot, searching for William. His dad is out there with them, and will be for days, thinking, “Surely if he is out here in the bush he’ll be found?”

Arriving at the house on Benaroon Drive, Partridge is thinking, “Something just doesn’t feel right about this whole thing.”'

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...sh-into-thin-air/story-e6frg6z6-1227308929078

 

[koios]

You make a valid point Bohemian, however the floor of the the balcony above the rainwater tank appears to have no gaps for air to pass up through from below, so air emerging from the top of the tank would I think go primarily to the open atmosphere.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-William-Tyrrell-snatched-13-months-ago.html

 

[Bohemian]

You make a valid point Bohemian, however the floor of the the balcony above the rainwater tank appears to have no gaps for air to pass up through from below, so air emerging from the top of the tank would I think go primarily to the open atmosphere.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-William-Tyrrell-snatched-13-months-ago.html

If it's closed in at the top, that means the tank was more than likely hatchless, and 'plumbed in' to the guttering through a downpipe as are most, if not all, domestic rainwater tanks. I was thinking more along the lines of water tanks used on farms that are 'open' at the top. Believe me, you can smell the remains of smaller animals than humans coming from those (but maybe it's just my sense of smell, having close relatives who were rural families and studying forensic biology, I can sniff out a dead ringtail possum who's halfway up the street from me, sadly).

 

[Bohemian]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ndreds_linked|index|author&itmt=1472856501973

[FONT=&quot]Police who are investigating the dis*appear*ance of three-year-old William Tyrrell from the NSW mid-north coast have identified hundreds of “persons of interest” to their *inquiry and have called in other squads of detectives to help rule out many of these names.
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]As only a few of these people were previously identified by the press, the real scale of the investig*ation has not been *revealed *before.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]With the second anniversary of William’s dis*appearance falling later this month, The Weekend Australian can also reveal that NSW Premier Mike Baird has personally promised the boy’s parents and police involved to provide any resource the *investigation needs.[/FONT]

[h=1]William Tyrrell: fear in Kendall where little boy disappeared[/h]
They all know the void, that dark and hollow space the size and shape of a three-year-old boy in a Spider-Man suit. In the days after William Tyrrell vanished from his grandmother’s yard on September 12, 2014, the people of Kendall and its surrounding towns on the NSW mid-north coast filled that void with hope, a unifying faith that the beautiful boy was just beyond the next ridge, just hiding behind the next blue gum.

As the second anniversary of his disappearance nears and the increasingly complex web of suspects in William’s alleged abduction expands, those same townspeople can’t help but fill that void with fear.
“So much suspicious stuff,” says Andrew Copelin, a father of three standing by the brick canteen of the Kendall Sports Ground, watching his young children sidestep and weave through a regional school touch football competition that has attracted young families from the neighbouring towns of Laurieton, Bonny Hills, North Haven, Wauchope, Kew, Beechwood and the more bustling Port Macquarie, 30km away.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...d/news-story/2d8aa4bde6c83ded451c26090fb55643

Thanks for your posts and link, sleep x

 

[Bohemian]

Hundreds?

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Shocking. To paraphrase Sir Walter Scott; What a tangled web the investigators have to 'unweave'...

 

[frogwell]

From his house directly opposite William’s grandmother’s former home, an elderly man named Paul (surname withheld for privacy reasons) and his son, Sean, have watched long-time friends and neighbours slowly drift away from Benaroon Drive.
“A lot of them have moved,” he says. “One bloke left because he felt intimidated by the police. He had a few problems. He wasn’t a crook or a bad bloke, just a bit of a loner. He wanted out.”
“A recluse,” says Sean. “I think all of the attention sort of frightened him.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...d/news-story/2d8aa4bde6c83ded451c26090fb55643

To access the article type "fear in Kendall where little boy disappeared"

 

[krig101]

Shocking. To paraphrase Sir Walter Scott; What a tangled web the investigators have to 'unweave'...

It is shocking! That number is astounding. Is this the whole town of Kendall or how many thought to be involved in a pedo ring? Makes me feel very sick. What do police know that we don't?

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