Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - # 5

DNA Solves
DNA Solves
DNA Solves

New Posts

Status
Not open for further replies.
Making a couple of notes here for all, especially for any newer members....

William's family circumstances are not up for discussion at all. Sleuthing the family is also not allowed. William's father has been cleared by police, insinuations towards him are also not allowed.

IF you post something as fact then you need to include a link to the relevant media or police report.

WS does not allow discussions about social media comments. We class all social media comments as rumour. You can paraphrase a comment as long as you include the link to it but that's as far as it goes.
 
Sorry but I am not making comment on things written on FB, I just dont think its fair that Jake's name has been put out on here when from what I know he wasnt the tracker who said he found the knife sheath. Jake has rights as well, surely??
 
Adrianna said:
Sorry but I am not making comment on things written on FB, I just dont think its fair that Jake's name has been put out on here when from what I know he wasnt the tracker who said he found the knife sheath. Jake has rights as well, surely??
Click to expand...

And a very good reputation
 
sleepinoz said:
And a very good reputation
Click to expand...

Yes your right a good reputation, He was someone who like many gave up his time, his ability to earn an income to look for William. So quickly words written here become facts. I dont know Jake, but I have followed him since the search and I am sure he is not the tracker that people have spoken about, but as his name was tossed in I would hate to see him blamed for something he didnt do.
 
meh its just a rumour and a case of he said she said. Whether or not a sheath was found im now not sure. MSM says it was

Bush trackers have found clues such as a knife sheath and a set of small footprints but police have investigated all tip-offs from bush searches and still don't have a solid lead

"Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2760087/Police-believe-William-Tyrell-3-picked-car-crews-preparing-search-roads-nearby-forest-hope-finding-alive-fades.html#ixzz3RRDSn4td"

Doesn't confirm or deny the sheath find IMO. If they did have a sheath, wouldn't it be a solid lead?
 
Regarding deleting phone records.

I can imagine an innocent person, who had a brush with a crime scene, panic and decide to clear their connections with the scene... just in case they get tangled up.

It's a stupid thing to do, since it tangles them up further by making them look guilty.

But I can imagine an innocent person not thinking it through, and try to wipe any connections.
 
butterstick said:
Regarding deleting phone records.

I can imagine an innocent person, who had a brush with a crime scene, panic and decide to clear their connections with the scene... just in case they get tangled up.

It's a stupid thing to do, since it tangles them up further by making them look guilty.

But I can imagine an innocent person not thinking it through, and try to wipe any connections.
Click to expand...

I can also imagine the same thing. And you're right, it's a silly thought process. One would think having the call log would be more of a help than hindrance. It is evidence of a tradesman and customer being in contact, which is expected and normal activity. And if that's the only connection that WS has with this family I can't think of why he would want to erase it. Maybe like you say, just a moment of panic.
What about a guilty person then? Do you think a guilty person might have the opposite thought process and decide that, firstly, by erasing the call log it will only make them appear guilty if they are investigated, but keeping the call log will in a way be evidence that you were just trying to carry out your job, because how can you say you called someone at a certain time/ they called you to confirm something with them, if you've erased the call log?

ETA these ramblings are all under the assumption that WS has actually deleted or in some way edited his call logs. Does anyone have any link to say that is the case? Last I read was that there were inconsistencies in WS police interviews, has anything been released specifically on these inconsistencies? I'm not sure if I've missed something!

'As they checked out everyone’s statements about where they were on that Friday, detectives allegedly found some inconsistencies in what Mr Spedding told them which led them to raid his former pawnbroking office in Laurieton and his home at Bonny Hills this week.'
http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news...aring-family-man/story-fnpn118l-1227193777963
 
Preye said:
Doesn't confirm or deny the sheath find IMO. If they did have a sheath, wouldn't it be a solid lead?
Click to expand...

Not necessarily. Maybe they did have it, but it was quickly proven unrelated somehow.
 
bearbear said:
reading his public blogs and fb, he seems like a very caring environmentally friendly person who gives a lot to his community and really not the sort of person who would make something up like that and waste police time.
and he seems well respected, he led police to search the three brothers forest i think.
i wish we found out if he found anything more
so many people out there searching, maybe one of the other searchers found the sheath and they were told it wasnt relevant to this case,
some of the find wt fb pages are really interesting but also full of bickering and people taking things out of context and just running with it
Click to expand...

Similar to the MSM by all accounts
 
Panda said:
Similar to the MSM by all accounts
Click to expand...

How has MSM ‘taken out of context’ the fact that police swooped and did a massive search on all of Spedding’s property, including his septic tank, his burn off area, his phones, his computers? Is there some embellishment there that I have missed?

I believe that they are directly speaking of the actions of the specialised Homicide squad, the Sex Crimes squad, and the forensic teams - not the Keystone Cops.

And MSM were evidently given free rein to speak of the search, and maybe even encouraged to do so, when so much else has been relegated to the strict privacy box.

:waitasec:


.
 
sosocurious said:
Media Policy -

https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/175269/Media_Policy_030913.pdf
Click to expand...

Thank you sosocurious, that was enlightening!
So do you think section 4.1 about the media releasing information on investigations applies to the coverage of WS in the media, or the section a little further down on persons of interest? (I couldn't copy and paste from the document sorry). It doesn't seem that policy had been strictly adhered to. I wonder why?

OT but there is a section in there on media blackouts which seems to mainly be directed at media coverage of siege situations. That also was not strictly adhered to during the live coverage of the Martin place siege in Sydney last year. There must be times that exceptions are made. Either that or media just blatantly goes against the policies!

Edited to add, section 10.2 'When a strike force is formed' is also interesting. From that could we deduct that media and LE are most certainly working closely with on another?
 
SouthAussie said:
How has MSM ‘taken out of context’ the fact that police swooped and did a massive search on all of Spedding’s property, including his septic tank, his burn off area, his phones, his computers? Is there some embellishment there that I have missed?

I believe that they are directly speaking of the actions of the specialised Homicide squad, the Sex Crimes squad, and the forensic teams - not the Keystone Cops.

And MSM were evidently given free rein to speak of the search, and maybe even encouraged to do so, when so much else has been relegated to the strict privacy box.

:waitasec:


.
Click to expand...

I was speaking generally - there seemed to be some elements in this case that have been incorrectly reported (I thought). There seemed to be a few instances of conflicting reports in the media - that's all. I'm not suggesting anything to do with reporting the search on Spedding's property.
 
msadventure said:
Dirt bikes are noisy, but in a semi-rural suburb, wouldn't they be heard quite often? And couldn't the sound of one be mistaken for say, the Postman? Just thinking of all bike type possibilities here.
Click to expand...

Probably not at 10.30am on a weekday.

Dirt bikes have a very distinguished sound (very annoying sound) and are quite different from postie scooter type road bikes as far as I am aware...but I'm not sure what type of bike their postie rides???
 
another.com said:
Thank you sosocurious, that was enlightening!
So do you think section 4.1 about the media releasing information on investigations applies to the coverage of WS in the media, or the section a little further down on persons of interest? (I couldn't copy and paste from the document sorry). It doesn't seem that policy had been strictly adhered to. I wonder why?

OT but there is a section in there on media blackouts which seems to mainly be directed at media coverage of siege situations. That also was not strictly adhered to during the live coverage of the Martin place siege in Sydney last year. There must be times that exceptions are made. Either that or media just blatantly goes against the policies!

Edited to add, section 10.2 'When a strike force is formed' is also interesting. From that could we deduct that media and LE are most certainly working closely with on another?
Click to expand...

I am not sure what to think.
Just thought there is a policy (guideline) for everything.
It was worth a look.

The schedules at the bottom I thought interesting. (even reading them sideways ... lol)
 
Puggle said:
Probably not at 10.30am on a weekday.

Dirt bikes have a very distinguished sound (very annoying sound) and are quite different from postie scooter type road bikes as far as I am aware...but I'm not sure what type of bike their postie rides???
Click to expand...

I'm on a similar rural 1 acre estate & our postie drives a car & a small van delivers the parcels.
 
they'll get you said:
I'm on a similar rural 1 acre estate & our postie drives a car.
Click to expand...

We're in a similar situation, a rural town with 1 acre blocks, our postie drives a small van or a car, depending on which postie is working.
 
A strikeforce including sex crimes investigators has been established following William Tyrrel's disappearance, 5 days ago after the 3yrr old went missing near Kendall...........

It also includes officers from the State Crime Command and Forensic Services Group. .... in the strongest sign police are now focusing more on HOW and WHY.
The State Crime Command under its Serious Crimes Directorate investigates sex crimes as well as disappearance cases.

http://www.portnews.com.au/story/2563297/strike-force-established-in-search-for-william-tyrell/

Serious Crimes Directorate.
http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/about_us/structure/operations_command/state_crime_command
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

DNASolves

Who is DeKalb County John Doe (2022)?

Members online

... and 159 more.
Total: 1,353 (members: 160, guests: 1,193)

Online statistics

Members online
160
Guests online
1,193
Total visitors
1,353
Totals may include hidden visitors.

Forum statistics

Threads
602,151
Messages
18,135,712
Members
231,253
Latest member
JKP
Back
Top