Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #58

[they'll get you]

2GB just now said Det Fuller looking at one suspect.

He stressed only one.

Ben then stressed the foster parents have always denied any knowledge of what happened to William.
(I still believe them).
Snippets of the 10 podcast were played with the FP speaking of their love for William.

 

[mussopossum]

I understand from various media articles and video (all posted upthread and thread 57) that Bennett implied the Coronial Inquest is scheduled to end in January 2022? I suppose everything is based on the outcome of the current searches in Kendall and other facts the Police investigators/Coroner/DPP are aware of.

Any discovery of skeletal remains that are verified to be William, would certainly confirm beyond doubt for the Coroner that William is deceased and that was the whole point of the Coronial Inquest IMO.

Then the NSW Police through the DPP would mount a prosecution against any possible (alleged) offender where the NSW Police/DPP have evidence to support that prosecution. Is it possible any person that had knowledge of what occurred with William is given immunity from prosecution?

IMO given the current circumstances, a prosecution may not include wilful murder or manslaughter. I don't know what the legal terms are if William's death was caused by an accident or a medical issue and deliberate steps were taken by any alleged offender who chose to dispose of William in a currently unknown location, to give false information to welfare authorities and police investigators and to the Coronial Inquest and to deliberately dispose of William's body. Testimony given at Coronial Inquests is under oath I believe (IMO) therefore any deliberate false information in signed statements and testimony may be considered perjury.

IMO the case could well turn out to be a legal nightmare.

Just trying to sort out in my head what future processes may be.

I am wondering if in fact, some sort of remains have been discovered and that is why the specialists are there, to determine if that is where the original burial site is or bones were later removed. I hate to even think about it, but the latest news suggests as they said, they are looking for his remains

 

[sniffsniffcough]

Maybe good , maybe not , she’s been with foster parents for at least 7 years - they are her main carers … terrible situation for this girl - hard to see she wouldn’t be damaged by all this - I am very worried about her

I was extremely worried about her when I heard her statement that was read to the Coroner. I truly couldn't believe the words in that statement were her words. To me the statement appeared to have been written by someone else and more likely an adult. IMO

 

[Mrs G Norris]

'The chief suspect in the disappearance of William Tyrrell has had a child removed from her custody as police search an area of Kendall where they believe his body may be buried."

No Cookies | Daily Telegraph

 

[mussopossum]

I understand from various media articles and video (all posted upthread and thread 57) that Bennett implied the Coronial Inquest is scheduled to end in January 2022? I suppose everything is based on the outcome of the current searches in Kendall and other facts the Police investigators/Coroner/DPP are aware of.

Any discovery of skeletal remains that are verified to be William, would certainly confirm beyond doubt for the Coroner that William is deceased and that was the whole point of the Coronial Inquest IMO.

Then the NSW Police through the DPP would mount a prosecution against any possible (alleged) offender where the NSW Police/DPP have evidence to support that prosecution. Is it possible any person that had knowledge of what occurred with William is given immunity from prosecution?

IMO given the current circumstances, a prosecution may not include wilful murder or manslaughter. I don't know what the legal terms are if William's death was caused by an accident or a medical issue and deliberate steps were taken by any alleged offender who chose to dispose of William in a currently unknown location, to give false information to welfare authorities and police investigators and to the Coronial Inquest and to deliberately dispose of William's body. Testimony given at Coronial Inquests is under oath I believe (IMO) therefore any deliberate false information in signed statements and testimony may be considered perjury.

IMO the case could well turn out to be a legal nightmare.

Just trying to sort out in my head what future processes may be.

I am wondering if in fact, some sort of remains have been discovered and that is why the specialists are there, to determine if that is where the original burial site is or bones were later removed. I hate to even think about it, but the latest news suggests as they said, they are looking for his remains

 

[sniffsniffcough]

Maybe good , maybe not , she’s been with foster parents for at least 7 years - they are her main carers … terrible situation for this girl - hard to see she wouldn’t be damaged by all this - I am very worried about her

I was extremely worried about her when I heard her statement that was read to the Coroner. I truly couldn't believe the words in that statement were her words. To me the statement appeared to have been written by someone else and more likely an adult. IMO

 

[CooperDyl]

With the inquest not scheduled to conclude until early next year I’m worried we won’t have any more answers until then…. Hopefully this current search proves fruitful and we can put this thing to rest much sooner

 

[Waverider]

My thoughts include all of your sentiments and I would like to add that it is possible an accidental injury or health issue occurred (details I recall from media articles stated William suffered from Asthma) causing death of William and in full panic mode decisions were made that could then not be unmade.

While I agree that in a panic people can do things they otherwise wouldn’t, even a short period of time spent reflecting would lead a reasonable person to understand what they need to do to minimise loved ones’ suffering and not waste time and resources. If they are responsible, I’m horrified at what they’ve done to perpetuate the BS..

 

[they'll get you]

Child taken from suspect as cops renew Tyrrell search
No Cookies | Herald Sun

This article might have a paywall but it states chief suspect in the case of missing child William Tyrrell has child taken away from her

I’m taking my sleuthing hat off. If this is the case my percentage rate just fell 90%.

 

[sniffsniffcough]

'The chief suspect in the disappearance of William Tyrrell has had a child removed from her custody as police search an area of Kendall where they believe his body may be buried."

No Cookies | Daily Telegraph

Now I am crying a river of tears. OMG OMG OMG.

If in the end it is proven William's death was not an accident or a health issue suffered on 12/9/2014 I can no longer put into words to describe what my anger level will be.

 

[SouthAussie]

I am wondering if in fact, some sort of remains have been discovered and that is why the specialists are there, to determine if that is where the original burial site is or bones were later removed. I hate to even think about it, but the latest news suggests as they said, they are looking for his remains

I think some of us have always thought William will be found not too far from the house. Envisioning a nefarious, spontaneous assault followed by death.

I have never liked the 'bird scream' the FM heard, because I have always wondered if that was caused by a bird being disturbed by someone harming William, or if the 'bird scream' was William himself.

 

[they'll get you]

If this article contains correct information then IMO there has been some sort of other legally-based action to permanently remove the foster carers' status and that they are now considered former foster carers and the legal protection on naming them no longer stands.

I am very surprised there was or has been no legal action taken out by the foster carers to prevent their full names being used publicly on the NSW lawlink registry site.

No because it will still identify the child.
Imo.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Is it even possible .. like I am having issues with the believability of what police are implying here.

 

[SouthAussie]

No because it will still identify the child.
Imo.

On Ch7 this morning they said that the FP names are still suppressed (for the media).

 

[Waverider]

There is witness testimony that children were heard playing (by PS) between 9 and 9:30.
So, unless he was lying, the FGM was lying, and the FM was lying (collaborative lying) William was there at that time.

The idea of other children having been in the area at the time were dispelled, I believe, due to it being a school day, 9pm being after school started for the day, and no other children being in that area at that time.

I personally am trying to make this 'new' scenario fit with using all of the known facts.

He only says he heard ‘children’ playing - he wasn’t specific as to which children or how many.. It doesn’t convincingly corroborate the FCs timeline IMO

 

[ReadySet]

Apologies because I have not followed this case as closely as some; I hope someone who is more knowledgeable than me will weigh in.

Am I correct or not that there are no direct quotes from LE stating either FC as persons of interest or suspects? It is only media who state this? I admit I keep running into paywalls so maybe it's in a source I haven't read.

Is it possible that FC have been abusive but that at the same time they are not suspected in the disappearance? What am I missing?
TIA

 

[mussopossum]

Is it even possible that FF arrived home, accidentally hit WT with the car for instance, assessed him, hid him well enough not to be uncovered (considering all the police and searches in the area since) then returned in time to join in with the searches? I don't know .. seems fairly unlikely to me.

I was talking to my mum about this last night, if William was accidentally run over by the FF or something when he came home or before went out. It happens all the time in driveways but IMO the only reason that you would cover up such a tragic accident is if you may have been under the influence of drugs or alcohol at the time and a possibility of a conviction for the death because of it. Otherwise, it would be reported as an honest accident if he had run out in front of or behind the car. I remember this was a scenario we were looking at with PS and his wife at one stage as a possibility.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I was talking to my mum about this last night, if William was accidentally run over by the FF or something when he came home or before went out. It happens all the time in driveways but IMO the only reason that you would cover up such a tragic accident is if you may have been under the influence of drugs or alcohol at the time and a possibility of a conviction for the death because of it. Otherwise, it would be reported as an honest accident if he had run out in front of or behind the car. I remember this was a scenario we were looking at with PS and his wife at one stage as a possibility.

Yeah agree, it all seems unlikely to me at the moment ..

 

[mussopossum]

'Focused' search for William Tyrrell looking for 'disturbed ground'


Bouda told Today that among the investigators were specialists including an archeologist and a specialist in human remains.
"The sad part about this is, we're not looking for a little boy who's missing, but a little boy who's died," he said.

 

[SouthAussie]

Apologies because I have not followed this case as closely as some; I hope someone who is more knowledgeable than me will weigh in.

Am I correct or not that there are no direct quotes from LE stating either FC as persons of interest or suspects? It is only media who state this? I admit I keep running into paywalls so maybe it's in a source I haven't read.

Is it possible that FC have been abusive but that at the same time they are not suspected in the disappearance? What am I missing?
TIA

No ... there is nothing out there specifically naming them as POIs.

There was a comment by police that everyone is a POI - stated within the last couple of years.
Other than that, it is media reporting. AFAIK