AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #14

[txanmom]

I had nightmares about this poor baby all night.

It is raining here today and I am going to make a big pot of soup. I am going to hug my family extra tight tonight and keep Becky and her boys in my thoughts.

I think it is time for me to take a self-imposed time-out. I wish you all a wonderful day.

I hope I did not offend anyone here, I agree wholeheartedly that we are all entitled to our opinions.

 

[marazul]

In regards to SC and his 911 call. I was thinking about his manner of speaking and what some saw as effiminate, but what sounds to me like when someone speaks in a very condescending manner. He speaks slowly as if he is talking down to stupid people. This makes me think he is a very controlling person and definetely has an outside personality and an inside personality. I think he controlled BC and the kids and probably thought he could control the whole worlds perception of him. I think he had something to do with this and I think his family was very afraid of him. I think they believe he had something to do with this as well. And not in an FBI informant kind of way. Just a domestic violence abuser type of way. JMO

I can see your point, especially when he voluntarily spelled his name ( not too many alternate spellings of Sergio) and did the whole middle initial thing with himself and Isabel. IMO if asked a missing child's name by 911, the answer is Jane! Jane Doe! She is 6 years old! Not "Jane, that is j a n e, middle initial m like man..."

 

[liz b.]

No. I don't think that is why Isa was taken. I don't know anything about gun smuggling, trafficking being related to her disappearance.

All I know is that Sergio has connections with the Cartel and LE was looking into this being related to her disappearance.

As far as trafficking goes, yes people to kidnap US children for some reason and take them to other countries to be raped. I don't know why this is. But it also happens here.

Okay, I was just wondering about a MSM link is all... JMO

But,no worries, I think all input is valuable. And your information is very interesting. A little girl is missing.... JMO

 

[dimples37398]

If she was taken to Mexico for any reason whatsoever I don't believe it was a random thing, there are plenty of other closer border towns to get children from that are US Citizens, if that is what they were looking for. If she was taken to Mexico, I would be far more likely to believe it was something to do with payback or revenge or something of those sorts.

I still believe it is far much more likely based on many things, that a family member had something to do with her disappearance.

 

[Mendara]

Wait - the father chuckles on the 911 call? I am at work so I can't hear it. The other day i thought someone kidnapped my son from the park as I took my eyes off him for two seconds. My husband and I went into a full panic and the sounds coming out of my mouth as a screamed for him where insane. My husband almost fainted. We found him, he was hiding but it was the sacriest seconds of my life!

 

[abstr]

This is what I used to think. That it was all in the family. I know they believe Sergio is the reason this happened but I also know that they believe he has ties to the cartel. Some things have happened since she disappeared that led them to this conclusion. This isn't something I read online.

Can you tell us how you KNOW this?

 

[dimples37398]

Wait - the father chuckles on the 911 call? I am at work so I can't hear it. The other day i thought someone kidnapped my son from the park as I took my eyes off him for two seconds. My husband and I went into a full panic and the sounds coming out of my mouth as a screamed for him where insane. My husband almost fainted. We found him, he was hiding but it was the sacriest seconds of my life!

Yes the dad chuckles in the 911 call, he says to the 911 operator, (Speaking of his wife) I told her to get her butt home, haha.

 

[Hopeful One]

Yes, the father chuckles during the 911 call. I don't like to judge guilt or innocence based on reactions during these times, but sometimes it's hard not to. How are you able to laugh????

The more I read about this case, the sicker I get. She is such a beautiful little girl and I don't feel there will be a very good outcome here. I can just imagine what her mother is going through. I don't know how I could function.

 

[Isabelle]

Yeah the whole get her butt home thing, then the she is here and hysterical and freaking out...Well yeah, why shouldn't she be, most parents would be hysterical and freaking out if they couldn't find their child and even more so if they thought she had been kidnapped from her bedroom.

I would like to know if SC told RC why she had to 'get her butt home'?

 

[Pensfan]

Wait - the father chuckles on the 911 call? I am at work so I can't hear it. The other day i thought someone kidnapped my son from the park as I took my eyes off him for two seconds. My husband and I went into a full panic and the sounds coming out of my mouth as a screamed for him where insane. My husband almost fainted. We found him, he was hiding but it was the sacriest seconds of my life!

He chuckles in two places on the 911 tape. Once after he described ordering his wife to get her butt home and a second time during his alibi of falling asleep while watching the Diamondbacks.

 

[Isabelle]

SC exhibited no excited utterances. I think it is those excited utterances are what are believed to be true??

 

[RachelMarie]

Also one more thing "if" it was a testimony that the cartel want if they in fact had something to do with this wouldn't SC already have talked to agents and wouldn't they think this could happen since he is now an informant and have protective measures for the family in place? So when when Isa went missing why call 911, couldn't he call said agent? JMO

 

[Mendara]

Yes the dad chuckles in the 911 call, he says to the 911 operator, (Speaking of his wife) I told her to get her butt home, haha.

:what:

I have to hear this myself, but why on earth would he say something like that? My husband would have been so scared to tell me he probably would have sent someone to get me and not told me over the phone and definetly not made a comment like that as if it was all my fault! MO

 

[jennapuppy]

They may have left the house because some bad guys know where it is. Just thinkin' out loud here.

The family never did move back into the home, correct? That would explain why.

 

[spoiledmom]

So is Isa a victim of a cartel revenge or a human trafficking scheme that snatches small children out of their beds in the middle of the night, takes them across the border so pedophiles can get to them? Or is this some new group that does a combo of drugs/guns, revenge kidnappings, and human trafficking of small children?

****Rumor***
I don't know anything about gun smuggling/human trafficking being related to Isa. I have heard that Sergio has connections to the cartel and it has LE concerned. (Rumor) Everything else is my own opinion as to why LE thinks it may be related to her disappearance. I find it crazy myself but I do know that LE is working behind the scenes and the drug cartel is a HUGE deal. The brutal crimes that they commit and the many innocent people that have lost their lives trying to stop them. It's not something that LE is going to go to the public with. If they have reason to go after them their plans will not be made public until afterwards IMO.

 

[Pensfan]

In regards to SC and his 911 call. I was thinking about his manner of speaking and what some saw as effiminate, but what sounds to me like when someone speaks in a very condescending manner. He speaks slowly as if he is talking down to stupid people. This makes me think he is a very controlling person and definetely has an outside personality and an inside personality. I think he controlled BC and the kids and probably thought he could control the whole worlds perception of him. I think he had something to do with this and I think his family was very afraid of him. I think they believe he had something to do with this as well. And not in an FBI informant kind of way. Just a domestic violence abuser type of way. JMO

I, sadly, agree with you.

 

[AnaTeresa]

Well, after the past 24 hours, I'm still up here on the fence. It's almost gotten comfortable at this point, ha. I can truly say in this one, I have no idea what happened. Others, I sit on the fence because of lack of evidence yet have suspicions. Here, this thing is such a tangled mess, I don't know what to think.

LE do seem to be turning up the heat, little by little, on Sergio. However, given how careful they've been throughout with their measured statements, I can't tell if they have a solid lead on him, they're trying to smoke out someone else, or if they're just shooting in the dark at this point. What a crazy case - it's starting to feel like Celina Cass, with the crazy theories and relative silence from LE.

 

[AnaTeresa]

SC exhibited no excited utterances. I think it is those excited utterances are what are believed to be true??

Not necessarily true - but excited utterances are admissible as evidence in a trial. It's up to the jury to determine veracity.

 

[Madeleine74]

I think I'll just watch and see what LE does, if anything. They are giving out clues about where the crime scene is (inside the house) and they are giving out clues that they believe the family (and specifically, the father) may be their suspect in this case.

 

[LisaB]

Well if he is trying to create a story line he is doing a pizz poor job by saying he was not off in the bedroom with Becky but was just a wall away from Isa's room.

IMO

Did anyone but me notice that Becky did not say she should have checked in on Isa before work? What she said was that she should have COME and checked on her. This STRONGLY suggests to me that she did not spend the night in that house.