GUILTY AZ - Michael, 44, & Tina Careccia, 42, Maricopa, 22 June 2015 - #1 *Arrest*

[Skeeter]

I bet were all putting too much thought into this. Theres no struggle in the car, outside of the car, and they searched the house. The car was unlocked which would make me think they were in a hurry or hurried off, but then again, no scuffle anywhere. If it was gang/retaliation I wouldn't think they'd be dumb enough to park the car in the vicinity of the residence. And if someone in the house is responsible, wouldn't they think to get rid of the purse that sat there all day.
Imo, someone dropped them off and went back home but purposely left the car where it was located. I still believe that the incident that occured in mesa the following day, that were not allowed to discuss, is the conclusion. Jmo

 

[ms_x_to_the_m]

Below is Link of the Transcript from NG's show -- which may have already been posted -- but I haven't completed reading this thread:

Couple Goes Missing on Morning Commute. Aired 8-9:00p ET

Aired June 24, 2015 - 20:00 ET

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1506/24/ng.01.html


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From the link above
"...UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The car looked kind of dirty, you know, kind of dusty, and not typical, you know, keys not in it, all the doors unlocked, ..."

 

[Treelights]

From the link above
"...UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The car looked kind of dirty, you know, kind of dusty, and not typical, you know, keys not in it, all the doors unlocked, ..."

Right, it said dusty, but it confused things when in the same transcripts:

"VALERIE PARASO, KFYI (via telephone): Well, right now, we know that they did leave to go to work at 5:00 AM. The boss says that the mother,

Tina, never showed up for work. And their car was found within walking distance of their home, covered in mud."

Snipped by me...
"GRACE: You know, another thing about this, there was no marital discord that we know of, and we`ve tried to uncover it, these two extremely

happy in their marriage. And when Valerie with KFYI says the dad was a fanatic about the car, that`s true. He was a neatnik, and she goes along

with it. They keep the car absolutely spotless, I guess, because of their every morning commute they`ve got together.

But when the car was found, the car totally filthy, covered in mud, not far from their home."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1506/24/ng.01.html

So what was the car covered in, mud? Dirt? Mud and Dirt?

Either misinformation or the Whole story isn't being told, which quite frankly, there's LOTS MISSING to this story, not just Tina and Mike!
IMOO.

 

[Treelights]

" Luke said the detectives noticed the car was caked with dirt when they arrived, leading them to believe the car was driven on dirt roads or through the desert.

"I will find them," Luke said. "

http://www.12news.com/story/news/local/valley/2015/06/23/missing-maricopa-couple/29197091/

So, Luke calls 911 to report them missing.

Luke also finds their car about 3 hours after he reports them missing.

It seems so odd to me that now he says "he" will find them.

When I posted a link up thread about how they (Luke and others) don't think foul play occurred, yet the car was found close to home,
and Tina and Mike haven't been found...

Either maybe he KNOWS where they are, or thinks he knows where they are that's why he will find them, hence them running off...

OR, people are afraid of retaliation, so they say they don't think foul play happened... Maybe they are afraid, plain and simple.

IMOO.

 

[Treelights]

I bet were all putting too much thought into this. Theres no struggle in the car, outside of the car, and they searched the house. The car was unlocked which would make me think they were in a hurry or hurried off, but then again, no scuffle anywhere. If it was gang/retaliation I wouldn't think they'd be dumb enough to park the car in the vicinity of the residence. And if someone in the house is responsible, wouldn't they think to get rid of the purse that sat there all day.
Imo, someone dropped them off and went back home but purposely left the car where it was located. I still believe that the incident that occured in mesa the following day, that were not allowed to discuss, is the conclusion. Jmo

And that does make sense about if it is true about what happened in Mesa that it correlates, then someone knows where they are, perhaps. They dropped them off perhaps, like you mentioned.
Thing is that incident happened the next day on the 23rd. Where were they all day and night on the 22nd and in the morning and partial afternoon on the 23rd?
IMOO.

 

[PoppyMcTwist]

From the link above
"...UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The car looked kind of dirty, you know, kind of dusty, and not typical, you know, keys not in it, all the doors unlocked, ..."

Who would abandon the car, but take the keys? Someone who used an easily identifiable set of keys to drive the car to that location and knew those keys could place suspicion upon a specific person. OR...someone who needed the other keys on the key ring. Or both

JMO

 

[Treelights]

I agree. I also have a few theories playing out in my head, but they are off limits as well. So, I will patiently wait for more info to be released. My gut tells me that this isn't going to end well for one, or both. I sure hope I'm wrong though. It's been a week. Where are they??


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Please give me some of your patience!!!

 

[Treelights]

Who would abandon the car, but take the keys? Someone who used an easily identifiable set of keys to drive the car to that location and knew those keys could place suspicion upon a specific person. OR...someone who needed the other keys on the key ring. Or both

JMO

Great Questions!!

 

[PASA]

It is interesting that a lot of us have theories that can't be discussed.
I think that is telling, in itself!
IMOO.

Good point.

What I found odd was local media removing stories and video about the missing couple.
Usually, video and articles remain on their site for a few weeks at least.
It was 3 or 4 days in and links I clicked on were already dead/removed.

I feel there is a lot more going on behind the scenes than we're being told, which is to be expected in a case like this.

This is just MOO, but if they met a tragic end it's most likely someone known to the family. If it was a hit or strangers, wouldn't they leave them in or near the car rather than
taking the trouble to drive it back within a 1/2 mile of their home? Why bother, that would take time and increase chances of being seen in a vehicle that does not belong to them (perps).

Another thing, if left in plain sight so to speak (deserted desert road), it would be easier to blame it on the human/drug traffickers, wouldn't it?

I am losing hope they will be found alive at this point, but I hope they are. It reminds me a lot of the McStay case, as others have mentioned.

 

[Skeeter]

And that does make sense about if it is true about what happened in Mesa that it correlates, then someone knows where they are, perhaps. They dropped them off perhaps, like you mentioned.
Thing is that incident happened the next day on the 23rd. Where were they all day and night on the 22nd and in the morning and partial afternoon on the 23rd?
IMOO.

Hanging out in the desert finalizing a specific plan, scoping out the area, getting a sunburn, etc. Jmoo
I did notice that tina likes caps worn down low with sunglasses.

 

[Treelights]

Hanging out in the desert finalizing a specific plan, scoping out the area, getting a sunburn, etc. Jmoo
I did notice that tina likes caps worn down low with sunglasses.

Good Answer!

 

[KristiA]

Please give me some of your patience!!!

I'm not sure there is enough to share, Treelights. Running pretty low here. [emoji6]

Media updates, FB page updates all seem to be dwindling.


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[IndianSummer]

Just

Originally I thought that someone from within the compound was involved because of the car returning and the strange lack of evidence about the timeline etc.

Then I thought maybe one of the two harmed the other and ran off and the family is covering for them...maybe...

But now I am wondering if maybe it was a gang/retaliation type hit and the family is just too scared to say too much about that. But it would explain why everyone was in the desert with flashlights looking for bodies so quickly.

I know but...
Why would a gang bring the car back within walking distance of the kidnapped victims compound?
It sort of helps tip off (early for the gang) that they are missing.
Or someone drove/left it there as a decoy then walked....
because they had no other way to get home...& not a very good plan.

JMO

 

[JoCoKSEyes]

Good thoughts on the keys. That may be a huge clue as to what the motive was. Safe key? Self storage unit key?


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[ohsocivilized]

Good point.

What I found odd was local media removing stories and video about the missing couple.
Usually, video and articles remain on their site for a few weeks at least.
It was 3 or 4 days in and links I clicked on were already dead/removed.

I feel there is a lot more going on behind the scenes than we're being told, which is to be expected in a case like this.

This is just MOO, but if they met a tragic end it's most likely someone known to the family. If it was a hit or strangers, wouldn't they leave them in or near the car rather than
taking the trouble to drive it back within a 1/2 mile of their home? Why bother, that would take time and increase chances of being seen in a vehicle that does not belong to them (perps).

Another thing, if left in plain sight so to speak (deserted desert road), it would be easier to blame it on the human/drug traffickers, wouldn't it?

I am losing hope they will be found alive at this point, but I hope they are. It reminds me a lot of the McStay case, as others have mentioned.

I heard some of the links were removed because it contained video of Luke who is still a minor and someone requested it removed due to media not having permission to interview a minor. I'm not sure how accurate that is but that is what my friend said her family is saying and they know them. Either way this case is odd...

 

[arizona sunshine]

IMO either a) incident on Fathers Day family gathering resulted in both MC and TC missing and family knows more than what is being reported (did MC adn TC really leave at 5am? we dont know who exactly saw this) or b) MC and TC planned to go missing

 

[PASA]

The link, Nancy Grace, CNN transcripts mentioned several times about MUD on the car, but the missing Facebook page for them said it was a film of DUST.
Mud, to me would require moisture of some kind. Dust, well, dust is dust...
IMOO.

If it is mud then I'd be looking at the farming areas where they irrigate, if it's dust I'd be looking in the dry desert areas.

I've heard dust and mud, don't know which is true.

Has anyone seen a photo of the car after it was discovered with the dust/mud on it?

 

[Treelights]

Good point.

What I found odd was local media removing stories and video about the missing couple.
Usually, video and articles remain on their site for a few weeks at least.
It was 3 or 4 days in and links I clicked on were already dead/removed.

I feel there is a lot more going on behind the scenes than we're being told, which is to be expected in a case like this.

This is just MOO, but if they met a tragic end it's most likely someone known to the family. If it was a hit or strangers, wouldn't they leave them in or near the car rather than
taking the trouble to drive it back within a 1/2 mile of their home? Why bother, that would take time and increase chances of being seen in a vehicle that does not belong to them (perps).

Another thing, if left in plain sight so to speak (deserted desert road), it would be easier to blame it on the human/drug traffickers, wouldn't it?

I am losing hope they will be found alive at this point, but I hope they are. It reminds me a lot of the McStay case, as others have mentioned.

The car thing reminds me of the Susan Jacobson case out of Roseville, California.
She supposedly was supposed to go grocery shopping, (not far from her home) and her car was found in the parking lot, no keys, and doors unlocked.
Her purse though was found in the car, but her wallet and ID was found in the parking lot area near the Wells Fargo in that Raley's shopping center.

It was like it was purposely placed there so someone could find the car and find her driver's license so they could put 2 and 2 together that this was Susan's car and she was missing.
Why take the keys? It was like the car had to be left there, to be found there. If the car would have been stolen from there, then it couldn't or wouldn't correlate to the story of Susan grocery shopping. The credit cards were missing, but not used. I don't think the credit cards were ever there. Why steal them and not use them?
Something Hinky about the Susan Jacobson case.
Something Hinky and strange about this case, too...
IMOO.

 

[Treelights]

Good thoughts on the keys. That may be a huge clue as to what the motive was. Safe key? Self storage unit key?


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Good idea about that STORAGE UNIT key! Maybe??
IMOO.

 

[arizona sunshine]

The car thing reminds me of the Susan Jacobson case out of Roseville, California.
She supposedly was supposed to go grocery shopping, (not far from her home) and her car was found in the parking lot, no keys, and doors unlocked.
Her purse though was found in the car, but her wallet and ID was found in the parking lot area near the Wells Fargo in that Raley's shopping center.

It was like it was purposely placed there so someone could find the car and find her driver's license so they could put 2 and 2 together that this was Susan's car and she was missing.
Why take the keys? It was like the car had to be left there, to be found there. If the car would have been stolen from there, then it couldn't or wouldn't correlate to the story of Susan grocery shopping. The credit cards were missing, but not used. I don't think the credit cards were ever there. Why steal them and not use them?
Something Hinky about the Susan Jacobson case.
Something Hinky and strange about this case, too...
IMOO.

Agree...it feels organized rather than random