GUILTY AZ - Sylar Newton, 2, Rimrock, 25 July 2010 - #2

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OH I am thick.
I see that, I just don't understand how you call 911 from one phone and get Sedona Fire District and call from another 911 and get YCSO? Both Dispatchers answered 911, which usually means the caller called 911? Can anyone help me understand?
 
zpz1 said:
Was camping something this family did on a regular basis?
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That's a great question that I would love to know the answer too as well. I would say double hinky if I found out this was their first time camping.
 
When my 2 year old was missing for 30 minutes... (in just a diaper) I first quickly secured her 3 year old sister so that I knew she was not going anywhere.

I knew my 2 year old was not very far, I had only been in the other room for a couple of minutes when she got outside.

Then I ran around frantically but systematically looking for her (most dangerous places first.) WITH my cell phone, calling family members (who were within 5 minutes away) to come help. My teenage brother was "stationed" at the driveway to ensure that she wasn't up or down the street and that she didn't come down the driveway.

If I had NOT had my cell phone or if I had NOT been in cell phone range...there is NO WAY that I would have stayed in the house calling anyone, rather than been outside looking!

I knew that she was very close, wasting time calling without looking only would have allowed more time to pass. I was 99.9% sure she hadn't made it off our 1 acre property. I had already decided that once I had 5 people helping me, if we didn't find her in 5 minutes, we were calling 911. I found her just as everyone else drove up. In between the horse pasture and ditch, next to the road behind a huge shrub.

Now, if I had been in Sylar's situation...

If the cell phone reception is bad there and you can't run around on the phone, I would have absolutely had my teenage brother call for me.

If there is no cell phone reception and you have to go find the camp host to call for you, I absolutely would have had my teenage brother call for me.

If my brother's teenage friend was an option that would be even better, because I would prefer my brother be helping me look...as my daughter would be more likely to respond to him than to his friend.

If they really believed Sylar had just wandered out of the tent a few minutes before...and was very close by.... having the unrelated teenager call while everyone else searches makes sense to me. They would not have wanted to stop searching, when they had someone else who could make the call for them.

Then again, I tend to see things differently than most.
 
Portabella said:
OH I am thick.
I see that, I just don't understand how you call 911 from one phone and get Sedona Fire District and call from another 911 and get YCSO? Both Dispatchers answered 911, which usually means the caller called 911? Can anyone help me understand?
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It's hard to guess without knowing what type of phone the camp host used. I'd assume the boy had a cell phone. MOO
 
If you are delivering first aid to a person you holler for someone to call 911 - in this case I believe the person responsible awakened the teens and gave them a story to relay to 911 (for whatever reasons) while the adult resumed or initiated their ''search'' in this case. Based on what was earlier stated the ''host'' site was adjacent to theirs so there was not a big hike involved to raise the host (from what I understand).
 
newone said:
If you are delivering first aid to a person you holler for someone to call 911 - in this case I believe the person responsible awakened the teens and gave them a story to relay to 911 (for whatever reasons) while the adult resumed or initiated their ''search'' in this case. Based on what was earlier stated the ''host'' site was adjacent to theirs so there was not a big hike involved to raise the host (from what I understand).
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I'm following you! Just to add another thought, in this case it seems one of the theories is that Sylar was taken from the campsite, so what makes most sense to me is to be able to relay as much information to the 911 operator as possible. My questions about the 911 calls come from following too many cases and one of them comes to mind where the mother asked someone else to call 911 who didn't even know how old her son was and along with other things, she became a suspect in his "disappearance". MOO
 
If LE even says at this stage that they are investigating family members, I think they have very good reason to do so. As we know from other cases, LE never says things like that unless they mean it. Investigating is a very different word from interviewing.
 
cluciano63 said:
If LE even says at this stage that they are investigating family members, I think they have very good reason to do so. As we know from other cases, LE never says things like that unless they mean it. Investigating is a very different word from interviewing.
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Exactly what I was thinking cluciano.

We can assign innocent explanations to every single facet of Sylar's case so far.

However, IMHO when we look at them as a whole, that is where the significant problems arise.

I also took note of that comment. They said are investigating now as opposed to interviewing. Also, they have given a lot of info out this week. They have said what they have done, who they have interviewed, and slowly but surely they have let us know what they are doing.

I'm actually impressed with the amount of info about the search for Sylar that we are getting.

JMHO.
 
We don't have this much info about Kyron and the investigation after more than 8 weeks...as we have in this one, after just one. :( Maybe if AZ solves this case soon, Portland can take a lesson from them...
 
Kat said:
I read that as Wagner is TP's sister? I don't know.
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yep nice catch thanks Kat....I was just feeling a bit snarly given that there's nothing about ''official'' adoption -- the sense that he's not truly related and someone is referring to him as part of the family
 
Kat said:
I read that as Wagner is TP's sister? I don't know.
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That's what I'm getting from the article also, even though it also says Sylar is her nephew which is confusing since Sylar isn't officially adopted. :waitasec:
 
The more I think about it, "investigating" is really a very strong word. Usually we would be hearing that "interviews are being continued" or "we are re-interviewing" some of the family members, etc...

Investigating really is a whole other ballgame.
 
'Night Panthera sleep well.

We will pray for Sylar too :praying:
 
MsFacetious said:
When my 2 year old was missing for 30 minutes... (in just a diaper) I first quickly secured her 3 year old sister so that I knew she was not going anywhere.

I knew my 2 year old was not very far, I had only been in the other room for a couple of minutes when she got outside.

Then I ran around frantically but systematically looking for her (most dangerous places first.) WITH my cell phone, calling family members (who were within 5 minutes away) to come help. My teenage brother was "stationed" at the driveway to ensure that she wasn't up or down the street and that she didn't come down the driveway.

If I had NOT had my cell phone or if I had NOT been in cell phone range...there is NO WAY that I would have stayed in the house calling anyone, rather than been outside looking!

I knew that she was very close, wasting time calling without looking only would have allowed more time to pass. I was 99.9% sure she hadn't made it off our 1 acre property. I had already decided that once I had 5 people helping me, if we didn't find her in 5 minutes, we were calling 911. I found her just as everyone else drove up. In between the horse pasture and ditch, next to the road behind a huge shrub.

Now, if I had been in Sylar's situation...

If the cell phone reception is bad there and you can't run around on the phone, I would have absolutely had my teenage brother call for me.

If there is no cell phone reception and you have to go find the camp host to call for you, I absolutely would have had my teenage brother call for me.

If my brother's teenage friend was an option that would be even better, because I would prefer my brother be helping me look...as my daughter would be more likely to respond to him than to his friend.

If they really believed Sylar had just wandered out of the tent a few minutes before...and was very close by.... having the unrelated teenager call while everyone else searches makes sense to me. They would not have wanted to stop searching, when they had someone else who could make the call for them.

Then again, I tend to see things differently than most.
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CP also had her mother there. IMO an adult should have made the call, realized that the call did not go through and then supplied the needed information.

How did the camp host get involved calling 911? Why wasn't mom on the phone when no one came?
 
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