MISTRIAL Bill Cosby -- Charged W/Aggravated Sexual Assault/Other Rape Allegations #5

[Donjeta]

I'm not sure if Goldie Hawn has ever been accused of defamation?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-delay-battle-wth-judy-huth-article-1.2545390

Bill Cosby failed Friday to win another deposition delay in his battle with accuser Judy Huth — but it wasn’t a total loss.

The comedian got a Los Angeles County judge to set a March 30 court showdown for his motion to put the entire sexual battery case on ice pending the outcome of his felony prosecution in Pennsylvania.

 

[Chainsaw385]

Okay. We are going to flip the entire scenario for Camilles possible point of view.

Okay. Let's say that men claimed that a powerful actress such as Goldie Hawn took advantage of them sexually while they were seeking to break into the industry.

Would these males be believable with saying that they were raped by Goldie Hawn? Or would most people think that most of these men would have slept with her in the first place; due to her prominence or money?

Imo. Man grope woman; It's rape. Woman grope man; It's not even mentioned criminally for the most part. Jmo

I think I understand what you are saying........and in a way agree if I understand your point correctly.

I'm sure some women have used their position or power to gain sexual favors but the men would be so reluctant to ever admit it that it is basically unheard of....and even if they did no one would believe them .......is that what you are trying to say?

In a way this is such a hard thing to discuss and wrap your head around that is has me intrigued.

I have started to type a couple times here and just can't seem to find a way to approach this subject without it coming across all wrong.Either I come off looking like a total pig or a sexist ....so I am just going to end the post and go watch Private Benjamin and Overboard.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I think I understand what you are saying........and in a way agree if I understand your point correctly.

I'm sure some women have used their position or power to gain sexual favors but the men would be so reluctant to ever admit it that it is basically unheard of....and even if they did no one would believe them .......is that what you are trying to say?

In a way this is such a hard thing to discuss and wrap your head around that is has me intrigued.

I have started to type a couple times here and just can't seem to find a way to approach this subject without it coming across all wrong.Either I come off looking like a total pig or a sexist ....so I am just going to end the post and go watch Private Benjamin and Overboard.

Lol. Private Benjamin. Classic era right there.

But No worries. Most people such as Donjeta and others know that this case is special in a way.

Sluethers may agree on 99 out of 100 cases. But it's always that 1 or 2 cases where different comments come out.

It's really a good thing to see that everyone respects everybody comments, even if it's not all agreed upon.

Now you may argue with so many sluethers on 1 thread. But be in agreement with those same sluethers on 1000 threads.

So no worries. Voice your opinions at anytime. We will respect your comments anyways. That is the price of the free admission. Lol. Jmo

 

[JeannaT]

Well, I think we need a touch of reality here. Women don't rape men, except in cases where it's a pretty teacher involved with a 14 year old boy student, and then it's statutory rape of an underage willing participant. It's certainly not helpful to the boy who engages in a sexual relationship with a pretty teacher - it's damaging, and so it's a felony, as it should be.

In other cases, men and boys are raped by men.

Women don't rape men, or demand sex from them for professional favors.

 

[Slebby]

Respectfully, JeannaT, I beg to differ. A man can be incapacitated enough by alcohol or drugs to no longer be able to give consent to sex. His body may cooperate where his will has been taken away through intoxication, whether through his own consumption or being drugged. As well, a man can be coerced by, say, a female boss or authority figure into something he would not otherwise choose.
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[Slebby]

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/09/breaking-wall-secrecy-sexual-abuse-men-women


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[Donjeta]

NORRISTOWN >> Saying “exceptional circumstances” do not exist, a Montgomery County judge urged a state court to quash entertainer Bill Cosby’s appeal of his ruling that rejected Cosby’s claim he had a promise from a former district attorney that he would never be prosecuted for alleged sexual assault.

“Instantly, neither of the defendant’s issues rises to a constitutional level that would create ‘exceptional circumstances.’ An immediate appeal is not necessary to prevent a great injustice to the defendant,” Judge Steven T. O’Neill wrote in an opinion filed with the Pennsylvania Superior Court on Wednesday.

O’Neill, suggesting Cosby’s appeal is premature given that he hasn’t even had a preliminary hearing yet, said Cosby still has multiple avenues of review if prosecutors present sufficient evidence to move Cosby’s case to trial.

“The defendant’s issues do not involve questions of basic human rights and are not issues of great public importance. These are unique issues, applicable to only this particular defendant with little chance of being replicated,” O’Neill wrote.

http://www.mainlinemedianews.com/ar...ia_courier/news/doc56ce2a9a8f310685750741.txt

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Yes, it's fiction, but the 1994 film Disclosure starring Michael Douglas and Demi Moore is a case of sexual harassment by a woman in the workplace.

A computer specialist is sued for sexual harassment by a former lover turned boss who initiated the act forcefully, which threatens both his career and his personal life. (IMDb)

 

[JeannaT]

Respectfully, JeannaT, I beg to differ. A man can be incapacitated enough by alcohol or drugs to no longer be able to give consent to sex. His body may cooperate where his will has been taken away through intoxication, whether through his own consumption or being drugged. As well, a man can be coerced by, say, a female boss or authority figure into something he would not otherwise choose.
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This is truly exceptionally rare, Siebby. Truly, exceptionally rare. Men do get too drunk to probably legally consent, as do women, but it isn't against the law to have sex just because you're drunk. Both men and women do get drunk and make choices they probably wouldn't have made if they were sober, that's true.

Teachers have had a distressing rash of having sex with middle and high school boys in the last decade or so, but it's incredibly rare that rape of a man is perpetrated by a woman.

 

[Slebby]

This is truly exceptionally rare, Siebby. Truly, exceptionally rare. Men do get too drunk to probably legally consent, as do women, but it isn't against the law to have sex just because you're drunk. Both men and women do get drunk and make choices they probably wouldn't have made if they were sober, that's true.

Teachers have had a distressing rash of having sex with middle and high school boys in the last decade or so, but it's incredibly rare that rape of a man is perpetrated by a woman.

You originally said "women don't rape men" but now you say it's "exceptionally rare". I did not say it happens with equal frequency.

Did you not read the article I linked above? Here's another to help you overcome those preconceived ideas about female on male rape.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/09/living/chris-brown-female-on-male-rape/

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[JeannaT]

You originally said "women don't rape men" but now you say it's "exceptionally rare". I did not say it happens with equal frequency.

Did you not read the article I linked above? Here's another to help you overcome those preconceived ideas about female on male rape.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/09/living/chris-brown-female-on-male-rape/

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Yes, I read that and have read other articles, including the CDC article on the prevalence of rape by gender and perpetrator.

I do agree, that sometimes guys get so drunk they are unable to remember having sex. "I've never gone to bed with an ugly woman but I've sure woke up with a few" is part of our culture. Yes, drinking heavily does make you do things you would probably not do sober, and wish you hadn't done after you sober up, and don't really remember.

When I said "women don't rape men", I said that in the way people say "dogs have 4 legs". Not all dogs, I get that.

Men ARE susceptible to rape by other men, and increasingly boys are becoming victims of women. Women having sex with a man against his will is exceptionally rare, and I stand by that.

And I wrote this in a thread about Bill Cosby, who is apparently going to get away with drugging God knows how many women in his lifetime and having completely unconsensual sex with them.

 

[wendybtn]

Just glancing through this thread, I do believe Mr. Cosby committed some amount of crimes in the past. I just don't believe he will ever go to trial and/or be convicted. This DA, Seth Williams, JD, indicted him, which is relatively easy to do. A trial and conviction are completely different. IMHO, reading the facts of the case, a conviction would be hard to get against Bill Cosby or Joe Blow. Who knows though?

 

[JeannaT]

Just glancing through this thread, I do believe Mr. Cosby committed some amount of crimes in the past. I just don't believe he will ever go to trial and/or be convicted. This DA, Seth Williams, JD, indicted him, which is relatively easy to do. A trial and conviction are completely different. IMHO, reading the facts of the case, a conviction would be hard to get against Bill Cosby or Joe Blow. Who knows though?

I think it's unlikely he'll have to answer to these accusations also. I don't know how many women he's damaged - the numbers could be astronomical. Some don't even know for sure if they had sex. I heard an interview on the radio with a former girlfriend of a Harlem Globetrotter player (can't remember which player) who travelled with the team when Cosby was also travelling with the team. She said the girls who knew him knew not to accept drinks from him - virtually everyone on the team, coaches down, knew exactly what he was doing, night after night, town after town.

 

[Trino]

Just can't get C off my mind. Do you think Bill has admitted anything to her? Is she comfortable that he not been faithful to her? Is she so comfortable in her present life that she won't leave? I just don't get it.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

I don't get CC either.....not at all. I believe she figured out what was going on long ago & decided that her lifestyle was more important to uphold than to leave BC. The $$, family & status kept her there and she willingly closed her eyes to BC's extra curricular activities, no matter who was being hurt. When I think of her I remember that pasted on phoney smile she displayed during the on camera interview of CC & BC a year or so ago. Chilling. She has willingly accepted BC for who/what he is and makes no apologies. IMO

 

[JeannaT]

Just can't get C off my mind. Do you think Bill has admitted anything to her? Is she comfortable that he not been faithful to her? Is she so comfortable in her present life that she won't leave? I just don't get it.

I don't know what she knew all along. I know a lot of celebrities/political leaders get a lot of sex on the side, and maybe she thought that's what was going on, and didn't know about the drugging part. The drugging part is what makes this story bizarre, a lot of men sleep around if they can. The weird thing is, I'm sure he had lots of willing women, it's a mystery he chose to drug them. Very disturbing.

I saw him at an educational fundraiser in Fort Worth a couple years ago, before the story broke. I've always thought he's a hilarious and very talented man, and had admired him. A force for good, it seemed, with all his work toward educating young people.

In his comedy he was unfailingly respectful and affectionate toward his wife, for decades. Maybe because he treated her with such deference publicly he also acted that way privately. Maybe on some level she feels like the women deserved what they got, I don't know.

At any rate, this case is just sad, sad, sad.

 

[Trino]

Aside from why C is staying, why he found it necessary to drug women when, most likely, he could have bedded them just on his importance, is another mystery. Had he done that no one would have cared. Seems C is in for the long haul. The behavior of both is beyond reason.

 

[sloane7777]

Aside from why C is staying, why he found it necessary to drug women when, most likely, he could have bedded them just on his importance, is another mystery. Had he done that no one would have cared. Seems C is in for the long haul. The behavior of both is beyond reason.

Obviously something is very wrong with the both of them, I'm amazed this took so long to put together , things just haven't gotten any better for sexual victims, that's exactly what this whole mess tells me its so wrong .

 

[Donjeta]

Aside from why C is staying, why he found it necessary to drug women when, most likely, he could have bedded them just on his importance, is another mystery. Had he done that no one would have cared. Seems C is in for the long haul. The behavior of both is beyond reason.

It's probably just not the same when it's consensual. He gets his kicks out of having people in his power.

http://deadline.com/2016/02/bill-co...suit-marty-singer-andrea-constand-1201711369/

Three weeks after handing Bill Cosby a win of sorts, an L.A. Superior Court judge today delivered a rebuff to the much-accused actor. The Cosby Show’s star’s desire to shut down part of Janice Dickinson’s defamation lawsuit against him will have to fight on another day. “The court is requesting the parties to submit further briefing,” said Judge Debre Weintraub Monday morning in a measured ruling on the anti-SLAPP motion that the actor’s lawyers have moved for in Dickinson’s nearly year-long case against him.

 

[Donjeta]

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment...l-assault-case-indefinitely/story?id=37317514
Bill Cosby’s next court appearance in his criminal case was indefinitely postponed so a Pennsylvania appeals court can consider whether to dismiss the case.
Cosby was due for a preliminary hearing in Montgomery County on March 8 to determine whether probable cause exists to move forward with the sex assault case.

http://www.thewrap.com/bill-cosby-accusers-file-motion-to-have-quincy-jones-wme-deposed/

Music producer Quincy Jones should be deposed in a civil case against Bill Cosby, according to a motion filed Monday by the attorney for Tamara Green and six other Cosby accusers.
According to new documents in the Massachusetts libel case brought by Green and the other women, Jones had knowledge of Cosby’s history of alleged sexual assaults.