CA - 13 victims, ages 2 to 29, shackled in home by parents, Perris, 15 Jan 2018 #1

[fruity]

Okay, this made me cry. Thinking about scratches and all the waste. This is beyond horrific. I wonder if people in Texas got too nosy so they moved to California. It seems like people remember odd details about them in Texas whereas they were more mysterious in CA. Just a theory but I'm wondering if they picked up and moved on and took things to a whole new secretive level after their move. These stories are confirming my thoughts that this wasn't a recent development in the last few years. ����

I think it’s definitely long term. The people who bought the house in 2000 were the ones who saw the scratches behind the doors

 

[Hell0000nurse]

One of the boys has glasses so he has to have seen an Optomotrist at some point. Even if it wasn't recent.

This is just speculation but but more than one of those children look like they need glasses too... so neglected.

That’s a great point. I wonder if they are old glasses from the parents or from a used store or dollar store. But it is likely they did take him to an optometrist and it didn’t raise any red flags like it would with a primary care doctor or clinic.


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[Francesca]

I am familiar with this, as I have worked with some elementary school aged transgender kids. They (who's "birth gender" is female), are given testosterone shots to delay the onset of puberty (breast development, etc) so that when they are 18 they can legally make the choice to have the gender surgery to become a male.

Hmm, I think that kind of hormone treatment would be a bit sophisticated for two people who have a pre-contraception era mindset.
I think the lack of development in the kids is due to basic old-fashioned starvation plus they've probably had all the usual childhood illnesses without any TLC or medical assistance. It is most likely a bizarre coincidence that two people who wanted their children to look like eternal children happened to keep the kids on a diet that arrested their development. It's also possible that the older girls had their breasts bound down in some way - those Vegas dresses have tight bodices, so they could possibly have been designed to press down small under-developed breasts.

 

[Safeguard]

Do we have social media links? I keep hearing about "pictures"?

This Daily Mail piece still has pictures and video ( the Elvis wedding thing *shudder*), the faces are blurred and stuff, but you can still tell something is not ok here. (imo!).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5272703/Police-13-siblings-chained-California-home.html

 

[flourish]

Forever children. Oh god. Haven't there been child abuse cases where the parents wanted to keep the kids children forever? It sounds so familiar.
From how the father's parents talk about him and their family. it sounds like the apple doesn't fall far. "A respectable family"? Dressed alike "for safety reasons"? Who says that?

Dressed alike for safety because there are too many for the parents to keep track of. I did this with my preschoolers for field trips but we also had a higher teacher student ratio. It's too bad families aren't required to have a good ratio for supervision.

 

[margarita25]

Hmm, I think that kind of hormone treatment would be a bit sophisticated for two people who have a pre-contraception era mindset.
I think the lack of development in the kids is due to basic old-fashioned starvation plus they've probably had all the usual childhood illnesses without any TLC or medical assistance. It is most likely a bizarre coincidence that two people who wanted their children to look like eternal children happened to keep the kids on a diet that arrested their development. It's also possible that the older girls had their breasts bound down in some way - those Vegas dresses have tight bodices, so they could possibly have been designed to press down small under-developed breasts.

Agreed. This is so horrible I can barely read here...ugh...

 

[Quinnie]

That’s a great point. I wonder if they are old glasses from the parents or from a used store or dollar store. But it is likely they did take him to an optometrist and it didn’t raise any red flags like it would with a primary care doctor or clinic.


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I agree and they wouldnt havent haven't taken the whole family with them for one child's glasses or it would raise flags why the others aren't getting glasses. I think likely you're right and they're secondhand or they're from a long, long time ago before they moved to CA.

It is strange to me only one child has glasses and I think it speaks volumes that it's the eldest son.

 

[Betty P]

My gut says that homeschoolers overall have more normal-type families than absolute weirdos. However, as a movement, homeschoolers have tended to resent anything that involves government interference with what they do. As a result, we don't have much in the way of meaningful data about how well their kids are doing educationally. I believe that there are only 2 states that require homeschooled students to participate in annual testing required of public school students. And even in those states, it is fairly easy for parents to simply fly under the radar by not making themselves known to the local school board. There are some studies that are frequently quoted by home school advocates, showing that home schooled students do well on college entrance exams. But, these tests are voluntary, so we don't really know if the kids taking them are the tip of the iceberg, middle of the road or fairly representative. And there are advocates who push involved parents to have their students who do well take the tests to demonstrate that home schoolers are better than others.

We really just don't know. But the scary part to me is that we just don't know where the kids are who are being hidden from sight using home schooling as a means of cover.

Thanks. That seems to be the case from what I've read so far. Only a few states require any reports on home schooled children. It's mostly a voluntary system., so there is no reliable data on how many kids are in that "system" or how well they perform academically.

It's alarming to think there are probably thousands of other children out there, being abused and locked up. Putting the responsibility on neighbors to report is no solution. Given the proliferation of guns in many people's homes these days, I would think twice about reporting odd behavior.

I can't believe our country is allowing this to happen.

 

[margarita25]

Forever children. Oh god. Haven't there been child abuse cases where the parents wanted to keep the kids children forever? It sounds so familiar.
From how the father's parents talk about him and their family. it sounds like the apple doesn't fall far. "A respectable family"? Dressed alike "for safety reasons"? Who says that?

Who made the clothes? (Trying to preserve my happy memories of the Sound of Music and the matching clothes Julie Andrews sewed for the Von Trapp children from the curtains...)

*Sorry if mentioned, having a really hard time reading here

 

[Coffeequeen]

I think it’s definitely long term. The people who bought the house in 2000 were the ones who saw the scratches behind the doors

I agree with you. It makes me ill. I hope that they are able to recover, but I don't know how you'd ever fully recover from a month of this, let alone a lifetime. 😩

 

[Hell0000nurse]

Thanks. That seems to be the case from what I've read so far. Only a few states require any reports on home schooled children. It's mostly a voluntary system., so there is no reliable data on how many kids are in that "system" or how well they perform academically.

It's alarming to think there are probably thousands of other children out there, being abused and locked up. Putting the responsibility on neighbors to report is no solution. Given the proliferation of guns in many people's homes these days, I would think twice about reporting odd behavior.

I can't believe our country is allowing this to happen.

A little off topic but this is awful- No regulation for home schooling. I know most parents mean well and want the best for their kids and want them to achieve great things but just thinking about the cases like this where you know they were likely getting very little of a regular education is awful. It’s making a choice for those kids that will have such an impact on their future. They really should have some testing or guidelines that should be followed. At least for the basic things like math and reading.


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[margarita25]

A very bizarre case. Makes me wonder how many are like this out there. uke:

Rsbm

(It really does...)

 

[rsd1200]

This link says they had "more than a dozen" children... if they moved to CA in 2011 or whatever, that likely means there are children that are unaccounted for.

I agree. I've been looking at these photos and there's different numbers but, maybe one or two stayed home? The 10/29/2011 Elvis Renewal video says they'd been married 26 years. So that means that October, 2017 would have been their 32nd year anniversary. They have a child who is listed as 29 so it could have taken approx. 27 months, if my cipherin' is right, before they conceived the first child. That's not especially long.

 

[strawberry]

I really want to hear fem some ex-coworkers of the dad


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[Quinnie]

I really want to hear fem some ex-coworkers of the dad


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Me too! As if his hair alone didn't scream crazy to his colleagues??

But seriously, I'd love to hear their insight. Everyone works with a weirdo... how did this guy fly under the radar despite being most likely the one person in the family with the most outside world involvement??

 

[margarita25]

Incredibly stunted - I saw a video linked earlier in this thread where a doctor said the 29 year old is physically similar to an underdeveloped 15 year old.

The video also shows LE confirming that three of the Turpin children were chained to furniture.

Edited to add the link to the video:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/video/doctors-speak-abc-news-siblings-233321898.html

( barely hanging in here, don't know how you guys are doing it )

(Something weird o/t just hit me...the Madisonville Jane Doe...feeding tube, do we have a race on her, going back, date...(genetic?) malformations...and the other Jane Doe with...oh our little, Smurfette sorry talking to myself, probably has absolutely no relation here, but it makes me wonder about some specific (Texas) UIDS, if they were in similar situations..do we have a time line of this family's residences? Tia. )

Eta: Smurfette is mixed race:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...em-UP10722-15-17-He-Smurfs-Me-TShirt-Oct-12-1

Madison Jane Doe:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...m-UP15905-2-5-feeding-tube-in-suitcase-Sep-16

*sorry for o/t )

 

[Hell0000nurse]

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(Something weird o/t just hit me...the Madisonville Jane Doe...feeding tube, do we have a race on her, going back, date... )

Eek, listed as white or Hispanic found in Madisonville Texas. Sept 2016. Deceased 3-5 months.


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[EA18G]

Some quotes from David's father in this article.

Father in California shackled children case originally from Princeton

http://www.register-herald.com/news...cle_1342a340-0457-5ae6-85ab-700dff188f5d.html

 

[georgiajean]

I think DT's father just provided a clue about the photos of the family at different places. It was to keep up appearances and keep the relatives appeased and off their back...
"David and Louise Turpin would take the family on vacations to places like Las Vegas and would send photographs to his parents after the trips, James Turpin stated." http://www.register-herald.com/news...cle_1342a340-0457-5ae6-85ab-700dff188f5d.html

 

[Quinnie]

Some quotes from David's father in this article.

Father in California shackled children case originally from Princeton

http://www.register-herald.com/news...cle_1342a340-0457-5ae6-85ab-700dff188f5d.html

If true, I think they're doing what every grandparent would do and that is get in contact with the 13 ASAP. I think it's wonderful they're having their lawyers contact Child Protective Services in CA. Hopefully this means that they will take on at least some sort of care for the children when an appropriate time comes.