GUILTY CA - Erin Corwin, 19, pregnant, Twentynine Palms, 28 June 2014 - #11

[Emi]

I think it is too early to find this. In pacific time zone it is 9:30am

 

[Emi]

Same for cbs8 will broadcast live

 

[kimi_SFC]

http://www.desertsun.com/picture-ga...604337/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Erin Corwin remembered at Twentynine Palms vigil

Pictures from the vigil, Jon attended.

The images brought tears to my eyes. Mr. Corwin loved his wife, and always will :moo:

:rose:


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[maskedwoman]

OT, Scott Peterson movie just ending on Lifetime now...

Hm. I rarely watch that channel anyone, and now I have another reason not to watch, I guess. So, anyhooo, I concede, NL could have known about that case. I just don't think IM was being truthful. Don't think I'm by myself on that one.

 

[Meemaw12]

http://www.desertsun.com/story/news...626257/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Cave team: Erin Corwin found in unmapped gold mine
Brett Kelman, The Desert Sun 10:12 a.m. PDT August 26, 2014

A cave rescue team said Monday that the gold mine where Erin Corwin was found is little more than "an anonymous hole in the desert" that has not been worked for decades and is not marked on any maps.

The mine, a 100-foot vertical shaft, drops abruptly from an open desert plain. It sits on federal land southeast of Twentynine Palms, surrounded by hundreds of other mines. Toxic air fills the shaft.

This was nearly Corwin's grave.

If not for the relentless searching of the San Bernardino County Cave and Technical Rescue team, Corwin's body would have lain at the bottom of this mine until there was nothing left to find. Instead, the rescue team discovered her body on Aug. 16, seven weeks after she vanished in the high desert.

"There was a sense of relief that we had found something," said Sonny Lawrence, a member of the rescue team. "But we knew we were not done."

SNipped

 

[OkieGranny]

http://www.desertsun.com/story/news.../26/erin-corwin-cave-team-gold-mine/14626257/

"It's just an anonymous hole in the desert, with no name," said John Norman, one cave team member. "It requires four-wheel drive just to get into that area. And on the way to getting there, there were a dozen mines just like it. It's like a table, perfectly flat, and then all of a sudden, there's a hole in the ground 100 feet deep."

 

[Knox]

In the end, Billings' theory turned out to be correct. Erin's body was found in one of the highlighted mines in the highest prioritized area. It was a gold mine, dug sometime in the '70s, last worked in the '80s, Billings said. The mine is not on any mine map because the map was drawn up in the late '60s.

"It's just an anonymous hole in the desert, with no name," said John Norman, one cave team member. "It requires four-wheel drive just to get into that area."

"And on the way to getting there, there were a dozen mines just like it," Lawrence added. "It is like a table, perfectly flat, and then all of the sudden, there is a hole in the ground 100 feet deep."

The sheriff's department initially said Erin was found at the bottom of a 140-foot deep mine. But the cave team said Monday night that the mine was actually about 100 feet deep and that the initial reports were based on inaccurate early estimates.

The mine descended as a deep vertical shaft that sloped slowly to one side, making it impossible to simply lower a camera in from the top. Instead, the team lowered one of its searchers on a rope and, as he dangled partway down the shaft, he lowered a camera and a powerful light to the bottom.

Ultimately, two cameras and three rescuers went into the mine. Each rescuer wore a mask to protect themselves from "bad air" at the bottom of the mine, but the cave team couldn't be sure the mask would be enough.

"It was scary, because the air was questionable," Lawrence said. "But because of the shape of the bottom, we couldn't put a camera all the way down. A person had to go down, and ultimately had to get close enough to see Erin to make the call. … The third person down was only (a few feet) from Erin and could make a positive identification that it was a body."

http://www.desertsun.com/story/news.../26/erin-corwin-cave-team-gold-mine/14626257/

 

[Bernina]

The other thread closed up on me, so I couldn't quote, but I'm not convinced NL would know who Scott Peterson is. He was convicted 10 years ago and she's what 24? So, she would have been 14 when he was convicted, and living in Alaska. My daughter is very close to that age and had no idea who he was when I asked her. IM would know, certainly. But NL, not so much I think.

EXACTLY what I posted a thread or 2 back. NL probably got that comparison from "Google" or *maybe* horse lady. That's part of the reason why I believe NL knew or participated in "something".

 

[Knox]

Surprisingly very little on Twitter about the arraignment this morning?I thought I read something about various news agencies petitioning the court to allow cameras?

 

[Meemaw12]

http://www.kesq.com/news/erin-corwin-remembered-at-candlelight-vigil/27729316

Erin Corwin remembered at candlelight vigil

Natalie Brunell, KESQ News Channel 3 & CBS Local 2 Reporter, Natalie.Brunell@kesq.com
POSTED: 12:46 AM PDT Aug 26, 2014
UPDATED: 02:49 AM PDT Aug 26, 2014

Video, this has me crying...So dang sad..

 

[moonbeams]

Surprisingly very little on Twitter about the arraignment this morning?I thought I read something about various news agencies petitioning the court to allow cameras?

It's scheduled for 1:30

 

[eileenhawkeye]

The other thread closed up on me, so I couldn't quote, but I'm not convinced NL would know who Scott Peterson is. He was convicted 10 years ago and she's what 24? So, she would have been 14 when he was convicted, and living in Alaska. My daughter is very close to that age and had no idea who he was when I asked her. IM would know, certainly. But NL, not so much I think.

I think 14 is more than old enough to have heard about a major news story at the time. The whole case was very well-known back then (and still is).

 

[Knox]

Ironic ... The court PAO's name is Christopher Lee?!!

https://www.facebook.com/SanBernardinoCountyDistrictAttorney

 

[Bernina]

I'm not sure if my logic is flawed but she either died without feeling any pain (one shot and she was gone) or she suffered a lot...she died quite slowly from wounds and exhaustion. I don't think Chris would do that though. If he had a gun then why wouldn't he want the death to be quick and painless? It's so hard for us to not know what happened. It makes me very anxious.

Taking that she may have been shot with a .22:
.22 cal slugs are one of the hardest to connect to a weapon. I'm not saying that they can't be connected, they're just not as easy as other cal.
You can cause a lethal shot with a .22, but you have to KNOW where to shoot and be precise. A .22 slug can hit the skull and deflect, travel across the skull under the scalp and exit 6 inches from the entry point. A .22 or .22 mag can just be angled slightly and ricochet off bone, creating a "pin ball machine" type havoc on internal organs.

Between experience with animals and a stupid ex-boyfriend who shot himself in the calf (bullet bounced off the bone and exited), if you're intent on killing something quick and painless, you DON'T use a .22.

If EC was in FACT, shot with a .22, the shooter more than likely had a lot of adrenaline running through their system, was shooting a HUMAN BEING, not an animal, and someone who was intimately known to them.........that makes for a pretty shaky trigger finger and aim, specially with a rifle.

 

[Knox]

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Date: Aug. 25, 2014

MEDIA ADVISORY: Christopher Brandon Lee to Be Arraigned on Murder Charge

Who:
Christopher Brandon Lee, 24, of Anchorage, Alaska
What:
Lee is scheduled to be arraigned on a murder charge in connection with the killing of 19-year-old Erin Corwin. The District Attorney’s Office also filed the special circumstance allegation of “lying in wait.”
When:
Tuesday, August 26, 2014 at 1:30 PM

Where:
Joshua Tree District (Dept. M2)
6527 White Feather Road
Joshua Tree, CA 92252

Case #:
FMB1400414

Cameras in Court:
All requests must be submitted to the Court Clerk in Joshua Tree. For more information, contact (760) 974-3048.

http://www.sbcountyda.org/Newsroom/...hristopherLeetoBeArraignedonMurderCharge.aspx

 

[moonbeams]

So basically we can't trust anything LE or MSM has told us, as it's all subject to change.

 

[77DarkHorse7]

BBM Ya... a LOT of these reports from all sources are becoming sloppy. They also say in this article: 100 feet down in the mine and all the LE comments say 140. We've seen other inaccuracies/typos/etc in other articles.

A lot of times I think the friends' "rumors" are more accurate than some of the facts posted by so called MSM.

Well, she was stuck on a false floor that was higher than the actual depth of the mine, 140 may have just been an estimate.

 

[Bernina]

The one huge benefit to the death penalty, in my opinion, is that while on death row he has very limited privileges versus general population. If he could sit in prison the rest of his life without any privileges then I'd be happy with LWOP. Personally, I think EVERY prisoner should be treated as they are in Arapahoe County, AZ. Pink underwear, green bologna, living in tents, no T.V., etc. Some prisoners live better than I do with all their amenities and privileges and to me that isn't what prison is all about. One thing I COMPLETELY disagree with is prisoners being allowed to get married. Chaps my arse! This is an entirely different thread and I'm sorry for my rant.

:blushing: um.....Maricopa County, Sheriff Joe's territory :floorlaugh: We don't have an Arapahoe county! But know exactly what you were referring to. It's all good!

 

[tvscum]

I wish someone would post the LAT and LONG of that mine so we can Google Earth it!

 

[rose222]

Taking that she may have been shot with a .22:
.22 cal slugs are one of the hardest to connect to a weapon. I'm not saying that they can't be connected, they're just not as easy as other cal.
You can cause a lethal shot with a .22, but you have to KNOW where to shoot and be precise. A .22 slug can hit the skull and deflect, travel across the skull under the scalp and exit 6 inches from the entry point. A .22 or .22 mag can just be angled slightly and ricochet off bone, creating a "pin ball machine" type havoc on internal organs.

Between experience with animals and a stupid ex-boyfriend who shot himself in the calf (bullet bounced off the bone and exited), if you're intent on killing something quick and painless, you DON'T use a .22.

If EC was in FACT, shot with a .22, the shooter more than likely had a lot of adrenaline running through their system, was shooting a HUMAN BEING, not an animal, and someone who was intimately known to them.........that makes for a pretty shaky trigger finger and aim, specially with a rifle.

This makes sense, Bernina. I wonder whether Chris had originally planned on simply shooting Erin to death and then throwing her in the mine. Maybe things didn't work out the way he planned. If he indeed used a .22 then perhaps she didn't die right away. I don't even want to think about him pushing her into the mine while she was still alive. Some of the statements by LE and now the message from Jon that Erin isn't in pain anymore leads to believe that Erin did suffer before eventually passing away.