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[bluesneakers]

Anthony Rapp says Kevin Spacey made sexual advance toward him when he was 14

Anthony Rapp, right, said in a report out Sunday that Kevin Spacey, then 26, made a sexual advance toward him when he was 14 years old.

“Star Trek: Discovery” and “Rent” actor Anthony Rapp said in a report Sunday night that he was 14 years old when actor Kevin Spacey made a sexual advance toward him, the latest in a wave of sexual abuse accusations across Hollywood.

Actor Anthony Rapp: Kevin Spacey Made A Sexual Advance Toward Me When I Was 14

Now, after the accusations leveled against Harvey Weinstein have sparked an unprecedented conversation about sexual abuse and harassment in the entertainment industry, Rapp said he feels compelled to come forward.

"And not to simply air a grievance," he said, "but to try to shine another light on the decades of behavior that have been allowed to continue because many people, including myself, being silent. … I'm feeling really awake to the moment that we're living in, and I'm hopeful that this can make a difference."

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

ALL FIVE OF THEM?

:laughing:

Blogs are really a reliable source for psychological theories, and my computer security completely blocked that site.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

rbbm

Powerfully said, Seajay. Thank you :goodpost:

It's been a man's world for a lot of years. Back then, this behavior was "accepted" (the casting couch) if you wanted to work in Hollywood at all.

Obviously, many of these victims DID tell someone. They either were not believed or it was determined the predator was too big and powerful to go up against with these claims.

Careers would be ruined. Names of the victims would be dragged through the mud. They would be black balled or black listed from working in Hollywood.

HW thought he was untouchable. If a male actor tried to approach him about accusations of an actress, (co-star, girlfriend or wife) the actor could find himself done in Hollywood as well. HW has been doing this for so many years and had gotten away with it, he wasn't paying attention that the outlook and prospective of that behavior had changed and not in his favor. He was that egotistical and narcissistic.

When you are sexually molested, you are first in disbelief. You are frightened and it haunts you. You try to figure out what you did wrong that this happened to you. You are also embarrassed and ashamed. So you don't tell anyone. You just want it to go away. What you find down the line, after years have passed and therapy is you were a victim. You did nothing to deserve what happened to you. This is when you find your voice and you finally say "Me, too." IMO

 

[Seajay]

When Ashley Judd was assaulted, she was a nobody, a nothing in Hollywood and he was the big, bad Harvey Weinstein, maker or breaker of many a career. Had she spoken up, she would have had to give up all her dreams.

I imagine once she started making a name for herself, she was filled with fear that if she opened her mouth, it would all go away in a flash. All her hard work would have been for nothing. The cost for speaking up wasn't fair but that's what it would have been, while her abuser wouldn't have lost a thing, and continued to enjoy the adulation he was getting.

I think that she finally got to a point, when Rose McGowan started speaking up that her name and career would withstand her standing up and stating it had happened to her as well. Those two voices became three, then four, and the rest of history.

It has been in open secret. Everyone knew about it, not just with Harvey Weinstein and James Toback, but many more. Men think they had a right to do this, it was one of the "perks" of the job and others made sure it was protected. It was blackmail of sorts, if they didn't comply and keep their mouth shut about it, their careers were over before they began. It's a sad truth of the industry and has been going on for decades. IMO

 

[iliketotalk15]

Anthony Rapp says Kevin Spacey made sexual advance toward him when he was 14



Actor Anthony Rapp: Kevin Spacey Made A Sexual Advance Toward Me When I Was 14

Wow. I'm actually really surprised about Kevin Spacey. Apparently Rapp's accusation spurred him to 'come out'.

http://www.justjared.com/2017/10/30...s-accusation-i-owe-him-the-sincerest-apology/

His full statement:

“I have a lot of respect and admiration for Anthony Rapp as an actor. I’m beyond horrified to hear his story. I honestly do not remember the encounter, it would have been over 30 years ago,” he wrote. “But if I did behave then as he describes, I owe him the sincerest apology for what would have been deeply inappropriate drunken behavior, and I am sorry for the feelings he describes having carried with him all these years.”


“This story has encouraged me to address other things about my life. I know that there are stories out there about me and that some have been fueled by the fact that I have been so protective of my privacy. As those closest to me know, in my life I have had relationships with both men and women. I have loved and had romantic relationships with men throughout my life, and I choose now to live as a gay man. I want to deal with this honestly and openly and that starts with examining my own behavior.”

 

[otto]

ALL FIVE OF THEM?

:laughing:

I meant to say that blogs are not a reliable source of information, and it is the first one that I clicked that is blocked. If the site contained any sort of researched, academic, peer reviewed theory, I would be able to access it. And no, I didn't click the others links. As I mentioned, I could see at a glance that the references on the wiki comment are not considered valid sources for a real theory.

:laughing:

 

[otto]

Now we know that Kevin Spacey got drunk thirty years ago at a party, and then he laid on a fourteen year old boy. I wonder where the boy's parents were, and why they approved of their child attending an adult drunken party.

I also wonder why all this didn't come out when Michael Jackson was accused of inappropriate sexual behavior. If the silence of victims is due to a fear that they would not be believed, why didn't they look at the Michael Jackson case and know that there would be a proper investigation?

 

[Miss Magnolia]

Was Weinstein addicted to Viagra? This entire investigation into all these allegations will be dependent on what the powerful media wants to report and not report.

The story of Kevin Spacey should not be about his personal sexual preference, but more so about approaching a minor. As far as this kid that made this accusation, there are many kids that are run aways and on the streets. If this kid can get some money from Spacey, I am sure "parents" will miraculously appear.

I worked at a high profile law office and years ago this young man once came in with allegations of being molested by Michael Jackson. I remember a number of our attorneys respectfully took him seriously and listened to him. His story fell apart and the attorneys soon found out these allegations were bogus.

I wish for victims to receive justice and healing but also that false allegations do not ruin the lives of those falsely accused.

 

[bluesneakers]

Was Weinstein addicted to Viagra? This entire investigation into all these allegations will be dependent on what the powerful media wants to report and not report.

The story of Kevin Spacey should not be about his personal sexual preference, but more so about approaching a minor. As far as this kid that made this accusation, there are many kids that are run aways and on the streets. If this kid can get some money from Spacey, I am sure "parents" will miraculously appear.

He's not a kid, he's an accomplished actor and is now in his 40s. He was in the original Broadway cast of RENT. He was not a runaway, not that that should make a difference.

 

[grammieto5]

I’m not putting words anywhere. You made a statement. I engaged you with my opinion regarding the topic of this thread, and a link to more information. We can disagree. That’s part of the point of this thread and the WS forum as a whole.

I’m saying it’s understandable TO ME why abuse victims didn’t immediately report it. I’m saying it’s understandable TO ME why someone in a position of power would offer a “hush money” settlement to shut down accusations. It’s understandable TO ME why all of this is unfolding like it is. Other actors have come forward on their own in the past and they have been shut down and shut out of the business.

It’s the “missing stair” theory in play. So, when several people find the courage to come forward and fix the missing stair ... there is power in numbers. Both to manipulate people into silence AND to seek justice and make a positive change.

That is my opinion.

Read the link about the “missing stair” if you want to; it might add some context to your questions and a deeper understanding. Or it might not. But that link and that psychological theory was the point of my post. It added context and depth for me in light of this thread topic. ymmv

Nobody’s attacking you or or family. I promise. At least, I’m not. At all. Perhaps you’re taking this too personally? To be clear, I don’t know you so it’s impossible for me to assume anything one way or the other about you or your family.

You wrote “they don’t understand the abuse . Grooming, manipulation, gaslighting, abuse of position of power and authority.” I wrote, they don’t understand “why wait twenty years? why take a financial payout to remain silent?” You were putting words into my post that I never wrote; you wrote “it’s not the victim’s fault” I’ve never said it was the victims fault. I also was voicing my opinion when I wrote my G-kids do not understand waiting 20 years and taking a financial payout to keep quiet. I know what WS is all about; I also know we are not to attack each other. Your words “ they don’t understand the abuse . Grooming, manipulation, gaslighting, abuse of position of power and authority” was a veiled attack on what I had written about my G-kids. On that we will disagree, everything else we agree on.

 

[bluesneakers]

Was Weinstein addicted to Viagra? This entire investigation into all these allegations will be dependent on what the powerful media wants to report and not report.

A timeline of Harvey Weinstein's three decades of alleged misconduct

1984: Tomi-Ann Roberts, 20
Late 1980s: British actress Lysette Anthony
1991: Laura Madden
1991: Actress Sophie Dix, 22
1992: Actress Annabella Sciorri
1993: Actress Katherine Kendall
1994: Actress Gwyneth Paltrow
1995: Actress Rosanna Arquette
1995: Actress Mira Sorvino
1995: Liza Campbell, freelance script reader
1996: Actress Judith Godreche
1997: Actress Ashley Judd
1997: Actress Rose McGowan
1997: Actress Asia Argento

Viagra:
The drug was patented in 1996, approved for use in erectile dysfunction by the FDA on March 27, 1998, becoming the first oral treatment approved to treat erectile dysfunction in the United States, and offered for sale in the United States later that year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sildenafil

 

[bluesneakers]

Wow. I'm actually really surprised about Kevin Spacey. Apparently Rapp's accusation spurred him to 'come out'.

http://www.justjared.com/2017/10/30...s-accusation-i-owe-him-the-sincerest-apology/

His full statement:

“I have a lot of respect and admiration for Anthony Rapp as an actor. I’m beyond horrified to hear his story. I honestly do not remember the encounter, it would have been over 30 years ago,” he wrote. “But if I did behave then as he describes, I owe him the sincerest apology for what would have been deeply inappropriate drunken behavior, and I am sorry for the feelings he describes having carried with him all these years.”


“This story has encouraged me to address other things about my life. I know that there are stories out there about me and that some have been fueled by the fact that I have been so protective of my privacy. As those closest to me know, in my life I have had relationships with both men and women. I have loved and had romantic relationships with men throughout my life, and I choose now to live as a gay man. I want to deal with this honestly and openly and that starts with examining my own behavior.”

I was surprised too. I'm curious to see if more people speak up.

I wonder if he will now try to reach out to Rapp? They've both worked on Broadway so I can't imagine their paths haven't crossed since that time. It must have been painful for Rapp if so.

JMO Spacey should have not mentioned alcohol or chose this time to finally come out. I'm not sure about his intentions with those two pieces of his statement.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

NBC/WSJ Poll: Nearly Half of Working Women Say They’ve Experienced Harassment
by Carrie Dann

WASHINGTON — As women around the country continue to come forward with accusations of sexual harassment by famous men in media and beyond, about half of American working women say: #MeToo.

A new poll conducted by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal shows that 48 percent of currently employed women in the United States say that they have personally experienced an unwelcome sexual advance or verbal or physical harassment at work...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/fi...nearly-half-working-women-say-they-ve-n815376

 

[bluesneakers]

That's interesting. I assumed it would be higher, but that's based only on my own experiences and I've mostly worked in male-dominated fields.

I wonder what it looks like if you break the main category of working women into subcategories by fields of work.

 

[ninij9]

I've always thought that the people in the 'film' business were pretty scummy. Gees, for many, what we know of their personal lives proves how completely dysfunctional they are. None of this is new, it has been going on for as long as movies have been being made or theaters played.

Look what they will do on screen for money. Imagine what they will do behind the scenes to get in position to make that money.

Adults can speak for themselves, but let's get the child rapists outed. FGS if they could only stop talking about themselves for one second and go after the kiddie pervs, I might have some respect for them.

I agree. This has been going on since the first roll of film was canned. What did everyone think the "casting couch" was, lol. That was bad enough, but MANY child actors have come out over the years and have been shushed, discredited or payed off. Yes, these scummy industry predators need to go.

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[iliketotalk15]

That's interesting. I assumed it would be higher, but that's based only on my own experiences and I've mostly worked in male-dominated fields.

I wonder what it looks like if you break the main category of working women into subcategories by fields of work.

I absolutely know it is higher than that. I suspect that many women don't realize what harassment looks like or some think women are being oversensitive about men's comments.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

I meant to say that blogs are not a reliable source of information, and it is the first one that I clicked that is blocked. If the site contained any sort of researched, academic, peer reviewed theory, I would be able to access it. And no, I didn't click the others links. As I mentioned, I could see at a glance that the references on the wiki comment are not considered valid sources for a real theory.

:laughing:

Nobody claimed is was peer-reviewed academia, LOL. That doesn’t make it invalid, and the theory is used a lot in larp, domestic/sex abuse recovery and bdsm communities. Of course, ymmv


[emoji202]MOO

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

I agree. This has been going on since the first roll of film was canned. What did everyone think the "casting couch" was, lol. That was bad enough, but MANY child actors have come out over the years and have been shushed, discredited or payed off. Yes, these scummy industry predators need to go.

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The phrase “casting couch” is a synonym created to define abuse of power, fwiw


[emoji202]MOO

 

[otto]

That's interesting. I assumed it would be higher, but that's based only on my own experiences and I've mostly worked in male-dominated fields.

I wonder what it looks like if you break the main category of working women into subcategories by fields of work.

And include information about how often men are sexually harassed by women, and when it was first safe for men to report sexual harassment and be taken seriously.

 

[otto]

Nobody claimed is was peer-reviewed academia, LOL. That doesn’t make it invalid, and the theory is used a lot in larp, domestic/sex abuse recovery and bdsm communities. Of course, ymmv


[emoji202]MOO

Good - then some blog opinion and wiki comment about why women report or do not report sexual assault does not have any bearing on anything.

When we read it in DSM V or other valid psychological context, it's relevant.