CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #11

[Texas Red]

Which part of their case presented in OS do you feel they haven't proved Texas?

I feel the prosecution is presenting a series of innuendos, over emphasizing an event such as the check writing and cashing as something only the murderer would do and hammering it into the ground, I believe they’re doing so because in reality they have no other provable evidence. We have no idea if the vehicle leaving the McStay’s home on the night of Feb. 4th was CM’s vehicle all I saw was some kooky professor rambling on about nonsense and then producing an image that he says could be a truck similar to CM’s.

The prosecution really has no idea where the murders took place, sure they contend it was at the home but in actuality they don’t know and admit it when pressed. I know from experience that the ping data can’t be relied upon because I was in the same area at the same time and the cell tower network was constantly dropping my calls and switching my phone to roaming by connecting to some distant tower.

The other problem is other potential suspects, DK was never investigated properly, I’ve heard no testimony or forensics that place him in Hawaii durning the time of the murders other than an online reservation that he made, there were no checks to see if he was actually on the plane, or where he stayed, really!

IMO, the biggest problem for the prosecution is the absence of forensics there’s not one iota of blood, DNA, hair, fingerprint, simply nothing connecting CM to the bodies, graves, or the murder scene, even if they knew where the murder scene was. The best thing going for the prosecution is their suspect CM, as can be seen from the numerous negative comments here about him, he’s certainly not going to be nominated for sainthood but if people are convicted of crimes based upon character and nothing else over half the people in America would be in prison.

 

[Tortoise]

I agree Bernina. The light found in the home looks more like a purifying light. The photo Tortoise posted doesn’t look like a UV “flashlight.” I was unable to find a black light “flashlight” that looks like the one in the photo.

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I don't think a portable light with a wrist strap is going to be used for fish tanks.

 

[Mony Mony]

Is Juanita CM only sister? I was thinking about Bennett getting picked up for questioning on the Hillside Strangled case. How very odd that she has provided alibis for two brothers for two different mass murders. I do realize they convicted someone else on the Hillside Strangled case but DANG!

 

[Mony Mony]

I don't think a portable light with a wrist strap is going to be used for fish tanks.

I agree. I don't think that UV light was used on fishtanks or fountains.

 

[Texas Red]

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Since the light is located on a sink counter next to a toothbrush I would say it was probably being used for dental hygiene in the spotting of dental plaque. Dental plaque identification at home: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

 

[Mica]

I don't think a portable light with a wrist strap is going to be used for fish tanks.

Wrist strap? Was this in testimony? Unfortunately, I can’t follow the trial like many here, so I might have missed it. I don’t see a strap in the photo you posted.

 

[Mony Mony]

And I recall Dugal testifying that the light looks like one the detectives would carry.

 

[katydid23]

Since the light is located on a sink counter next to a toothbrush I would say it was probably being used for dental hygiene in the spotting of dental plaque. Dental plaque identification at home: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

As long as we are speculating, it could also be on the sink because the perp left it when he washed up after his clean up was done.

 

[Mica]

Is Juanita CM only sister? I was thinking about Bennett getting picked up for questioning on the Hillside Strangled case. How very odd that she has provided alibis for two brothers for two different mass murders. I do realize they convicted someone else on the Hillside Strangled case but DANG!

No

 

[Recidivist]

When L & C says that McStay will only be shown onthe youtube channel, does that mean we can only watch it with the commercials and commentary?

 

[Tortoise]

I feel the prosecution is presenting a series of innuendos, over emphasizing an event such as the check writing and cashing as something only the murderer would do and hammering it into the ground, I believe they’re doing so because in reality they have no other provable evidence. We have no idea if the vehicle leaving the McStay’s home on the night of Feb. 4th was CM’s vehicle all I saw was some kooky professor rambling on about nonsense and then producing an image that he says could be a truck similar to CM’s.

The prosecution really has no idea where the murders took place, sure they contend it was at the home but in actuality they don’t know and admit it when pressed. I know from experience that the ping data can’t be relied upon because I was in the same area at the same time and the cell tower network was constantly dropping my calls and switching my phone to roaming by connecting to some distant tower.

The other problem is other potential suspects, DK was never investigated properly, I’ve heard no testimony or forensics that place him in Hawaii durning the time of the murders other than an online reservation that he made, there were no checks to see if he was actually on the plane, or where he stayed, really!

IMO, the biggest problem for the prosecution is the absence of forensics there’s not one iota of blood, DNA, hair, fingerprint, simply nothing connecting CM to the bodies, graves, or the murder scene, even if they knew where the murder scene was. The best thing going for the prosecution is their suspect CM, as can be seen from the numerous negative comments here about him, he’s certainly not going to be nominated for sainthood but if people are convicted of crimes based upon character and nothing else over half the people in America would be in prison.

Ok I'd like to take time to respond to each of your points but it will probably be tomorrow now, with trial starting imminently and having to multi-task with hungry people here to feed shortly too.

 

[Mica]

As long as we are speculating, it could also be on the sink because the perp left it when he washed up after his clean up was done.

Maybe a detective left it since Dugal said it looks like the kind they use. Was it ever tested for prints? Did they say?

 

[Tortoise]

Wrist strap? Was this in testimony? Unfortunately, I can’t follow the trial like many here, so I might have missed it. I don’t see a strap in the photo you posted.

Yes they zoomed in on the wrist strap and DuGal was asked to point it out.

 

[Mica]

Yes they zoomed in on the wrist strap and DuGal was asked to point it out.

Thank you.

 

[Tortoise]

Maybe a detective left it since Dugal said it looks like the kind they use. Was it ever tested for prints? Did they say?

It didn't belong to the detectives, Denys Williams who took the photos was asked.

 

[katydid23]

Mon Mar 4, 9:30:21am


AddiLawCrime: We will only have mcstay on Youtube, it cannot be put on the app, as cathy said, long story lol just go there for it.

 

[katydid23]

looks like no livestream this morning....;-[

 

[Tortoise]

When L & C says that McStay will only be shown onthe youtube channel, does that mean we can only watch it with the commercials and commentary?

Ah no. Please say it isn't so.

 

[Texas Red]

As long as we are speculating, it could also be on the sink because the perp left it when he washed up after his clean up was done.

Of course, and he was using toothbrush to scrub the house of blood.

 

[katydid23]

Of course, and he was using toothbrush to scrub the house of blood.

Maybe---they work pretty well in the tight crevices...