CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #12

[missy1974]

We are not on the same wave link today J for some reason.

I dont even know why you are replying this.

Of course they give witnesses transcripts. I never once said they didn't.

What I said she should have actually read the transcript before she spoke trying to imply her original story hasn't changed.

Imo it has. She mentioned nothing about the argument lasting all weekend. That's new.

I think arguing all weekend about not picking up ONE phone call is a bunch of baloney.

Who argues the entire weekend over one unanswered phone call, when they had no reason at the time to even believe CM couldn't talk to Joey at another time?

Like anyone would... if it was important Joey would call back.

Oops, never mind, Joey was dead.

Imo

If that logic applied with every witness I would not be able to discount some of the things that Mike said early on. I can though because of the situation, the stress, etc. She was how old when this happened, this transcript? Do you think she was maybe a bit stressed being interviewed by investigators? Stressed that her Dad was being blamed for it? Stressed at the situation?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia 2m2 minutes ago
Rodriguez asks if Jarvis is excited about documentary. She says yes. Then asks about how many interviews she’s given. Jarvis says three.

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia 48s49 seconds ago
Rodriguez has asked to approach the bench. #McStay

Dang, Rodriquez is on fire today!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

If that logic applied with every witness I would not be able to discount some of the things that Mike said early on. I can though because of the situation, the stress, etc. She was how old when this happened, this transcript? Do you think she was maybe a bit stressed being interviewed by investigators? Stressed that her Dad was being blamed for it? Stressed at the situation?

From my experience as a juror, I think jurors tend to rely on original statements no matter which side.

 

[citygirl]

Dang, Rodriquez is on fire today!

I love her. I think she is awesome.

 

[geevee]

I said the same earlier I don’t get this, by default this makes the daughter a liar off the bat.

And if Cathy claims the same then she is automatically lying as well.

No such phone call happened as Chase’s mobile phone was off the grid.

Yes, I think any argument over a 'phone call not answered' were the several calls Jarvis made to CM the night of the 4th that he didn't see until he was close enough to RC to feel comfortable turning his phone back on.

 

[missy1974]

From my experience as a juror, I think jurors tend to rely on original statements no matter which side.

Well, that would be unfortunate for Mike, since he told Tingley in his first interview that he drove by his brother's on the 4th or 6th. JMO

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia 11s12 seconds ago
K. Jarvis is going thru history of the business. They got into arguments bc she was fiscally better at running things and Merritt was creative. They butted heads on how to manage it.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

How could the argument have evolved to an "I told you so" over the weekend if no one really knew JM was missing at that time?

Exactly. It's ridiculous, and doesn't make sense.

This witness is very ill prepared.

He needs to get her off the stand to stop the 'bleeding.'

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Well, that would be unfortunate for Mike, since he told Tingley in his first interview that he drove by his brother's on the 4th or 6th. JMO

I'm not worried about that, if the DT has evidence MM was involved in any way I'm sure they will show the proof to the jury.

 

[citygirl]

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia 11s12 seconds ago
K. Jarvis is going thru history of the business. They got into arguments bc she was fiscally better at running things and Merritt was creative. They butted heads on how to manage it.

I have to say I have a hard time picturing this man as being creative. His primary purpose in life? His creativity? His water fountains? How come his creativity didn't equate to making a living? How come he needed Joseph, a much younger man, to carry him through?Wondering how the jury perceives this?

 

[missy1974]

I'm not worried about that, if the DT has evidence MM was involved in any way I'm sure they will show the proof to the jury.

It doesn't mean he has to be involved at all. I have said that before, that it doesn't mean there was anything nefarious about it. But it could explain a work truck pulling out of their driveway.

I tend to go back to first statements myself, because they seem to be a more 'true' representation and should be closer to the time of something happening. JMO

 

[missy1974]

I have to say I have a hard time picturing this man as being creative. His primary purpose in life? His creativity? His water fountains? How come his creativity didn't equate to making a living? How come he needed Joseph, a much younger man, to carry him through?Wondering how the jury perceives this?

All they have to do is show the water fountains... some of them are impressive! Joey could do it on paper, but Chase took those ideas and "created" them.

 

[UndiscoveredTruth]

Leticia Juarez‏ @ABC7Leticia 7s7 seconds ago
Defense is walking K. Jarvis thru same line of questioning as her daughter. How often they saw McStays, the business. They have not gotten to argument over alleged missed call from #McStay on February 4, 2010.

 

[missy1974]

okay.... I'm officially bitter with L&C that they don't have the cam's there today.

 

[citygirl]

All they have to do is show the water fountains... some of them are impressive! Joey could do it on paper, but Chase took those ideas and "created" them.

But didn't CM have his own business prior to that?

 

[citygirl]

okay.... I'm officially bitter with L&C that they don't have the cam's there today.

FINALLY. Welcome aboard.

 

[missy1974]

But didn't CM have his own business prior to that?

He did... that's how or why Joey contacted him in the first place IIRC to do custom fountains. Joey thought he was 'creative' or talented enough to do them I guess. I think Patrick said the same.

 

[missy1974]

FINALLY. Welcome aboard.

Not going to lie... I'm curious to know what she looks like LOL

 

[missy1974]

Leticia is spelling it Katherine? with a K? have we been wrong all these years? I don't know if I can stop putting CJ ...

 

[citygirl]

Not going to lie... I'm curious to know what she looks like LOL

Me too. This is awful , IMO. I need to see and hear the witness.
It's the only way to properly assess it. This is a huge Cluster in my mind.
Complete bummer. And, so unnecessary in this day and age.