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interesting comment re: cars…
I read someplace that she had been loaned the black one the day before but may have still had it in her possession on party night. Of course.Interesting, that particular sweatshirt isn't listed for sale in stores anywhere. I had to look at google images to find it - only listed on Poshmark and Ebay.
Do we think the sweatshirt was hers, or did someone loan it to her? Being an older item not currently for sale, may make it more unique and memorable. So she wore two different sweatshirts that night, but they don't know which one she left in - if any?
Where did you read this?I read someplace that she had been loaned the black one the day before but may have still had it in her possession on party night. Of course.
I certainly take it as nothing more than a coincidence. Odd though.
The Sheriff said so and it’s also posted in the link below from the Daily Mail. .And also on other fine journalistic sites.Where did you read this?
Actually, as tedious as it is must have been for them to have to address this after a multitude of Search updates declaring over and over that she went missing after being at the Campground, the PCSO was asked point blank days ago on their Twitter account if they believed Kiely was at the campground. Their curt answer was Yes.Another interesting/insightful bit I believe can be gleaned from this LE post- not only does it indicate that yes she was seen on video at the party (which I believe is a good sign that LE is receiving pics/vids from that night), but for those who have doubted she was ever actually at the party- LE is confirming here that yes, she was seen on video AT the party.
…At least that’s the way it reads to me.
Haha I like your way of putting it. I had never even thought to doubt she was at the campground, but you know... a few minutes reading here and I start to question everything that seems logical.Actually, as tedious as it is must have been for them to have to address this after a multitude of Search updates declaring over and over that she went missing after being at the Campground, the PCSO was asked point blank days ago on their Twitter account if they believed Kiely was at the campground. Their curt answer was Yes.
Yes, the world is round, too, and we did land on the moon.
Yeah, it does get a bit chaotic and upside down sometimes but it’s important to keep a grip and not get caught up in wild conjecture, especially when coherent facts are so few and far between. The Sheriff’s team has been very good, more so considering the rural county.Haha I like your way of putting it. I had never even thought to doubt she was at the campground, but you know... a few minutes reading here and I start to question everything that seems logical.
However- I do believe LE has been incredibly thorough and careful with what they release, so it's been easy to believe them from the beginning on this point- she was there, at the party.
Where she is now... Of course, that is what we all wish we knew.
Hmmm not sure it reads like that to be honest. "where Kelly may have gone after the party".Placer County Sheriffs Office now believe Kiely went somewhere after the party
yea this theory seems pretty accurate since the person got an opportunity because the girls never locked the car and then when KR was leaving to proceed home the person might have forced her to do something different altogether.the more I think about it, if the girls were going back and forth to Kiely's car to recharge their phones, someone was watching and seized the opportunity to get to her while she was in her car, inebriated and drive off.
Hmmm not sure it reads like that to be honest. "where Kelly may have gone after the party".
As her car is missing too then the assumption would be that she did go somewhere after the party.
Camille Clemmer was found safely. https://www.modbee.com/news/local/article264461421.htmlWhile it is certainly possible that she was a victim of a serial killer, there are so many other more likely scenarios that may have led to her death, that do not involve a serial killer, I would think that one would be well down the list. She is a 16-year-old girl who was at a very large party in woods with older kids, known and unknown, late at night, drinking alcohol to the point of being very intoxicated, according to her friend, and possibly under the influence of drugs as well, by choice or perhaps not, and possibly got behind the wheel of her car to drive home, or to some other unknown location. There are a plethora of things that could lead to her disappearance under all of those circumstances, and I think one or a combination of those factors is probably what led to her probable demise. While I am now giving consideration to the possibility that she died of an accidental overdose and may have been left where she was, or was driven somewhere that both she and her car could be disappeared, my strongest thought is still that she had a car accident somewhere, in or out of water, and still has not been found. My gut feeling is that she was not intentionally murdered by someone. JMO
ETA...I do hope that Camille Clemmer will be found safely.
It does seem like LE is holding a lot of information (and photos/video) close to the chest and releasing just a little bit at a time regarding details (necklaces, the hoodie, etc). A few reasons I can think that they would do this:There is a website for anonymous pictures and videos. Kids are utilizing this. Thus why only a statement about the white sweatshirt, not the video itself.
Sounds like LE are sticking to their word.