That's pretty interesting because red is my color (as in the one that really makes me look great). Huh. I never considered that I'm picking up more on the red than others because that darn dress was purple!!If you see it purple and other people call it blue, it would just mean you see a tad of red admixture in blue. Now, green is blue plus yellow, different combo, so your sensitivity to red color would not explain it. BTW, I'd also say, blue about her pants, but after all, it is a camera, not super sensitive.
IMO (as I've said in a previous post) it appears to me that her right shoe/foot is cut out of the shot and her left leg is caught mid-stride so the knee is bent and the foot behind her. The blurriness at her bent knee is just crummy footage IMO. Surveillance cameras don't take the best pics when they really should.Thank you. I've never seen olive green britches. They look gray to me.
I can see the [three] necklaces her mother mentioned.
Also, it looks like an animal is walking in front of KR. In front of her left leg, there is a blond head, a body and a tail of a dog or cat or is that pareidolia?
I don't see black Vans on her feet either.
Then how does one explain RA company logs, video footage, car registration, license plate. A company has to uphold its business practices. If her car was identified in the footage the company provided then how is that explainable?
YES. Even take just that night, with supposedly several hundred party goers, let’s say a lot of people drove together so there were 50+ vehicles (maybe a lot more??) leaving the party throughout the night, Kiely is the one person who drove the wrong way & ended up in the water — You’d think there would be several cars leaving at the same time & they would sort of follow the other cars out especially if she stayed until the party was dying down and a bunch of people were leaving.So far, I’m not convinced there was no foul play. One thing, among all the great theories being brought here, is that out of all the “decades“ of parties involving alcohol and other drugs at the site, there doesn’t seem to be any other incidents involving accidentally turning the wrong way and driving into the water. EspecIally if it’s true that Kiely knew the area well. There’s a first time for everything, I know, but . . . too many things not adding up, imo.
yes but both you and roses were saying you werent *buying* the last phone call with her mom and I just cant figure out what is suspicious about her calling her mom to say she was on her way. Again, IMO the kids HAVE spoken with LE. I know for me, its possible to believe that 99.9% saw nothing, and the .1% have already told everything they know. One thing to remember is that it was very, very, very dark out there and they were taking down the treelights as the curfewed kids were leaving!It looks kind of like Kiely is holding a large wallet/small clutch purse to me when I zoomed in? That would fit.
Agree she does not appear completely "effed up"--i.e. she seems to be upright, and as far as we know, she did not do anything in this store that warranted a call to LE to report public intoxication. We also do not know the local attitudes and tolerance for that sort of thing though. I suspect it's fairly high based on what we do know about the town. She certainly may have had a few drinks at this point. I don't know how to ascertain from a photo, unless she was drinking in the photo?
@ixschel--What I'm "not buying" is no one at the party having any info. I think the town is protecting their own, even if no one is directly involved in Kiely's death. I don't buy the theory where this cute, bubbly girl who was according to her friend SS talking to everyone at the party, just disappears, and then ends up deceased and no one saw her leave, no one can shed a little more light. Too many people in a small space. They mostly knew one another. Everyone when asks can tell us how impaired Kiely was, but nothing more? If she was memorably impaired at a party, I think someone knows how it ended.
RS&BBMIf by now LE, through scouring these records, has found that the service call was in fact Kiely, Kiely's car, and Kiely's friend, then IMO LE would have updated the timeline and interviewed the friend. They probably would not release interview details, but I believe they would have confirmed that this was a sighting of the actual Kiely.
There’s a world of difference between being able to identify a tornado and knowing foul play happened in a car that had been upside down in the water for two weeks. There’s a reason a trained forensics team is needed to figure out how the car got there and the cause of death.Maybe. I'm not a meteorologist but I know a tornado when I see one. When they said they saw something unexpected and concerning, I believed them.
I totally agree. But the photo has been cropped. and also totally agree it was LE who did it, they are not going to accept a cropped photo. Wondering if someone who was with KielyI'm tuning back into the case to see any of this stuff verified but for now, to me, it's in the same category as speculation about sus pixels in a still image cropped from a low resolution security camera of Kiely at an oblique (foreshortened) angle in the middle of what looks to me like adjusting her top.
I'm pretty confident it was law enforcement that captured and cropped that image from actual video provided by the store. If the store felt some kind of legal liability I don't know why they would bother to manipulate their footage when they could just delete it and claim it never existed.
Likewise if there is verifiable evidence of Kiely's CRV elsewhere the following morning I would assume it would be all over the place - unless law enforcement got to it first and gagged the people who had it. Possible but, to me, unlikely.
true, but that is not what he initially reported. It is MOO that LE knows exactly who was standing by the car and if this is declared an accident, they will NEVER tell us! lol. We will have to wade through SM for that when they come forward for money and attention after the fact.
I'm tuning back into the case to see any of this stuff verified but for now, to me, it's in the same category as speculation about sus pixels in a still image cropped from a low resolution security camera of Kiely at an oblique (foreshortened) angle in the middle of what looks to me like adjusting her top.
I'm pretty confident it was law enforcement that captured and cropped that image from actual video provided by the store. If the store felt some kind of legal liability I don't know why they would bother to manipulate their footage when they could just delete it and claim it never existed.
Likewise if there is verifiable evidence of Kiely's CRV elsewhere the following morning I would assume it would be all over the place - unless law enforcement got to it first and gagged the people who had it. Possible but, to me, unlikely.
The Nevada County Sheriff has already made it clear they are not commenting on the speculation coming from AWP.Why do you feel a roadside assistance company would have dumped the footage all over the place?
Roadside Nick stated they have the recording equipment on the vans for insurance purposes, and he parks in such a way to record his interactions with customers to protect himself and them. I'm not sure what the laws are in California about recording people and then just putting it out there without their consent, but it doesn't seem like a great business practice?
Personally, I'm not sure who Roadside Nick saw. I feel he was credible. He seemed calm, he didn't relay the information in the AWP video in a sensational way, and he responded clearly and confidently when asked follow up questions. I believe he had the interaction he shared. Whether or not it involved Kiely and/or her vehicle, I'm not sure.
It would be great if LE would clear that up when they provide an update.
Are you suggesting that he is waiting for Kiely's permission? I'm not sure about the law there but I certainly assume that any victim of foul play denied their voice would be more than glad for any evidence to come out to help bring them justice.Why do you feel a roadside assistance company would have dumped the footage all over the place?
Roadside Nick stated they have the recording equipment on the vans for insurance purposes, and he parks in such a way to record his interactions with customers to protect himself and them. I'm not sure what the laws are in California about recording people and then just putting it out there without their consent, but it doesn't seem like a great business practice?
Personally, I'm not sure who Roadside Nick saw. I feel he was credible. He seemed calm, he didn't relay the information in the AWP video in a sensational way, and he responded clearly and confidently when asked follow up questions. I believe he had the interaction he shared. Whether or not it involved Kiely and/or her vehicle, I'm not sure.
It would be great if LE would clear that up when they provide an update.
No, I'm suggesting that the roadside company would not have simply put the footage of a service call all over the place the way you suggested.Are you suggesting that he is waiting for Kiely's permission? I'm not sure about the law there but I certainly assume that any victim of foul play denied their voice would be more than glad for any evidence to come out to help bring them justice.
A person can be credible, and still be mistaken. As far as we know, NO ONE has publicly verified that Roadside Nick answered a call to KIELY'S vehicle, on any day, much less on the Saturday after the Friday night party, or that the two occupants of said vehicle, were Kiely, Jagger, both, neither, or any combination of. He has never even said that it was. It is nice to know that Doug, from AWP, verified his story as far as they were concerned, but without knowing what their criteria for verification is, which they didn't bother to share, it means absolutely nothing. I think we all would rather hear that LE verified his story. Teasers of possible Coming Attractions video don't do it for me. JMO