Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni Missing From Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee since 8 Aug 2022 #5

[EDGE1124]

do you have a verified map of where the car was just found? if it's where I thought it was, I agree it's unlikely she went off the boat ramp. and then it's still quite mysterious how even a drunk person (unless totally blacked out) could have mistaken that terrain for the way home. hoping the autopsy will clear up some answers

I think it is very possible to not realize where she is...just like drivers who are on drugs or drunk lose their comprehension of things and get on an off ramp to drive the wrong way on a highway. But usually a person in that state wouldn't (I'm guessing) call their friend to see if she needs a ride home or be able to send a coherent message to her mother that she is coming home soon....odd.

 

[CharlestonGal]

So LE just let people stand around and watch while they recovered the car?

Nope. They were very careful to screen and cover the scene. As it should be. jmo

 

[JurassicParker]

Nope. They were very careful to screen and cover the scene. As it should be. jmo

I watched a news broadcast where LE was blocking roads to that area. No one was going in.

 

[otto]

The car was pulled out in reverse - so trunk first. Which lines up with what someone else said that maybe the trunk was just covered since it was The first thing out.
However, LE seemed VERY intent on keeping the trunk area covered up. There was some time where both the back and front seat were above the water but were left uncovered. I could clearly see that Kiely was not strapped into a seatbelt in either the front or back seats. And if she was not in a seatbelt I would have expected to see her floating at window level while being pulled out.

I'm guessing that Kiely was visible in the car since the discovery of her car and her body was announced before police arrived for the recovery. That means she was not in the trunk of the car.

Seat belt is interesting. A seatbelt would not deteriorate to the point of breaking after 2 weeks in cold water. Did she normally wear a seatbelt, or was she of the opinion that they make no difference? As a new driver, wouldn't she follow safety rules like seatbelts?

 

[SteveP]

She charged her phone at 11 PM, her phone disappeared at 12:33 AM. I'm guessing that she did not leave all the windows down since 11 PM, and that's too much wind to drive.

Unrolling all four windows seems in line with filling the car with water to sink it as fast as possible.

You have mentioned suicide as a possibility a couple of times now, but respectfully, if that is what is being suggested here, there has been absolutely no indication that Kiely was suicidal. None. Unrolling all four windows also seems in line with trying to escape a sinking vehicle.

 

[Truckeeite]

I think it is very possible to not realize where she is...just like drivers who are on drugs or drunk lose their comprehension of things and get on an off ramp to drive the wrong way on a highway. But usually a person in that state wouldn't (I'm guessing) call their friend to see if she needs a ride home or be able to send a coherent message to her mother that she is coming home soon....odd.

Yea that's what I mean. Other descriptions of her actions are not consistent with being so completely out of it that she would drive into the lake. There are people, apparently, who can get so blackout drunk they don't know where they even are. She didn't sound like that to me. I've from the beginning found it implausible that she ended up in the lake by her own volition. But if an OD happened and they wanted to cover it up or there was foul play, then the lake was absolutely the easiest way to get rid of the evidence.

 

[Knox]

The car was pulled out in reverse - so trunk first. Which lines up with what someone else said that maybe the trunk was just covered since it was The first thing out.
However, LE seemed VERY intent on keeping the trunk area covered up. There was some time where both the back and front seat were above the water but were left uncovered. I could clearly see that Kiely was not strapped into a seatbelt in either the front or back seats. And if she was not in a seatbelt I would have expected to see her floating at window level while being pulled out.

I understand what you are saying, but the car didn't have a trunk, it's an open cargo area with a back hatch. I don't find it implausible she was in that cargo area.

 

[LeahBee]

I'm guessing that Kiely was visible in the car since the discovery of her car and her body was announced before police arrived for the recovery. That means she was not in the trunk of the car.

Seat belt is interesting. A seatbelt would not deteriorate to the point of breaking after 2 weeks in cold water. Did she normally wear a seatbelt, or was she of the opinion that they make no difference? As a new driver, wouldn't she follow safety rules like seatbelts?

I feel gross that I have to say this but I don't think safety rules were the plan for the night...

 

[Truckeeite]

Respectfully, there has been absolutely no indication that Kiely was suicidal. None. Unrolling all four windows also seems in line with trying to escape a sinking vehicle.

Sinking it as fast as possible is consistent with someone trying to hide evidence when she was already dead

 

[Gardenista]

Yikes

The team had been assured by law enforcement on the ground that the body of water had already been searched thoroughly, but decided to check again.

“Police told us they did a rigorous search of this body of water,” diver Josh Cantu, 31, said. “They gave us a grid map and made us confident we didn’t need to search here.”

Within a few minutes of diving, one of the team members, Nick Rinn, 48, found a body in a car close to shore.

Divers find body and overturned car in search of missing California teen Kiely Rodni

Divers searching for missing California teen Kiely Rodni said they have discovered a body and car in the reservoir near where she was last seen more than two weeks ago.

nypost.com

 

[Truckeeite]

I understand what you are saying, but the car didn't have a trunk, it's an open cargo area with a back hatch.

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Is anyone familiar with this car? my SUV has a pulling flap that covers the trunk area. It absolutely would be strong enough to keep a body in the "trunk" but also has gaps where a diver could see into it.

 

[Speculaytor]

I was there moments ago when the car was pulled out from the lake, and I noticed some odd things. I won’t speculate what these observations mean, but I want to lay them out here and see if someone else who was watching can verify.

1) the front windows were completely rolled down and the back windows were rolled 2/3 of the way down, like in cars with child safety window locks.

2) from the side view, Kiely was not in the front or back seats. LE was focused on covering the rear 1/3 of the car with a tarp where the trunk is in an SUV.

These definitely seem like red flags to me, but I hesitate to make any conclusions until more info comes out. Thoughts?
Anybody else who was there today that noticed these things?

WHAT??? You say the windows were down? This doesn't make sense. She would have gotten out.

 

[OldCop]

Do you happen to know if the gray line down to the water where the car was located is a boat ramp?

I was under the impression that the party was more up in the treed area not down by the lakebed “beach”. You can see the boat ramp area quite clearly in the satellite view on Google maps.
ETA Watching the livestream, I don’t believe the boat ramp came into play here. This almost makes more sense to me if she was driving impaired. If she drove down that dirt road where the red star is on the last map it wouldn’t be as apparent that she was getting near the lake because the feel of the road/dirt wouldn’t change as much as going from the paved boat ramp road onto the hard packed beach.

 

[SteveP]

I'm guessing that Kiely was visible in the car since the discovery of her car and her body was announced before police arrived for the recovery. That means she was not in the trunk of the car.

Seat belt is interesting. A seatbelt would not deteriorate to the point of breaking after 2 weeks in cold water. Did she normally wear a seatbelt, or was she of the opinion that they make no difference? As a new driver, wouldn't she follow safety rules like seatbelts?

There is no trunk of the car. It is an SUV. She would have been visible in the back portion of the vehicle.

 

[caradana]

AWP is not simply showing up with more sophisticated equipment. They're bringing a different level of expertise to the many cases they're assisting in. There are plenty of cases that have had very good equipment

Agree with that from @pizzaman12 - and aware that - perhaps not in this case, I’m making a generalization here - but aware that there’s a macho self-sufficiency in some law enforcement that makes them resistant to asking for or even accepting outside help. I’m in the private sector, not in LE. I hit up consultants ALL THE TIME. If I were in leadership in law enforcement and I came upon a case with a niche element, I’d ask for specialists to come in and help and I’d ask in the media hoping they’ll do it for free, or close. What’s niche? Involves a large body of water/scuba (these guys) … involves organized crime (the guys who did decades in FBI task forces and then went private sector) … involves the disappearance of a child from a busy public place (NCMEC, John Walsh) … involves a locked digital drive associated with a convicted pedo (several quiet groups in Silicon Valley) - there are a bunch of examples. There were a lot of wasted resources here in part because LE was not willing to go on TV and say, “we are not scuba experts so if you are, and if you are an established organization with a portfolio of work we can check out such that we don’t wind up spending all day rescuing amateur snorkelers, we have reason to believe she is in this reservoir - please come help.”

 

[ansrali]

there is a video (looks like from a cell phone) on NY post (not sure if i can post?) that shows the car being pulled out of the water. it does appear the windows are down in the front

edit: here is the direct link to the video

 

[Gardenista]

Some pics of the car coming out here

https://twitter.com/x/status/1561543337319882752

 

[getthefax]

I'm guessing that Kiely was visible in the car since the discovery of her car and her body was announced before police arrived for the recovery. That means she was not in the trunk of the car.

The rear of a Honda CRV (the trunk area) has a huge window, so she could have been in that portion of the vehicle and visible, IMO.

 

[Knox]

There is no trunk of the car. It is an SUV. She would have been visible in the back portion of the vehicle.

Thank you, I keep saying this lol.

 

[otto]

Respectfully, there has been absolutely no indication that Kiely was suicidal. None. Unrolling all four windows also seems in line with trying to escape a sinking vehicle.

If I was trying to escape from a car that was submerged in water, I wouldn't open all the windows. I would open the one window that I could escape through while preserving air ... assuming the electronics worked under water.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Some pics of the car coming out here

https://twitter.com/x/status/1561543337319882752

From the linked article:

“Now the water has receded and we’re seeing the vehicle went farther into the water than maybe [police] thought,” he said. “When a vehicle goes in the water, it has air trapped in it for a while so it will float for a little ways before it fills with water and sinks.”