CANADA Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #16

[juli99]

Also... yes my mistake it was 59 Bannatyne, not 62. Google street view named the address in the link I posted, and I never checked to see it matched the house. I figured the general area of the video was good enough.

 

[juli99]

Sorry, one more. I feel like he's wearing a hat with a brim. Like a baseball cap. But it's winter. Does anyone else see that?

 

[dotr]

Someone made a very important (AFAIC) point in the preceding threads. They mentioned the 'suspect's' turning of his head. I think it may have been @Satchie .. was this turning of the head at that specific spot because this individual already knew exactly where the neighbouring video cams were located? And he turned his head to avoid recognition? It would make sense that this was a 'hired hit', albeit perhaps not necessarily by a 'professional'.. and is it possible this person had tons of info, provided by the hiring party, on all kinds of things, such as neighbouring cams, different routes, floorplans, schedules of victims, habits of victims and possibly also of neighbours, etc etc etc. A plan was born, including walking as the method of transportation. No cellphones being carried, etc. No weapons.. just zip ties.. Etc. imo.

A map indicating where streetlamps are located in relation to houses, something a perp might study to know where to avoid the light and presumably more..
speculation, imo.
Give map a second to load, type address.
Streetlight Map - Toronto Hydro
''50 OLD COLONY RD, pole number P50''

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Sorry, one more. I feel like he's wearing a hat with a brim. Like a baseball cap. But it's winter. Does anyone else see that?

To me it looks like a possible hoodie & cap.

Still image from police footage at link:
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6284912

 

[otto]

A map indicating where streetlamps are located in relation to houses, something a perp might study to know where to avoid the light and presumably more..
speculation, imo.
Give map a second to load, type address.
Streetlight Map - Toronto Hydro
''50 OLD COLONY RD, pole number P50''

I'll map it, not sure whether it adds anything. Does anyone have the estimated video address handy?



Streetlight Map - Toronto Hydro

 

[Warwick1991]

To me it looks like a possible hoodie & cap.
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Still image from police footage at link:
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6284912

It could be a winter parka with a hood, with the hood drawn over a cap. Perhaps the wearer wasn’t wearing the hood - just the cap - at an earlier point in the evening, but put the hood on when leaving the scene. Perhaps the cap was part of a ruse of some kind.

 

[casesensitive]

Sorry, one more. I feel like he's wearing a hat with a brim. Like a baseball cap. But it's winter. Does anyone else see that?

I see a hat brim, but I don't think it is quite long enough to be a baseball cap brim. I also noticed that the upper body is slumped back and not aligned with the legs, and the head protrudes forward, more in line with the lower body. This is easier to see in a still shot.

See the video police are calling a 'valuable piece of evidence' in the Sherman murders

 

[Lexiintoronto]

I'll map it, not sure whether it adds anything. Does anyone have the estimated video address handy?

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Streetlight Map - Toronto Hydro

62 Bannatyne Drive (but some believe it’s 59 or 61) Google Maps

50 Old Colony is where the murders took place.Google Maps

Kevin Donovan believes the killer may have approached the house from the back.

 

[Lexiintoronto]

I see a hat brim, but I don't think it is quite long enough to be a baseball cap brim. I also noticed that the upper body is slumped back and not aligned with the legs, and the head protrudes forward, more in line with the lower body. This is easier to see in a still shot.

See the video police are calling a 'valuable piece of evidence' in the Sherman murders

I see he’s slumped as well, what if he’s wearing a small backpack underneath his coat?

 

[casesensitive]

I see he’s slumped as well, what if he’s wearing a small backpack underneath his coat?

It actually looks like he has something protruding from his upper back. You might be right--good catch. But that doesn't account for his curved posture, which may help identify him.

 

[Warwick1991]

I see he’s slumped as well, what if he’s wearing a small backpack underneath his coat?

The coat might be oversized and used to conceal weapons and supplies used for committing the crime. Something bulky is under that coat.

 

[otto]

62 Bannatyne Drive (but some believe it’s 59 or 61) Google Maps

50 Old Colony is where the murders took place.Google Maps

Kevin Donovan believes the killer may have approached the house from the back.

First thing that surprises me is that the video footage is so far away from the murder scene. Is this correct?

Is the theory that someone limped several blocks in the cold around midnight? Do hitmen put up with that?

 

[Satchie]

I also noticed that the upper body is slumped back and not aligned with the legs, and the head protrudes forward, more in line with the lower body. This is easier to see in a still shot.

See the video police are calling a 'valuable piece of evidence' in the Sherman murders

Yes, I think it's bad posture:



The chin jutting out causes/is then caused, by short, tight muscles at the back of the neck.

 

[otto]

That's a 15 minute walk in the cold between, 8:30 PM and midnight, and to then barge into someone's house and tie them to the swimming pool railing? Canadian weather is not so kind - cold is cold, especially for someone with a limp.

It sounds like everyone who was in the area that night has been eliminated other than this man.

 

[Satchie]

That's a 15 minute walk in the cold between, 8:30 PM and midnight, and to then barge into someone's house and tie them to the swimming pool railing? Canadian weather is not so kind - cold is cold, especially for someone with a limp.

It sounds like everyone who was in the area that night has been eliminated other than this man.
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Not just that, he is seen on camera going somewhere very close to the Sherman's home, and then only emerging from that same spot a lengthy time later. He did not pass by, he went in, and a long time later, came out. Presuming he didn't shelter in their hedge, the conclusion is he went into the home.

 

[dotr]

So many people at the funeral.... video at link.
July 14, 2019
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/national-alexandra-krawczyk-barry-honey-sherman-1.5178096
''Alexandra Krawczyk was paralyzed by fear after her billionaire parents, Barry and Honey Sherman, were murdered.

"I couldn't leave my home for months because I was too scared," Krawczyk says.

She's still afraid, knowing police have yet to make any arrests in the shocking case. But she refuses to let it deter her from ensuring the community projects in which her parents invested millions will keep going.

"We don't know where the next target is, right? It's an alarming situation, and I feel that I do have to be on guard.''

 

[musicaljoke]

It actually looks like he has something protruding from his upper back. You might be right--good catch. But that doesn't account for his curved posture, which may help identify him.

The poof at his upper back might just be the hood of his coat.

 

[Errrr]

That's a 15 minute walk in the cold between, 8:30 PM and midnight, and to then barge into someone's house and tie them to the swimming pool railing? Canadian weather is not so kind - cold is cold, especially for someone with a limp.

It sounds like everyone who was in the area that night has been eliminated other than this man.
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looks like his right foot fell asleep after driving so far.

 

[otto]

looks like his right foot fell asleep after driving so far.

I was thinking an old knee injury.

 

[Rush4087]

First thing that surprises me is that the video footage is so far away from the murder scene. Is this correct?

Is the theory that someone limped several blocks in the cold around midnight? Do hitmen put up with that?

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I don’t find it odd that the location is over a mile away. No perp would park just down the street.

What makes you think LE would release an “incorrect” location?

I don’t think anybody from LE has suggested that any perp “barged in”.

I don’t think the person in the video is noticeably limping. Imo they are striding.

Apparently this IS LE’s theory. Otherwise I don’t think they would have released the video

Why do you think it is a hit man (and why don’t you think a hit man would “put up” with walking away from a murder - at midnight, when it was dark, -16 degrees, and so snowy that nobody would be outside to notice them)?

All jmo