I'm sure we would have heard reports of that in MSM if it had happened... but I wonder if they wouldn't instead wait until this crime is solved, just in case police wanted to go back to check on something?
Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #8
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The press release said they would be demolishing it as soon as their investigators had a chance to go through it. Another example of a less than truthful PR machine?
You can rationalize it however you wish, because it simply doesn't fit your scenario. If this was a targeted double homicide, then Barry and Honey's lives should have been moving along normally in the days before. But the missed meeting is an indication that life wasn't moving normally, as Honey was not known to miss meetings, especially without giving notice. This piece of evidence certainly points more towards personal problems than supporting a planned murder. In fact, I have not seen a piece of evidence that actually does point towards a double murder. The early statements from the independent investigators said "There is evidence that their wrists MAY have been tied together". What else? Thousands of hours of security footage yields nothing? No fingerprints or DNA that we've heard of? No forced entry? No witnesses? I find it astonishing that the majority of people just buy in to whatever line TPS feeds them.
So maybe after getting advice/guidance FROM their investigators, they decided to hold off until the case is solved? I know that if it were my family, I would not be demolishing the crimescene until it was solved. And, at the time of the murders, I may have been so revolted that I would have said I *would* do it as soon as 'investigated'..., but then after considering, surely would have changed it to 'solved'. It wouldn't be like I needed the money to pay for the hefty funeral service or anything, so why NOT wait? (Unless it starts taking years or something!) How about you, if it were *your* family, would you demolish it right away? Would you perhaps say things right off the bat that may be more deeply considered a little later when emotions aren't running so heavy? Or not?
Are you kidding me? You think because TPS hasn't announced that they have prints and DNA, that there are none? Of *course* they have prints and DNA, and how long do you suppose it might take to match all of those up with people who were known to have been in the home in the days and weeks prior to the murders? How long to view and REview thousands of hours of security footage, and how do you *know* all of that has yielded nothing, not to mention interviews with hundreds of people and reading thousands of pages of documents?
Since when do police tell us what they see on security footage? Unless they require the public's assistance with identifying a person or a vehicle, there wouldn't be a need for them to share that information, would there be? TPS has actually been rather tight-lipped, so not a whole lot to 'buy in to'... other than the fact they declared it a double homicide after taking 6 weeks of their time to come to that determination (as opposed to what first glance may have suggested during the first couple of hours)... and said declaration made knowing the public has a huge interest in this case, the media is all over it, AND the family never said they demanded a certain determination, they only asked for a thorough investigation.
'in fact, I have not seen piece of evidence that actually does point towards a double murder.'
Why do YOU think that YOU WOULD see 'evidence'??
How do you *know* that Honey missing a meeting 'isn't a coincidence'??
You didn't answer that humdinger of a question.
Honey was 70 years old, people of all ages forget occasionally. She was very busy, it slipped her mind.
IMO, it only points to 'personal problems' when they exist. AFAIK, Honeys' problems were scheduling her very busy life, seeing a newborn grandchild and catching a flight in a few days time.
Now, am I within the Shermans' 'inner circle' and SHOULD/DO I know her life?
Nope.
I find your posts very interesting, extremely similar to those of KW.
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Yes it’s perfectly understandable why the family might’ve immediately wanted to demolish the home. They grew up in that house, family functions were held there, cherished memories of their parents living in that home.... Overlay that with the scenario of what suddenly occured and what is left but a very physical reminder of a cold, calculating murderer who took their lives. Much like the scene of a fatal vehicle accident, the significance of the family home changes.
I agree, they may have been advised to hold off as the crime scene can serve a future purpose. Possibly even for juries to be given a walk through.
@ Andreww
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I detect a certain level of hostility and animosity toward the Sherman children in some of your posts. Is there a reason for that? I’ve noticed nothing to indicate they’re deserving of any public wrath whatsoever. Quite the opposite actually, they’ve maintained a high level of dignity in what must be a very difficult time in their lives.
Coincidences are just that. They happen infrequently. Honey didn't miss meetings, and she'd never been murdered, yet those two things happened in less than 48 hours. Are they related? I can't tell you for sure, but rather than blowing it off as a coincidence, I'd be doing my damndest to find out exactly why she missed that meeting. Answer that and there is a pretty decent chance that you might find the answer to this mystery. My guess is that cell phone records would show that at the time of that meeting that Honey was at home and that Barry was right there with her.
Another thing that I find interesting is the fact that the meeting with the architect took place at Barry's office. Why? Why not have it at your home? It was at the end of the day, why make your wife drive all the way there and all the way home when Barry could have simply come home for the meeting? I honestly feel that Barry wasn't onboard with the project, he wasn't excited enough to duck out early for the meeting. Perhaps Honey sprung the meeting on him, ambushed him at his office, knowing that Barry wouldn't show his true colours among his peers.
As far as Kerry and I being on the same page, I think if you read back you will find that this has been my stance long before Kerry showed up here. In fact, two weeks after the murders, Greenspan put out his first press release, I predicted exactly what I thought would happen, and I couldn't have been more on the money. The media, the police, and the family's legal teams are now all on the same page, yet the only evidence they've given to support their evidence is that their may or may not have been marks on the victims wrists. Thats it. I say that if those marks had been even remotely obvious, detectives on the scene would have noticed them and would not have jumped to the M/S theory so quickly. So what happened?
I believe that their might have been some injuries to Honey's (and possibly Barry's) wrists, incurred when their argument turned violent. The coroner noticed these marks and removed the skin for further testing. The family's team of investigators (hired specifically to prove this wasn't M/S) jumped all over the fact that the skin had been removed. Simple as that.
Explain to me how on earth the family's team, based upon that one piece of evidence, could jump to the conclusion that there were multiple intruders? This is all so far fetched.
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Barry and Honey Sherman sued builders of North York home | The Star
Tues., Dec. 19, 2017
(There maybe a reason, The Star came up with this article ..., IMO.)
When Barry and Honey Sherman bought their North York property in 1985, they planned to spend $2.3 million to build their dream home.
But they noticed problems with the home within months of moving in, in 1991, with Barry describing it as “a disaster.”
After litigation against the house’s designers and builders, they wound up recouping $2 million of the contracted amount to construct the home, according to a 2006 judgment.
The house near Bayview Ave. and Highway 401 was listed for sale this month at $6.9 million.
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They went on to sue at least five of the people and companies involved in the home’s design and construction, including Jack Winston Designs, Thomas Marzotto Architects and Ewing Construction.
All but two settled.
The remaining two defendants, 21 Degrees Heating and Air Conditioning and Walter Kenyon of Walter Kenyon Designs, had designed the home’s heating and air conditioning system.
The Shermans sued 21 Degrees and Kenyon for negligence related to the design of the HVAC system, and 21 Degrees for breach of contract.
Tues., Dec. 19, 2017
(There maybe a reason, The Star came up with this article ..., IMO.)
When Barry and Honey Sherman bought their North York property in 1985, they planned to spend $2.3 million to build their dream home.
But they noticed problems with the home within months of moving in, in 1991, with Barry describing it as “a disaster.”
After litigation against the house’s designers and builders, they wound up recouping $2 million of the contracted amount to construct the home, according to a 2006 judgment.
The house near Bayview Ave. and Highway 401 was listed for sale this month at $6.9 million.
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They went on to sue at least five of the people and companies involved in the home’s design and construction, including Jack Winston Designs, Thomas Marzotto Architects and Ewing Construction.
All but two settled.
The remaining two defendants, 21 Degrees Heating and Air Conditioning and Walter Kenyon of Walter Kenyon Designs, had designed the home’s heating and air conditioning system.
The Shermans sued 21 Degrees and Kenyon for negligence related to the design of the HVAC system, and 21 Degrees for breach of contract.
I'll tell you something. My brother committed suicide several years ago. He had a beautiful wife, 3 great boys, a wonderful home with a beautiful pool. He had a loving family on both sides, and he was by all accounts a very happy person. The night that I got the call that he was gone, like the Sherman kids, I was adamant that something nefarious had happened to him. I'd likely still believe that if he hadn't left a number of letters. What I am saying is that sometimes things happen that you just can't explain, and that sometimes you really don't know a person no matter how close you are. Now if my brother hadn't left notes and I had unlimited funds, I could have put together my own investigation team and I could have used the press to further my story, but I would have been wrong wouldn't I? I know how they feel, but no matter what they say or what their friends and colleagues say, I know more than probably anybody here that they are likely wrong.
I'm not hostile at the Sherman children, but I believe by now they are probably aware of what the truth might be. Their own investigation seems to be all but done, cops have all but given up, no rewards, no pleas for clues or witnesses, and basically nothing from the media. I think that their investigation was nothing more than a PR campaign.
And despite all this Barry still didn't want to move.
Maybe she got a stomach ache, Maybe a friend dropped over to chat. Maybe she spilled a bunch of stuff and now had to clean it up. Maybe she forgot at the last minute. Maybe someone called her on the phone and the time went more than she realized.
Who knows. I am simply writing things that have happened to me
Don't kid yourself, Honey was a high powered business woman. She wouldn't forget a meeting.
Ita.
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I would say: because of this (maybe).
Not necessarily. She could have had her mind focused on something else. A lot was happening. I imagine sometimes things happen . Nobodies life runs like clockwork.
What does he care. It isn’t as if he is turning a wrench to fix the plumbing. He was at his office hours a day.
He can call people to deal with any issue he had.
I believe its stated in the McLeans article that he did not want to move. Also states that Honey wanted a real pool and he told her they couldn't afford it.
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While he said he was still reluctant to talk to me, he didn’t explain why he’d changed his mind. Perhaps he was hoping to answer some of the accusations that had already appeared in print. Perhaps Honey had twisted his arm.
How Barry Sherman built his multibillion-dollar fortune
Do you have a link to that, please?
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