Found Deceased Canada - Jessica Rowe, 31, Drumbo, Ont, 6 Aug 2016

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i found this article...

What are coroners?
Coroners are medical doctors with specialized death investigation training, who have been appointed to investigate sudden deaths as mandated by the Coroners Act.


What are pathologists and forensic pathologists?

Pathologists are medical doctors who are experts in disease and injury. Forensic pathologists have further training and are experts in disease and injury that result in sudden death. Pathologists and forensic pathologists are the medical doctors who perform autopsies, when required. Forensic pathologists may also be appointed as coroners to investigate cases of suspicious death.


What is a death investigation?

A death investigation is a process whereby a coroner or forensic pathologist seeks to understand how and why a person died. A coroner or forensic pathologist must answer five questions when investigating a death:


  • Who (identity of the deceased)
  • When (date of death)
  • Where (location of death)
  • How (medical cause of death)
  • By what means (natural causes, accident, homicide, suicide or undetermined)***
Information may be obtained from several sources including, but not limited to family, co-workers, neighbours, doctors, hospital records, police and other emergency service workers. Contact with family is vital as they often have important information that can aid the investigation.


How are police involved?
Police are usually among the first responders at a death scene. The Coroners Act states that coroners may request police assistance with investigations.


Why is a coroner called?
A coroner is called to investigate deaths that appear to be from unnatural causes or natural deaths that occur suddenly or unexpectedly. Additionally, a coroner may become involved when concerns are raised regarding the care provided to an individual prior to death.
http://www.mcscs.jus.gov.on.ca/engl...onersInvestigations/OCC_common_questions.html

I guess this (*** above) is what police were referring to when they were reported as saying, "“They need to find an answer as to why it happened,” said OPP Const. Lisa Narancsik."? (Could they actually still not know for sure whether it is homicide, accident, or suicide yet?) (http://www.woodstocksentinelreview....l-takes-place-on-tuesday-evening-in-cambridge)
 
Thanks for the updates Nola1140 & everyone. I didn't know the time was 6:30 before you mentioned it.
fyi, sunrise that day was reported as 6:30 am. http://www.sunrise-and-sunset.com/en/sun/france/paris/2016/august

Just a couple questions. I know not everyone takes a formal maternity leave, but aren't they still 1 year long? Unless she left work early before the baby's birth, her one yr wouldn't be up. Then again, maybe no mat leave.

You can take up to one year for a mat leave and the company MUST guarantee you a job upon your return. The problem is that a lot of women can't take a full year because the either don't get EIC after 6 months or the benefit isn't enough to cover costs. I can't remember if EIC terminates after 6 months.
 
i found this article...


http://www.mcscs.jus.gov.on.ca/engl...onersInvestigations/OCC_common_questions.html

I guess this (*** above) is what police were referring to when they were reported as saying, "“They need to find an answer as to why it happened,” said OPP Const. Lisa Narancsik."? (Could they actually still not know for sure whether it is homicide, accident, or suicide yet?) (http://www.woodstocksentinelreview....l-takes-place-on-tuesday-evening-in-cambridge)

Not necessarily related but another case in Toronto I read it takes a long time to get toxicology reports back. Here is an interesting article though not necessarily Canadian:

"On television crime shows, the results of toxicology tests are spewed out at warp speed, sometimes available even before the autopsy is complete.In real life, toxicology test results take much longer."Some of the tests take days, weeks, months," says Alan Hall, MD, a board-certified toxicologist and consultant in Laramie, Wyo. The final toxicology report, he says, draws not only from multiple test results and confirmation of the results, but also on the clinical experience of the toxicologists and pathologists involved in the investigation, as well as field work."..."Experts have to determine if the drug or other substances found in the specimens are a therapeutic dose, a toxic dose, or a lethal dose -- whether they contributed to the death or caused the death." http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/features/the-truth-about-toxicology-tests?page=1
 
SM confirms that JR's little son is living with his dad at a diff address.
 
I am confused about LE wearing hazmat suits at the scene. I did a Google search of reasons why police would wear hazmat, and it came down to not contaminating a scene and/or protecting them from dangerous chemicals. I just can't see chemicals being part of this scene, can you?

So then I'm wondering if police are typically in hazmat suits at a scene where a person is in a car on the side of the road (if this is even the accurate scene). I'm also wondering if maybe the reporter called it hazmat but was being very descriptive/dramatic, and the police were just in the more typical gear, like gloves, face mask.
 
i found this article...


http://www.mcscs.jus.gov.on.ca/engl...onersInvestigations/OCC_common_questions.html

I guess this (*** above) is what police were referring to when they were reported as saying, "“They need to find an answer as to why it happened,” said OPP Const. Lisa Narancsik."? (Could they actually still not know for sure whether it is homicide, accident, or suicide yet?) (http://www.woodstocksentinelreview....l-takes-place-on-tuesday-evening-in-cambridge)


I followed a case awhile ago , a woman found dead in a culvert. It took several months of investigation before the police could determine whether her COD was self inflicted or homicide. A happy, successful woman from all outward appearances. I am not saying that JR,s case is the same but sometimes it takes a long time to determine .
 
The one comment that really stands out for me is that LE determined very early on that there was no risk to the public.
If they know she was murdered but they don't know who did it, how can they be sure there is no risk?
 
I am confused about LE wearing hazmat suits at the scene. I did a Google search of reasons why police would wear hazmat, and it came down to not contaminating a scene and/or protecting them from dangerous chemicals. I just can't see chemicals being part of this scene, can you?

So then I'm wondering if police are typically in hazmat suits at a scene where a person is in a car on the side of the road (if this is even the accurate scene). I'm also wondering if maybe the reporter called it hazmat but was being very descriptive/dramatic, and the police were just in the more typical gear, like gloves, face mask.

Someone may have mentioned this earlier in the thread, but I believe hazmat teams are called in cases of suspected chemical suicide which often happens in vehicles. Officers have been injured by toxic gasses in the past when attempting to help victims.

http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/2013/04/25/brant-opp-issue-public-safety-warning


My guess is that when they were called to the scene which involved an unresponsive person in a vehicle, they called the hazmat team/wore hazmat suits just to be on the safe side as chemical suicide was a possibility at that point.
 
Someone may have mentioned this earlier in the thread, but I believe hazmat teams are called in cases of suspected chemical suicide which often happens in vehicles. Officers have been injured by toxic gasses in the past when attempting to help victims.

http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/2013/04/25/brant-opp-issue-public-safety-warning


My guess is that when they were called to the scene which involved an unresponsive person in a vehicle, they called the hazmat team/wore hazmat suits just to be on the safe side as chemical suicide was a possibility at that point.




Holy WOW
I had never heard of chemical suicide before
After reading your link, I can understand LE using caution
 
I followed a case awhile ago , a woman found dead in a culvert. It took several months of investigation before the police could determine whether her COD was self inflicted or homicide. A happy, successful woman from all outward appearances. I am not saying that JR,s case is the same but sometimes it takes a long time to determine .

The case (I am assuming you are referring to - Cheryl DeBoer?) sounds like a crazy case that, although there was finally a determination that it was a suicide, it's not all that convincing!
 
Someone may have mentioned this earlier in the thread, but I believe hazmat teams are called in cases of suspected chemical suicide which often happens in vehicles. Officers have been injured by toxic gasses in the past when attempting to help victims.

http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/2013/04/25/brant-opp-issue-public-safety-warning


My guess is that when they were called to the scene which involved an unresponsive person in a vehicle, they called the hazmat team/wore hazmat suits just to be on the safe side as chemical suicide was a possibility at that point.

The article notes that such a concoction can kill within seconds, which is great if you're planning a suicide.. but.. why, after driving in the wrong direction if she was headed to work, was she found alone in her vehicle in the back on the floor (or in the trunk perhaps, we don't know)?
 
Inside the car found on Canning Road, just a few kilometres west of Paris, officers found an unresponsive female who was later pronounced deceased by a coroner.

http://www.brantnews.com/news-story/6803430-death-of-woman-found-in-princeton-deemed-suspicious/

Wouldn't 'inside the car' include 'inside the trunk of the car' though? Or.. at least it potentially could.. however, I believe that it would have been reported if she had been found inside the trunk, because then it would have been an obvious homicide, I'm thinking?
 
Someone may have mentioned this earlier in the thread, but I believe hazmat teams are called in cases of suspected chemical suicide which often happens in vehicles. Officers have been injured by toxic gasses in the past when attempting to help victims.

http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/2013/04/25/brant-opp-issue-public-safety-warning


My guess is that when they were called to the scene which involved an unresponsive person in a vehicle, they called the hazmat team/wore hazmat suits just to be on the safe side as chemical suicide was a possibility at that point.

I think it was found in an article that police wear hazmat suits for other reasons as well... but that aside, how would a chemical suicide match up with the reports of JR being unidentifiable?
 
The case (I am assuming you are referring to - Cheryl DeBoer?) sounds like a crazy case that, although there was finally a determination that it was a suicide, it's not all that convincing!

Yes, that is the case
I suppose many will never be convinced.
Her son has accepted the results
It was a very crazy case.

I am certainly not there yet in thinking that this (JR) is a suicide.
To date, I haven't seen anything to suggest that.
But, to date, I have not heard anything that confirms murder either
I lean towards murder because it is being investigated by a criminal investigation team and has been called suspicious

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Wouldn't 'inside the car' include 'inside the trunk of the car' though? Or.. at least it potentially could.. however, I believe that it would have been reported if she had been found inside the trunk, because then it would have been an obvious homicide, I'm thinking?

I agree, if she was inside the trunk, it would be more obvious, at least that is how I feel.
As far as the unidentifiable, that is rumor so far
I think it is unusual that it took so long for police to let family identify her, even though family stated on SM that it was her before formal ID
 

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