Casey and TonE Chat Logs

[evergreen]

I don't think she wanted to raise Caylee since the day she was born, she got in the way of Casey's fun. Casey just played the part of "mom" when she was around other people or Cindy forced her too. She definitely likes to play games with other people's lives.

She reminds me of a black widow spider...seduce, reel 'em in, and then go in for the kill.

exactly. despite the occasional altercation, her parents provided emotional and financial support. they Always caught her when she slipped. They never let her suffer consequences. Why would she want to eliminate that?

 

[essies]

exactly. despite the occasional altercation, her parents provided emotional and financial support. they Always caught her when she slipped. They never let her suffer consequences. Why would she want to eliminate that?

Cause they were attempting to take away that support and were trying to hold her accountable. Too little too late IMO!

 

[yolorado]

MY mom. MY dad. THE kid.

 

[yolorado]

Guys, this is the BOMBSHELL out of this dump.

On June 10, 2008, Casey tells TonE that "in three days to be exact" that her parents were "moving out" of Hopespring and that they could then do what they wanted there!!!

PREMEDITATION!!!!!!


I think Bad Seed was planning on something happening to GA and CA...just my opinion.

Some people here have said early on that George and Cindy were her real targets. Gotta wonder. Or perhaps, it was all three. Maybe C&G should thank God they didn't answer those phone calls Casey was making to them. Perhaps she wasn't calling because of 'an accident,' but because her 'plan' was in progress and only partially complete and she needed to lure her other targets. Who knows with this one.

 

[essies]

Some people here have said early on that George and Cindy were her real targets. Gotta wonder. Or perhaps, it was all three. Maybe C&G should thank God they didn't answer those phone calls Casey was making to them. Perhaps she wasn't calling because of 'an accident,' but because her 'plan' was in progress and only partially complete and she needed to lure her other targets. Who knows with this one.

WOW

 

[yolorado]

sure he's a jerk. He is applying time tested gaming techniques that work. He was gaming her. he basically wants sex with her. KC is actually attracted to this guy because he's "cool" and he has social proof, and can open doors to a world she would like to be in. He is seeing if she is GF material and quickly realizing she isn't. So he is going to use her as long as she is willing. They are using each other. they deserve each other actually. these "hook ups" are a dime a dozen and have shelf lives of 3 months typically.

Yep, TonE's just a college, tech school guy in Orlando for a couple of years. What is he? 19? 21? He's not lookin' for a wife. KC's an attractive girl. She'll do him and she cooks. Maybe it could be something more, but in these text messages, I see him pulling away from the idea of more. He seems to have her number, at least at a rudimentary level. He seems to be pulling away but still keeping her on the hook. He's on top in this relationship, giving her better than she gets. He's a jerk, but so is she. Look at all the damage she's done to him. And good lesson for young college guys, a true cautionary tale. Sex is great. Lasagna tastes good. It's fun to have a cute girlfriend for a block or a semester or two, until you move back home or somewhere else to start your real life. But, be a little bit careful of who you jump into bed with and let cook in your kitchen.

 

[Pedrosmom]

I also believe Casey killed Caylee in a fit of rage turned revenge before she had the 'opportunity' to use the chloroform on her parents, thus messing up her plans of murdering her parents, and possibly Caylee, in the same night.

Casey seemed determined to get that house AND her freedom.

She already had the chloroform... she was just waiting for the guts and opportunity to use it on Cindy and George.

My opinion only, of course.

Hi SB. I agree she had thought of popping off the p's as part of the plan. But Casey was a poor planner. Not surprised she was talking to TonE about "a couple more days." Surely she underestimating what it would take to take over 2 large adults and break their necks. We'll never hear it from GA or CA, but who knows, maybe they caught her sneaking in their room with a cloth in hand. Did that start the huge fight?

 

[Pedrosmom]

Some people here have said early on that George and Cindy were her real targets. Gotta wonder. Or perhaps, it was all three. Maybe C&G should thank God they didn't answer those phone calls Casey was making to them. Perhaps she wasn't calling because of 'an accident,' but because her 'plan' was in progress and only partially complete and she needed to lure her other targets. Who knows with this one.

Yes she is stupid enough to think she can overpower 2 large adults at the same time. I think she would have attempted this while they were sleeping. They'd take her down - - maybe they did, hence the fight on June 15.

 

[yolorado]

Yes she is stupid enough to think she can overpower 2 large adults at the same time. I think she would have attempted this while they were sleeping. They'd take her down - - maybe they did, hence the fight on June 15.

I put plan in quotes because I don't think planning is at all KC's forte. If she has plans at all, she doesn't seem to have good ones, but who knows. Those unanswered calls to her parents have always intriqued me. Maybe what happened to Caylee was an 'accident,' or not, but perhaps, at that point, at the point of whatever happened with Caylee, KE decided to take it all the way. Perhaps she intended to lure her parents one by one. I have no idea what she could have been thinking. She's completely inefficient and ineffective and not very functional, but nothing about this whole mess makes any sense. I can see her wanting Cindy and George dead. I can see her formulating a plan. I can see her not thinking about her parents fighting back, because she doens't seem to have the ability of foresight.

 

[Pedrosmom]

I wonder what prompted CA to hold Casey by the throat? was that on the night of the June 15?

 

[essies]

I wonder what prompted GA to hold Casey by the throat? was that on the night of the June 15?

Cindy had KC by the throat according to Lee (I guess he heard this from KC) on the night of June 15th. But, Cindy denies it and says everything was fine and she tucked her girls in bed that night. None of the A's can get their stories straight-they're not "united" that way!!:doh:

 

[Pedrosmom]

I also believe Casey killed Caylee in a fit of rage turned revenge before she had the 'opportunity' to use the chloroform on her parents, thus messing up her plans of murdering her parents, and possibly Caylee, in the same night.

Casey seemed determined to get that house AND her freedom.

She already had the chloroform... she was just waiting for the guts and opportunity to use it on Cindy and George.

My opinion only, of course.

Although she would be inheriting a ton of debt.

 

[essies]

Although she would be inheriting a ton of debt.

KC probably didn't realize the debt her parents were in-she thought CA was a money tree!:doh:

 

[natsound]

I just find that one comment very odd, and if she had the heinous gnads to off her little girl, then why would she procrastinate against killing G and C?

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I agree here. KC's searches back in February for how to make household weapons, self defense, neck breaking, lead me to believe she was thinking about offing her parents. She just didn't have the gonads back then. She finally built them up, but Caylee was the victim instead. Someone who is capable of killing her child is capable of killing others.

 

[Patty G]

Please stay on the topic of this thread. Thanks.

 

[evergreen]

Cause they were attempting to take away that support and were trying to hold her accountable. Too little too late IMO!

no evidence of that. 31 days does not sound "accountable" to me. besides an easier solution would be to move out. it's much less icky.

 

[Theonly1]

Thanks---------swat I thought

That was the first check occurence. I believe Casey stole a second time as well...Remember that she was "forgiven" for the first one (something about Publix) and then she went and did it again to the GGPA's?

 

[lin]

no evidence of that. 31 days does not sound "accountable" to me. besides an easier solution would be to move out. it's much less icky.

She did move out and in with TL three days later, rather than taking over the house.

Everyone please try to remember, there was no real point to doing anything with G & C because they had not signed the house over to her. Way back in the thread someone posted something about CA possibly thinking about temporarily signing the house over to hide it from the divorce court, so GA wouldn't get half. Wouldn't fly because GA's attorney would have that transfer voided on day 1 and maybe CA's attorney told her so. However, KC may have begun thinking at that time, with GA out and the house in her name, she'd only have to get rid of CA and it would be all hers. This fantasy may have started a few years ago, is what I'm saying.

Way back when, near the beginning of this case, there were rumors that G&C had filed for bankruptcy protection which turned out to be unfounded. (Checked PACER myself, it truly was unfounded.) However, perhaps they were considering it and had discussed signing the house over to hide it from the bankruptcy court. (Totally unnecessary in FL with the unlimited homestead exemption in place at the time but they may not have known that.)

My point is that either of these scenarios could have been the genesis of the house fantasy. I do think there had to be some discussion at some time because I don't think KC is creative or bright enough to come up with an original thought or lie.

I don't think KC had any real plan in place and this is borne out by GA and CA still being alive. If she had ever planned on killing either of them without the house transfer in place, surely she would have done it the same week in June, rather than avoiding them and running from LA. This doesn't mean it hadn't been a fantasy for some time. Anyway, bottom line, they're still here and when that three days was up she moved in with TL, not the other way around.

 

[LCoastMom]

A little OT here, but the escort searches have been mentioned a few times and it made me think...

Maybe the escort searches were done by GA looking for Casey. Since it seems that he was onto her lies, maybe he had an inkling or found something that set his very own hinky-meter buzzing???

Since the A's were having a hard time financially it doesn't seem likely he was looking for his own pursuits, you could be right.

I do agree George was on to her and it is possible someone had put a bug in his ear we should try to explore this option further.

 

[LCoastMom]

Am I reading this correctly? I had been under the impression the computer searches for ZFG were done prior to Caylee's missing but there are posts disputing that on the MythBusters thread (post #7.)

This is still June we are talking about, the week before Caylee goes missing.:smile: