littebudot
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OT/ Could anyone tell me the address for the memorial site?? TIA
Thank you for clarifying for me. Perhaps I just read it incorrectly. I did not intend to misrepresent what you said.
You said: "A grandparent cannot just take over custody even if the child is seemingly in danger. You have to go through the system. This article gives us a "program" instituted by the State of Florida as of 2002 but that's a far cry from where we need to be. The A's should have been able to step in, tell KC to take off and get her life together and come back when she thought she could earn her rights back as a "mother". " The way I read it, it sounded like the grandparents "should have been able to step in." I guess I interpreted that as meaning that the grandparents should be able to step in without having to report the abuse to the police.
I guess I was just confused also because coming from the point of view of the Anthonys, they didn't do anything to even try to legally be able to step in, so I am unclear what they are lobbying for now. If you don't report whatever you see that concerns you with regard to the care of a child, then the parent is going to continue to have legal custody and you as the grandparent aren't going to have a leg to stand on.
I think if KC was arrested for stealing the Anthony's would have bailed her out anyway. Just because someone is arrested for stealing doesn't mean they get their child taken away by the state.
I think if KC was arrested for stealing the Anthony's would have bailed her out anyway. Just because someone is arrested for stealing doesn't mean they get their child taken away by the state.
I wonder why it took 3 years for this report to be finalized? As it stands now, it isn't worth the paper it is written on. Why didn't they have this done for the trial so that it could have been used in court by the Pros? It's almost like they didn't want to get that involved so they just dragged their feet until it was to late to do anything with it. So many children have fallen through the cracks thanks to Child Protective Services. There have been many children who were left with their parents/parent because CPS wanted to keep the family together...and the child ended up dead. In most cases there was plenty of proof that the child should not have been with the parents/parent. If George and Cindy had done something about Casey long ago they no doubt could have gotten custody of Caylee and she would be alive today. It just burns me when the different channels show the videos of Casey playing with Caylee like she is the best mother around! Heck, anyone can play mama in front of a camera once in a while. I totally detest Casey Anthony and I am glad that she has to come back to Orlando. She deserves whatever happens to her. I want to smack Jane Velez Mitchell. This is not political Jane! Maybe you should let Casey live with you and keep house for you or something as you are so concerned about her! If Jane had her way Casey wouldn't have to do the probation at all. Glad she didn't get to make the choice. I really believed the judge would let her off but thank God he didn't and I'm glad he layed into creepy Baiz too. Baiz is digging his own grave with his unethical behavior. He will do the same thing in every trial he does. I hope he loses his license in the long run.
Maybe I'm the only one that is looking at this report as one for my side. I believe that FICA was directly responsible for Caylee's death and now I have an indisputable report from DCF that confirms this. Although it doesn't change anything from a legal aspect as far as her paying for this crime it does announce to the public that she is responsible. Theres no appeal, no legal argument to dispute the report. The DT has been banging their head against a very large wall to emerge from this mess without ANY dirt left on them or their client. This may be a small piece of dirt but it's one that WILL stick. If you are in the A's camp what are you going to say to me to convince me this isn't true?
What lie are you going to try to float, spin or spew. I know that FICA lied in this report and that's not going to go away. Don't call me little miss sunshine but don't pee on my parade either. I just finished watching Vinnie on HLN and how much fun at least half of the panel was having making fun of the convict. Little Miss Untouchable just got slapped a good one on national TV, so what is she going to do about that...Nothing!
So does the agency or whoever was involved feel good about releasing this NOW? Just in time for it not to matter? This should have been available at the trial for heaven's sake to contradict the "Casey was an amazing mom" tripe.
The judge would never have left it in. KC had an attorney at the time and really should not have been speaking with DCF. Had they known for sure Caylee was dead DCF would not have had an interview. As it was the child was suppose to be missing at the time and they were required to do an investigation. You can compare this to the jailhouse tape that we were not permitted to see, too prejudicial. jmo
Seems to me a lot of things were too prejudicial. I half expected Casey to show up at court in nun's habit with a halo over her head. That's how much stuff was kept out that was prejudicial. I felt like she was allowed to be whitewashed for court, and the jury just didn't have enough info on the real Casey to come to a good decision. I understand defendant's rights and all of that, but it seems like stuff that was declared too prejudicial was way overboard in this case. I never liked that. Her stealing couldn't come in, and to hear that this DCF report couldn't come in either just makes me mad.
So does the agency or whoever was involved feel good about releasing this NOW? Just in time for it not to matter? This should have been available at the trial for heaven's sake to contradict the "Casey was an amazing mom" tripe.
They didn't deliberate long enough to even read the jury instructions let alone comprehend what they skimmed through, so I'm thinking this wasn't a group of people with a high rate of literacy to startMade for good reading material for the "jurors" over their morning coffee.
So does the agency or whoever was involved feel good about releasing this NOW? Just in time for it not to matter? This should have been available at the trial for heaven's sake to contradict the "Casey was an amazing mom" tripe.
I couldn't watch the presser when they released this report- did anyone ASK them wth was the purpose of releasing this now?
If no action can be taken against FCA for their findings- WHY? It's just another slap in the face for anyone who cared about Caylee.
I can't see a law like that happening. If there is proof that the child is being harmed, the police and the courts need to become involved. That's way too open to abuse if the grandparents can just come in and kick the parent to the curb with no proof, no need to contact the authorities. I understand that in Caylee's case and that of many other children, that would have been for the best, but if there's no oversight and grandparents can just do whatever they want, they can come in and take the child if they just don't like the parents.
ETA: Before any of this happened, no complaints or reports had been made about Casey, even though they probably should have. Her parents had not told anyone about the stealing and the lying. Therefore, I doubt they would have had any legal standing to just kick Casey out and keep Caylee.
Cindy did, if we're to believe her own words..."What have you done?!"All that and folks seem to leave out that CA worked full time - left for work before eight in the morning and returned home after six most nights. Plus she appeared to need to believe whatever bs FKC chose to feed her. I think it took her months to empty out her head of all the lies FKC fed her during the first 31 days. Listening to her back in the early days, she really believed there was a Jeffrey, that the people FKC talked about were real, and that FKC job was a real job.
FKC was right - she is a very good liar.
There is no doubt in my mind that both GA and CA knew FKC was not the reliable young woman they hoped she would be, but I remain convinced they had no comprehension that FKC could/would kill Caylee. And dispose of her body in such an ugly brutal manner. Who immediately suspects their own child of this?
They didn't deliberate long enough to even read the jury instructions let alone comprehend what they skimmed through, so I'm thinking this wasn't a group of people with a high rate of literacy to start
I couldn't watch the presser when they released this report- did anyone ASK them wth was the purpose of releasing this now?
If no action can be taken against FCA for their findings- WHY? It's just another slap in the face for anyone who cared about Caylee.
They didn't deliberate long enough to even read the jury instructions let alone comprehend what they skimmed through, so I'm thinking this wasn't a group of people with a high rate of literacy to start