CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #16

[Dee10]

I have a feeling LE does believe Dylan was in his home just like MR has said and that is why they put abduction on the table early on and have never taken it off.

It seems to me they would have had the airscent dogs inside and outside of the home the day he went missing hoping they could pick up his scent trail somewhere.

IMO

I appreciate your opinion, but like you there are some things you want confirmed by LE and for me this is a biggie due to the phone being off around 8:00. Until this is confirmed, personally I will be firmly on the fence.

I don't believe LE brought in dogs immediately, although when they did & searched the neighborhood surely they started at the home.

 

[Confusion]

I appreciate your opinion, but like you there are some things you want confirmed by LE and for me this is a biggie due to the phone being off around 8:00. Until this is confirmed, personally I will be firmly on the fence.

I don't believe LE brought in dogs immediately, although when they did & searched the neighborhood surely they started at the home.

They brought in dogs fairly early, within the first few days, and it was reported that they followed a scent from the house to the intersection of CR500 and CR501, which is where the last big search was. I'm not going back to find the link again, but I did post it within the past 2-3 days. It was stated that they didn't have a clean scent item at the time, so they couldn't be 100% sure it was Dylan's scent that was tracked. At this point, even 50% is better odds than what we have without it. MOO

 

[ICUDOUCME]

I know what I read, what I see, and I take it in. What I have so far,is mom and dad can't seem to get along(this is observation). To me common in a divorce situation(I try real hard to be nice to my ex, but you can tell I would want to poke his eyes out). They will take stabs at each other, and try to pass blame on each other...(wow they are doing this, and have done this). To me it's normal when your bitter about things that have happened in the past...They have been in a non functioning relationship, and have pretty much gotten to the point they don't want anything to do with each other, and now Dylan is missing.
As for what the MSM has said alot of it seems to be misreported, and also cut away from, leaving us to think MR wasn't answering the tough questions, which he actually seems to have done in the link I provided last night. I think the media has caused alot of the people reading this to believe MR is the bad guy(JMO).
what I know so far is that everything LE has verified that Mark has said happened, except McDonalds, and weather he was at MR home. Does that mean neither happened no, it just means as of right now we don't know. From Walmart to were ever we just don't know.
We know those dogs that searched the water, hit on something(I believe someone), but we do have more than one missing person from the surrounding area.

 

[ICUDOUCME]

I thought so too, he looks closer to the age of one of my nieces' 10 year old than another one's 13 year old. :waitasec:

When the photo was posted they stated it was taken about two weeks prior to him going missing

 

[kkdj]

I'm just saying, if I didn't get along with someone and something like this happened and I had to tell them this thing happened and they immediately jumped me for it. I would not bother with them again. If they can't work with me, then I would work alone. I'm not going to volunteer to contact someone when I know that all I'm going to get is blame and recrimination. What good does that do? None.

Maybe SHE needed to wig out, but maybe HE didn't need to hear it. Because they share a child does not give her the right to verbally abuse him in this situation. That's what I'm saying. Consider her feelings??? What about HIS?? He's not suppose to have any. That's just sad. Hubster said if I did that to him, he wouldn't answer me.

Thank you. I tried to explain this earlier, but not so eloquently.
There are rational people, drama people, denial people, etc. We don't know the family dynamics. I don't know, but ER could be impossible to rationalize with.
I still am looking at dad for involvement tho.
Jmo

 

[Dee10]

They brought in dogs fairly early, within the first few days, and it was reported that they followed a scent from the house to the intersection of CR500 and CR501, which is where the last big search was. I'm not going back to find the link again, but I did post it within the past 2-3 days. It was stated that they didn't have a clean scent item at the time, so they couldn't be 100% sure it was Dylan's scent that was tracked. At this point, even 50% is better odds than what we have without it. MOO

I hope you can appreciate that is not good enough for me (personally) that there is a 50% chance Dylan was there. Some don't like a grieving parent to be "tarred & feathered" I have read before and I refuse to take up for someone who MAY have hurt their child, therefore I will be on the fence until there is confirmation from LE that Dylan was there. Not saying he still couldn't have done something later, just I will be off the fence.

 

[Confusion]

I hope you can appreciate that is not good enough for me (personally) that there is a 50% chance Dylan was there. Some don't like a grieving parent to be "tarred & feathered" I have read before and I refuse to take up for someone who MAY have hurt their child, therefore I will be on the fence until there is confirmation from LE that Dylan was there. Not saying he still couldn't have done something later, just I will be off the fence.

They didn't say it was only 50%. It's your choice to do as you feel about this case or any other, or to do nothing at all if that's what you prefer. In spite of insinuations (or actual accusations) of "taking up for X", my only goal is to find the truth, and hopefully Dylan. If it's MR, then so be it. If it's the RSO down the street, no big surprise. If it's a complete stranger who made a wrong turn, stopped to ask directions and decided to grab him since he could, it would be hard to believe but whatever. I don't care who did it, or why; I just want to know that when someone is arrested and convicted of whatever crime/s happened here, that LE made absolutely sure that they had the right person, and not just someone with lousy luck who nobody would miss if he was locked away anyway. MOO

 

[Seajay]

I wanted to take a second on on this just to say my heart is breaking for what happened in CT today. I cannot stop crying. I keep thinking about those poor parents who sent their children to school today and expected them home tonight. How do you get over that???

Elaine sent her son to Vallecito and expected him back. Mark left his son at the house and expected him to be there when he got back. These parents are heartbroken. Both of them. Something happened to their child. It makes no sense. Why are we not giving both parents the benefit of the doubt??? They are both hurting, not just one. Both of them.

I've gotta go. I can't take this anymore.

 

[mck16]

I wanted to take a second on on this just to say my heart is breaking for what happened in CT today. I cannot stop crying. I keep thinking about those poor parents who sent their children to school today and expected them home tonight. How do you get over that???

Elaine sent her son to Vallecito and expected him back. Mark left his son at the house and expected him to be there when he got back. These parents are heartbroken. Both of them. Something happened to their child. It makes no sense. Why are we not giving both parents the benefit of the doubt??? They are both hurting, not just one. Both of them.

I've gotta go. I can't take this anymore.

I understand and I agree. The same old back and forth. I am really tired of reading it. Until LE releases something, or makes an arrest I am just going to move on. I will check in because DR is in my heart but no more posting for me until there is something new to talk about. jmo

 

[Idon'tneedthesame]

Frankly, I don't know, and I really don't think it's important to anything here. I have been trying to avoid discussing anything related to MR at all, but it's not possible with the circumstances what they are. Because of that, I try ignoring the insults and accusations about him, and usually most of the things that have already been discussed for about 50 pages. Sometimes I give in and comment, so I guess I can't complain if other people do too. Do we know that she was angry and accusatory in her texts that day? No. Do we know if he gave her any information about what was going on there? No. Do we know if Cory just sent a message asking what's going on, or if it was one complaining about him not responding to Elaine? No. Do any of these things really matter? No. MOO

I understand and I agree. The same old back and forth. I am really tired of reading it. Until LE releases something, or makes an arrest I am just going to move on. I will check in because DR is in my heart but no more posting for me until there is something new to talk about. jmo

I agree. I will check in as well. <modsnip>.

 

[ICUDOUCME]

That intersection of 500 and 501, googled that area, and noticed that not far from there is what they are calling a general store, and a country market, Reality, Chamber of Commerce, but the main thing I see that is right there at that intersection is a sign that reads RV Parking.

 

[Confusion]

I posted about that last night, but it got buried in one of the arguments pretty quickly. The other fact I had posted was that the place rents cabins and RVs (or RV spaces, I can't remember which) with a RSO living above the office. He has been convicted of child *advertiser censored* and exploitation, I believe.

 

[Dee10]

Sorry, I shouldn't have used your phrase for that when I wasn't meaning that you had done it. I was accused a couple of nights ago of sounding like a defending attorney who will stoop to anything to get a client off. To me, that's an accusation, and an insult. All I've said is that I won't accuse anyone when there are almost no facts known in a case, especially one of the parents. I will however, for the sake of speculating on what happened to DR, use the last reported sighting as a starting point, until I hear that there is evidence that he wasn't there that morning, or was later seen elsewhere. MOO

That is where my head is at the last known siting by someone not involved (so to speak). To my understanding at this time, it is Walmart unless anyone has anything substantiated different? If Dylan's phone was on it could be a whole different timeline.

 

[ICUDOUCME]

I posted about that last night, but it got buried in one of the arguments pretty quickly. The other fact I had posted was that the place rents cabins and RVs (or RV spaces, I can't remember which) with a RSO living above the office. He has been convicted of child *advertiser censored* and exploitation, I believe.

Interesting to note* Thank you.

 

[Salem]

I posted about that last night, but it got buried in one of the arguments pretty quickly. The other fact I had posted was that the place rents cabins and RVs (or RV spaces, I can't remember which) with a RSO living above the office. He has been convicted of child *advertiser censored* and exploitation, I believe.

I saw this and didn't put two and two together. Where was my brain?

Oh my......

I want to know if the apartment or any vehicles that the RSO had access to, have been physically searched. So far all we have is that they have been "talked to." I want more. I want a physical search. Surely, if they are RSOs - a search can be conducted, if a judge issues a warrant? It can't be that hard. This guy should still be on probation/parole anyway.

Salem

 

[Confusion]

I saw this and didn't put two and two together. Where was my brain?

Oh my......

I want to know if the apartment or any vehicles that the RSO had access to, have been physically searched. So far all we have is that they have been "talked to." I want more. I want a physical search. Surely, if they are RSOs - a search can be conducted, if a judge issues a warrant? It can't be that hard. This guy should still be on probation/parole anyway.

Salem

I'm really not sure which thought is worse. Anything involving that guy would be devastating even if he survived, but the idea of being turned on by someone you (more or less) love and trust, and who is supposed to love and trust you, would be almost as bad, or even worse, depending on what happened. :fence:

 

[PaulR]

I posted about that last night, but it got buried in one of the arguments pretty quickly. The other fact I had posted was that the place rents cabins and RVs (or RV spaces, I can't remember which) with a RSO living above the office. He has been convicted of child *advertiser censored* and exploitation, I believe.

I think "we" dropped it because it would provide an alternative to MR as POI. MOO.

 

[Confusion]

I think "we" dropped it because it would provide an alternative to MR as POI. MOO.

I think I may have confused my rv parks. There's one less than 1000 feet from the intersection according to the map I used, but the one RRS lives at is right by MR's place. I went back and checked my posts from yesterday.

 

[TxJan1971]

I just read a "COMMENT" on the Find DR Facebook page from 6 hours ago that kind of took my breath away and I'm still unsure what to make of it. Since it's Facebook, and a comment from a poster, it could be from anyone, but it is interesting to say the least.

You can find the post/comment by looking on the right side of the page under RECENT POSTS by others. You have to expand (click on SEE ALL posts) - then scroll down a ways until you see a poster DW - and look under comments. It appears to be from a poster who has the Find Dylan Poster as his/her photo. You'll have to read the rest as I do not want to copy what was written. The comment is from the individual that has the photo of the Find Dylan flyer as his/her photo - from 6 hours ago. Hmmmmmmmmmm Mod, please delete if not permitted.

 

[Salem]

At this stage, we really need to be looking at alternatives. I agree that some things about MR look hinky and there is a possibility that something went wrong. On the other hand, there is a lot about MR that does not look hinky, specifically his behavior since Dylan was reported missing and LE's behavior.

I really thought there was going to be a arrest a week or two back. I've followed so many of these cases here, and when LE pulls out all the stops to do major searches of homes and vehicles, it seems they pretty much know what happened. I think LE was feeling pretty confident until everthing came up empty, so now they are going back to the drawing board.

So far it doesn't appear that the road search turned up anything really useful either.

Frustrating..... all the way around.

Salem