CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #16

[Cardinal47]

BTW please please please leave my children out of this, drag me, drag MR through the mud, but not my kids.

Thank you for your honesty. I was lucky enough to read your post before it was removed.

I have suspect MR is not what he pretends to me. Mild mannered and accomodating. His story has never held water of what happened during those 12 hours. Nobody believes it. We want to believe it but we don't.

Only when others like you are brave enough to out the real MR will we find Dylan. And they will come now that they have seen your light.

You need to tell your story on a site that will allow you to speak freely and not moderated. It has to be told.

I think LE knows a whole lot more than they are telling. The enemy is within.

Your sons seem to be fine young men. Thank you for rescueing and protecting them.

 

[NC Analyzer]

You know, for a moment or two today, with the hideous news coming out of CT, I thought that maybe if someone had Dylan hidden away for some stupid custody revenge act, that he would be returned. But I don't really think that is what has happened here. It never made sense to me, as there was no way to end it without facing charges and probably losing access to Dylan altogether.

If he is alive, by this time, I fear the worst possible things are happening to him. But I am afraid, equally, that he is not.

Is another major search set for this weekend, has there been any word? I know the weather is foul, but it is not going to improve for 4 -6 months up there. If no searching takes place, does that mean it is basically accepted that he is likely deceased but that it is too dangerous to keep searching ? I don't know what to think. All I know is that it does not pay to count on anyone confessing to a murder when a child is involved, it just does not happen. Not, anyway, unless a suspect is identified and able to be interviewed and confronted. with solid evidence.

With all of the exotic and over-the-top technology of today, nothing has helped much in handling cases like this one. LE still needs to have witnesses, or a license plate number, or DNA or prints, just like 50 years ago.

Yes, a photo can be transmitted instantly, but if the child has been taken by a predator and killed, the locating of the child is no easier.

I apologize for using the scenario that Dylan is not alive as a possibility. I loathe the thought of it, but there are so few alternatives that make any sense at this point, or wouldn't be almost as awful.
JMO

I am seriously convinced that you and I are jinxed. Geez. :banghead:

 

[rebeccaeee]

To clarify my previous post, the FB comment I referred to in my last post - the poster is DR and questions the FB site if Dylan could have run away. It is the response that kind of took my breath away... Not sure if others have seen it.

What caught me about the post is that DW (the original poster) is actually one of Dylan's FB friends on his most recent profile. Then again, Bayfield is really starting to seem like the kind of place where everyone knows everyone...except, of course, whoever might have taken Dylan. No one seems to know them.

 

[azgrandma]

The same goes for me and I would just like to add azgrandma since I didn't understand the mail feature when I started here, you may want to check your private messages at the top right-hand corner of the page in case a WS Administrator has a message for you. :grouphug:

Oh heck, I tried to send an email but couldn't find the dang "send" button! I'm really not that computer challenged

 

[cluciano63]

I am seriously convinced that you and I are jinxed. Geez. :banghead:

I sure feel as though I am. I latch onto a case with a missing child or young person and you can be almost certain the victim won't be found, it seems.

 

[gngr~snap]

She will be allowed to talk...
WS just has to KNOW she is who she says she is. That's all.
Pleanty of family members of missing people post here!

See Ali Lowitzer... her mom posts here.

 

[TxJan1971]

Welcome, AZGrandma. You have my heartfelt thoughts/prayers for a positive outcome. You will be a welcome addition to help us help you find Dylan. We all want the same thing and want the person(s) responsible to be held accountable! Looking forward to any information you can provide so that together we can bring Dylan home.

 

[Kimster]

She will be allowed to talk...
WS just has to KNOW she is who she says she is. That's all.
Pleanty of family members of missing people post here!

See Ali Lowitzer... her mom posts here.

She is verified. PLEASE - all of us need to remember to leave her kids out of this - okay? That's the rule around here and now we have our own member who is asking for us to follow it. :tyou:

And welcome azgrandma! We wish you were joining us under better circumstances. :hug:

 

[Tennlyn]

I have held my breath long enough, let me introduce myself, I am MR's first ex wife. I joined this website because I saw that you all were looking up information on my children. They are innocent, they are hurting, they are real.

Go for it, check me out, email me, google me, do whatever you want. My name is Elizabeth J Roser, it changed to Redwine after we got divorced and it is now Horvath.

Let me tell you something about MR, the mods can stop me, but honestly I am absolutely sick by all of this.

We did not have the perfect marriage, young, niave, whatever. But he did act like a father to my daughter, we created two wonderful, beautiful, caring boys. He was not nice, he is a manipulator, a con artist and an abuser.

I'm done being nice, I'm done being evasive. I will allow all of you to look up our court records, look up our police reports. Mark is NOT a nice person. I'll go to court and defend that statement. There is not enough time or space for me to say what all he did to me and my children.

Have any of you wondered why two of his children refuse to talk to him, but they have a connection with Elaine? That is because she was the person that I felt would care for my children, would make sure they were taken care of. I have not spent a lot of time with her, but I can tell you this, I would trust her with my grandchildren any time, any day, any where. But I sure as heck would not Mark to even know they exist.

Did any of you wonder why it was that he never particpated in a search until AFTER the media was involved. Why his comments are directed toward Elaine knowing everything vs where is my son? The guy is nuts! He abused me, check the records, he abused our children, check the records. I have no doubt that Mark did something IMO.

I don't know all the rules on this site, I don't know if I'm out of line. I just don't know. But what I can tell you is that I have children, (yes they are adults) and grandchildren, that know this man more than any of you will ever know him. They are scared for Dylan, they hurt for Dylan and they worry about Dylan. I as a mother, cry, pray and hurt for Elaine each and every second of every day. Ask yourselves, why would WE, people that Mark has not been involved with (oh other than to sign over custody of his two children) in over 8 years care more about this than Mark.

As an FYI, Mark and I just got done with court in about 2003 or 2004 and we divorced in 1989. He finally gave up his parental rights to his children, as long as I forego the $40000 + in unpaid child support.

He is a smoot operator and knows how to work people, just be careful.

Bless you for confirming all my suspicions. I wish I could hug you!

 

[azgrandma]

Welcome, AZGrandma. You have my heartfelt thoughts/prayers for a positive outcome. You will be a welcome addition to help us help you find Dylan. We all want the same thing and want the person(s) responsible to be held accountable! Looking forward to any information you can provide so that together we can bring Dylan home.

That is the goal, BRING DYLAN HOME! I'd make a deal with the devil himself if it would bring Dylan home safe.

 

[rebeccaeee]

Welcome, AZGrandma. You have my heartfelt thoughts/prayers for a positive outcome. You will be a welcome addition to help us help you find Dylan. We all want the same thing and want the person(s) responsible to be held accountable! Looking forward to any information you can provide so that together we can bring Dylan home.

Oh welcome, welcome azgrandma. I almost sent you a mesaage this week because I felt like we were both newbies here, drawn in by Dylan. Now I know why you are here and while I wish none of us were here sleuthing, perhaps you will help us and we will help you and someone somewhere can help Dylan come home, one way or another. I am so sorry for your trauma and glad to hear your grown kids have turned out A-okay.

 

[azgrandma]

Oh welcome, welcome azgrandma. I almost sent you a mesaage this week because I felt like we were both newbies here, drawn in by Dylan. Now I know why you are here and while I wish none of us were here sleuthing, perhaps you will help us and we will help you and someone somewhere can help Dylan come home, one way or another. I am so sorry for your trauma and glad to hear your grown kids have turned out A-okay.

Thank you, I've always been a forensic nut, but didn't want to dive in this way. Yes, my kids are wonderful, well adjusted, handsome, loving, attentive fathers, terrific husbands, could not ask for more even if I tried. They, along with my daughter have always and always will be my greatest accomplishment in life.

 

[catswhiskers]

Hello azgrandma and welcome I wondered if you could give us a little more insight (if you are comfortable doing so) into the history of abuse you mentioned earlier. Or possibly any links we can follow ourselves?
Thanks - and I understand if you don't want to be specific or go into detail here.

 

[cluciano63]

That is the goal, BRING DYLAN HOME! I'd make a deal with the devil himself if it would bring Dylan home safe.

A lot of members here at WS participate in searches, fund meals for searchers, make flyers and posters, offer their particular skills to families of the missing, and many more things to try to help the missing. This site is not about hashing out "who dun it" so much as trying to help in any way possible. Of course, lots of times that includes trying to figure out who the suspect might be. But I don't think you will find another site that is so dedicated to doing real good for the missing and victims of crimes.

 

[vasportsmom]

She is verified. PLEASE - all of us need to remember to leave her kids out of this - okay? That's the rule around here and now we have our own member who is asking for us to follow it. :tyou:

And welcome azgrandma! We wish you were joining us under better circumstances. :hug:

Thank you for being so on top of this Kimster! You guys rock! Idk what an alien's vice is but we owe you spaceships full of it.


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[Cardinal47]

I didn't understand the process so I apologize for jumping the gun and thinking her voice could not be heard'

 

[gngr~snap]

I didn't understand the process so I apologize for jumping the gun and thinking her voice could not be heard'

:therethere: it's ok
:grouphug: we still ♥ u!
Kimstir gave ya the :kimsterwink:
:giggle:

Now... Let's get Dylan HOME!

 

[vasportsmom]

Thank you, I've always been a forensic nut, but didn't want to dive in this way. Yes, my kids are wonderful, well adjusted, handsome, loving, attentive fathers, terrific husbands, could not ask for more even if I tried. They, along with my daughter have always and always will be my greatest accomplishment in life.

I know you are about to get bombarded with questions but I have one too. You said MR signed over his rights to your boys to get out of CS. Was that your idea or his? I only ask because I wonder if he tried the same thing again and ER or a judge turned him down <modsnip>.


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[gngr~snap]

I know you are about to get bombarded with questions but I have one too. You said MR signed over his rights to your boys to get out of CS. Was that your idea or his? I only ask because I wonder if he tried the same thing again and ER or a judge turned him down <modsnip>.


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and for what it is worth feel free to NOT answer anything you don't want to or can't...
we understand!

 

[azgrandma]

Hello azgrandma and welcome I wondered if you could give us a little more insight (if you are comfortable doing so) into the history of abuse you mentioned earlier. Or possibly any links we can follow ourselves?
Thanks - and I understand if you don't want to be specific or go into detail here.

I'm not sure what it is you are looking for, keep in mind I was married to him over 20 years ago, times were different. It was a time when the police did not have the authority to arrest, someone had to leave the premises. I could sit here all night and tell of incidences that happened, but it would not help out. Bottom line is that I want people to know that MR is a manipulator and dang good at it. It was driving me nuts hearing people say how caring he appeared to be.

Common sense tells you that none of us know what goes on behind closed doors, the wonderful family to the neighbors is not the wonderful family that is living it.

Profile what an abusive man does, hmmmm, alienate the partner from family (check) make the partner dependant (check) lower self esteem and worth of the partner (check) over emphasize your worth, devalue others, excuse wrong behavior, blame others, deflect fault, oh the list goes on.

There is something wrong with a person that never accepts responsibility for their actions, they did this because that person did that. Gosh if I could tell you how many times it was my fault that it snowed and the drive needed shoveling.

None of this will help bring Dylan back. I just want you all to have a clearer picture of who MR is, what MR is.

Biggest thing, why is it that his children that are old enough to make a decision, to have a choice, CHOOSE not to have contact with him?