Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #30

[AbigailHobbs]

Oh in regards to digital data being off, Amber guygers case is the one I mentioned but couldn't recall the name.

In Amber guygers the issue was when she came home and shot botham Jean the black man in his living room. The timing was key.

So when they got data for keycards they were all off. The timing was minutes and hours off. It had to be corrected by the companies hired specialist to unravel time and date discrepancies.

That is one way the neighbor could be confused on the video time and date. If data is stored on a server it may be their time zone and sometimes the dates get screwed up so instead of correcting it, they just adjust it in house since usually it's unnecessary and apparently a pain to fix.

Anyway roderrick could be mistaken that way. It's a possibility to explain the video

 

[Sillybilly]

I never believed that for a second. There’s just no way that’s accurate.

Maybe I'm missing something (certainly not unheard of ) but it was 955 miles over 28+ hours (8:50 am Jan 28 through 1:20 pm Jan 29). That's an average of 34+/- mph .. not undoable.

That does not however factor in any time she spent picking AS up at the airport, if in fact she did. I don't think we've heard of any MSM input from him in that regard.

 

[AbigailHobbs]

Wow....where does the indigent package come from....private or state?

The state. It's a couple stamps, shampoo, envelopes and paper. Not much else

 

[SSGAma]

That's my sense. Possibly she dropped him off with an accomplice "doctor" and he didn't survive so the rental car was needed to transport and hide him.

The video "could" be accurate but so far it was the neighbor who explained it and it felt like perhaps he was put up to a ruse likely set to trap her.

Remember she said something about the video being wrong and Harley's car was parked there instead in the afternoon?

I feel like they tricked her into talking but leaked just enough to affirm to the public they have solid leads.

I agree, it's confusing. I do know that we haven't seen all of the footage that the neighbor/s have provided to LE. If something was loaded up in advance of the Monday trip maybe that accounts for the mystery night time frames.
Some wounds bleed a lot without decapacitating someone.
I wonder if someone who knows what happened is talking to LE and they're able to substantiate what is being said with physical evidence?

 

[jvikes]

sooo re:the rental car there was a neighbour who flew a drone over the neighbourhood on january 28 and he uploaded them to youtube. his name can be found in this article 'Anything I Can Do To Help': Drone Pilot Helps Search For Missing 11-Year-Old Gannon Stauch if someone was to look at the second video at about 8 minutes in. it could show what cars were in the driveway. i can’t tell the time because i’m not from the city so i don’t know what the shadows would look like for the sunrise/set maybe a local ? could shed a lot more light re probability of 960 miles.

Kind of makes sense here. HH has a white car but the white car in the driveway looks more like a hatchback or small crossover, not a sedan. I think the rented Rio was white. Plus no dark SUV, which she said she drove and left. Not sure on timing but the video is dated 1/28 and obviously daytime.

 

[grannygates]

Thanks for sharing this link... it gives n excellent overview of the area ….

I cant work out the cars in driveways either..... Do we know if the rental went back to the house at all that day?? (Is that the car we can possibly see?? but aerial maps are definitely not my forte..... ) Assuming she has dropped Al of at some point??

The only other thing I can think of with so many miles on the car is that she picked someone up to help and drive thru the night..…????

from what i can see there is a white car in the driveway and the red truck parallel parked across the driveway, almost blocking the white car in? trouble is that HH also drives a white jetta, so cannot be sure if driveway car is HH or rental. TS said both her and AS left in the rental together to look for GS. i’ve only seen SM screenshots of TSs account of what happened that day and i’m not counting on the reliability of those.

 

[SSGAma]

That's my sense. Possibly she dropped him off with an accomplice "doctor" and he didn't survive so the rental car was needed to transport and hide him.

The video "could" be accurate but so far it was the neighbor who explained it and it felt like perhaps he was put up to a ruse likely set to trap her.

Remember she said something about the video being wrong and Harley's car was parked there instead in the afternoon?

I feel like they tricked her into talking but leaked just enough to affirm to the public they have solid leads.

Maybe they found the accomplice?

I agree, it's confusing. I do know that we haven't seen all of the footage that the neighbor/s have provided to LE. If something was loaded up in advance of the Monday trip maybe that accounts for the mystery night time frames.
Some wounds bleed a lot without decapacitating someone.
I wonder if someone who knows what happened is talking to LE and they're able to substantiate what is being said with physical evidence?

 

[Best of What's Around]

Oh in regards to digital data being off, Amber guygers case is the one I mentioned but couldn't recall the name.

In Amber guygers the issue was when she came home and shot botham Jean the black man in his living room. The timing was key.

So when they got data for keycards they were all off. The timing was minutes and hours off. It had to be corrected by the companies hired specialist to unravel time and date discrepancies.

That is one way the neighbor could be confused on the video time and date. If data is stored on a server it may be their time zone and sometimes the dates get screwed up so instead of correcting it, they just adjust it in house since usually it's unnecessary and apparently a pain to fix.

Anyway roderrick could be mistaken that way. It's a possibility to explain the video

Excellent point - but why did Tee first seemingly admit it was the right footage in the first rant to address it - she said the shadows and footage from the other side would show G leaving the car. Only much later did she completely change her tune (and claim the first footage was correct of them leaving but she never even parked the car in the driveway when she got home). Yet, she had previously said she took a photo with her own phone (which she later said was in the house) - a selfie of her and Gannon in the truck in the driveway that would show he came home with her. You see my point? Lies everywhere - but if that footage was wrong, I see no reason why she would have at first tried to explain shadow technology, other footage from the other side, and selfies with her phone to explain this footage away if it was indeed the wrong footage...

Yikes, she makes my head spin just trying to describe her lies and contradictions.

 

[grannygates]

Kind of makes sense here. HH has a white car but the white car in the driveway looks more like a hatchback or small crossover, not a sedan. I think the rented Rio was white. Plus no dark SUV, which she said she drove and left. Not sure on timing but the video is dated 1/28 and obviously daytime.

i think your right that it looks more like a crossover or hatchback.

2019 kia rio has a hatchback option : 2019 Kia Rio Review, Pricing, and Specs

 

[jvikes]

Do you mean underestimate? Because I
Do not think it will happen. It could, but it is just my bet that there is nothing they will reasonably offer her that would make her change her tune of innocence. She appears to be a legend in her own mind and as such, I personally believe she will not make a deal to still serve a very long time and admit guilt. I do not think she will be reasonable and see the writing on the wall. I personally think she will be shocked when she is found guilty. MOO

Agreed, but I meant overestimate in the sense that she won't want to exchange where he is in order to quicken the trial. So assuming she is willing to be reasonable like that is overestimating her sanity. Every minute until that guilty verdict is read she will be expecting to be vindicated.

 

[MassGuy]

Maybe I'm missing something (certainly not unheard of ) but it was 955 miles over 28+ hours (8:50 am Jan 28 through 1:20 pm Jan 29). That's an average of 33+/- mph .. not undoable.

That does not however factor in any time she spent picking AS up at the airport, if in fact she did. I don't think we've heard of any MSM input from him in that regard.

My issue is her disappearing for that period of time, and the impracticality of it all.

If the goal is to make a body disappear, then what difference does 400 miles make, as opposed to 50?

These were crucial hours, when the search was picking up steam. I just can’t fathom her being able to do that, as she was central to what happened. I’d expect law enforcement wanting to talk to her that day, and it would have likely been a prolonged conversation.

Another issue I had with it was her supposedly getting a car with only 5 miles on it, which is pretty unusual.

I spoke to a friend who is a manager at another major rental agency, and he indicated that the mileage numbers have a decent probability of being inaccurate, as the main reason it’s tracked in the first place, is to keep track of when it needs an oil change.

A car with that kind of mileage wouldn’t be a concern, and it could have gone through several drivers before it was checked.

So personally, I’m incredibly skeptical. Certainly can’t discount it as being true though.

 

[Best of What's Around]

Agreed, but I meant overestimate in the sense that she won't want to exchange where he is in order to quicken the trial. So assuming she is willing to be reasonable like that is overestimating her sanity. Every minute until that guilty verdict is read she will be expecting to be vindicated.

Yes, I apologize I was not clear - I meant she would be hoping to make the trial go faster in hopes he is not found before it is over (a no body trial). It is late and I am anything but clear at this hour

 

[Sillybilly]

That does not however factor in any time she spent picking AS up at the airport, if in fact she did. I don't think we've heard of any MSM input from him in that regard.

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Will be very interested in knowing if what she claims is true. (ETA: Just now saw the idiocy in this statement as we are talking TS here.)

Funny thing about pathological liars. They can lie right to your face, knowing full well that you know the truth, yet they almost seem to dare you to challenge it.

Years ago had a person I know sit in front of me telling others a story that involved me and my SO. It was no more true than fly to the the moon. It wasn't even an intriguing or noteworthy story. We were too young to challenge him on it but now I'd immediately call them on their hogwash.

 

[jvikes]

i think your right that it looks more like a crossover or hatchback.

2019 kia rio has a hatchback option : 2019 Kia Rio Review, Pricing, and Specs

Plus, if I'm being nitpicky, the RD video shows the right side driveway spot open with her SUV (dark) on the left. Creatures of habit will park in their spots and the white car in the video is on the left side of the driveway. If we assume how things looked Monday morning 1/27 pre-video, I'd think dark SUV (LS) on left driveway spot, white VW on right (HH), truck in street. That's probably their norm and renting a different car you would still end up parking in "your" spot.

 

[snvoigt]

IMHO Leticia will never reveal the location of Gannon’s body, just to inflict as much emotional pain as she can on Landen and Al. From the very beginning she felt she was the one entitled to be the center of attention as the grieving “mother”, she felt she deserved the , felt she should have been the one selected to be on camera doing interviews with Al, felt the community should have been there to support her, and she didn’t get any of it. Al left the first moment he could and has been a constant support to Landen, who Latecia views as her enemy.

 

[snvoigt]

you might be surprised. Some people actually seek out houses like this. Typically, you can get a great house for a great price. Crazy to me personally. But it happens.

The Darlie Routier house has been sold a few times over the years. I lived across the street at the time of the murders (in my late teens-early 20’s) and to this day people still drive by there and walk around the house like it’s a historical site they’ve added to their “places to see list” and not somebody’s home.

 

[snvoigt]

CO has Victim's Compensation Fund that reimburses up to $30K. Homeowner will have a small window of time to file a claim.

Victim Compensation

I know in Texas when we had to utilize the VCF they paid the deposit and first months rent on a new house, paid for movers, worked with the utility companies to wave any deposits, reimbursed time my husband took off work over his paid vacation days, and covered my daughters counseling sessions for over a year. They were an absolute God send during that time.

 

[k-mac]

She didn’t have to kill him at the house for a murder charge to stick. It looks to me like he left alive and he didn’t return. She could have easily poisoned him with medicine, and drove around until it took effect. Sorry to be graphic. Hate to think about that, but it is what I suspected the second I saw him walk out. He looked injured and maybe subdued.

I think the rental car was used after the fact to move him, and she knew they were already on to her. I think the reason they spent so much time in the same search area was because they found the evidence of him there after the Apple Watch led the straight to the spot. She admitted he was with her in that area “lost” just a few hours before he went missing. If she had hours of unaccounted for time and miles on Tuesday -Wednesday, they have been building a no body case because she might be the only one who can resolve this. And I bet that’s the one thing she won’t do.

Also, I also think there’s no way in hell this DA would have been in a hurry to arrest her without sufficient evidence to put her away for life.

Just my opinion.

agree 100% with you on her movements.
especially the hire car, she had something very important to do and had to resort to chancing the money trail to it. seemed a chance she had to take rather than being seen and tracked in her own vechicle for sure.

moo

 

[WildWest]

My issue is her disappearing for that period of time, and the impracticality of it all.

If the goal is to make a body disappear, then what difference does 400 miles make, as opposed to 50?

These were crucial hours, when the search was picking up steam. I just can’t fathom her being able to do that, as she was central to what happened. I’d expect law enforcement wanting to talk to her that day, and it would have likely been a prolonged conversation.

Another issue I had with it was her supposedly getting a car with only 5 miles on it, which is pretty unusual.

I spoke to a friend who is a manager at another major rental agency, and he indicated that the mileage numbers have a decent probability of being inaccurate, as the main reason it’s tracked in the first place, is to keep track of when it needs an oil change.

A car with that kind of mileage wouldn’t be a concern, and it could have gone through several drivers before it was checked.

So personally, I’m incredibly skeptical. Certainly can’t discount it as being true though.

I have to wonder if she thought she would book a flight out of FTC/LOVE airport and got there only to find out the mostly book trips to Las Vegas and not regular daily flights? (Atleast that was the situation when I lived there though it could include more flights besides that and private planes these days).

As recent as 2005 that was all farming fields but the buildings were going up one by one. Now, it's a NYC circus there between the hospital, office buildings, and car/motorcycle businesses and I could name others. Either way, unfathomable traffic compared to 1 or 2-3 decades ago. NOPE LS, it's not a desolate cowtown area anymore.

 

[Cindizzi]

I know there will be plenty of press at the jail to film the arrival of TS today. IMO we aren’t going to see much except the vehicles driving in and through a bay door. No “perp walk” or people shouting questions.
JMO.
See video at 1:34

Letecia Stauch in Kansas jail Wednesday on her way to Colorado - KRDO

Also, are college students like , um 12 these days? Man I’m old.