Would be fun to theorize what kind of crazy * is going to come out about TS in this trial. You KNOW she was up to something. The question is what?
I'm taking a big breath, and here goes...this is only my opinion, and has to be viewed as speculative. I suspect that there was an event Sunday evening which brought about an attack by T on Gannon. This attack began in the garage, using the board. (Ref#68 and #70; Tiguan showed traces of blood on the bumper, and blood on the garage floor) Gannon ran for his bedroom. T followed and continued the attack. Hence the spatter evidence referenced. I suspect that this was a head injury with multiple lacerations. Once T came to her senses, she realized she'd gone too far. I suspect that at the very least Gannon had suffered a concussion, along with multiple lacerations from the attack. Head wounds are notorious for bleeding in profuse amounts. From my experience, I've had patients who bled through towels, chucks, and pillows in under 15 minutes under less severe circumstances. Hence the pooling of blood on the mattress and floor. Eventually the bleeding will stop on it's own to a point that is controlled with bandaging. In the very beginning of the RD video, we see the truck parked at the curb. T leaves the truck, enters the house and then returns to the truck with a large duffle type suitcase over her shoulder, the ends of it fully extended out (I suspect the board and soiled clothing are in this). She puts this in the front seat of the truck, then proceeds to back the truck into the driveway. She leaves and then comes back out with Gannon. He has a dark knit cap pulled down on his head. He's lethargic. He drops the electronic device in his hand and can't seem to register a response. (I suspect this is the twitch) this behavior, along with T's comments about stomach/bowel issues and sickness are what lead me to believe that he is suffering from a concussion. She's made a decision at this point, and sets the tragedy in motion. I doubt she did come back with him. The activity once T returned home was desperately cleaning up the mess which included changing the bed. I suspect the trash bags of evidence were concealed in the Tiguan. The truck would not show blood evidence because the wounds were no longer bleeding profusely enough to contaminate it.
So, there's more but this is a start which is strictly my speculation and opinion, and not to be taken as anything more than a theory.
Yes I think so too. I think an act of violence that she knew could not be explained away to Al on the 28th when he came home. An act that she knew would need medical treatment which would cause too many questions. Add in the fear that G would tell Al or a Doctor what really happened. I think while she was up all night on Sunday she was coming up with a way to make it all go away. Just make G disappear. She thinks so highly of herself she assumed she could fool everyone into believing her. She probably thought Al would believe her. I think the 4 hour trip was her trying to come up with a plan. I think she searched out a place to hide him and something went wrong. There had to be a wrench in that plan for her to come back home and risk leaving a crime scene with two other kids due to come homeI agree. I think it was a two phased attack too.
Thanks for your summary. That's where my thoughts are at this point, too. Another poster pointed out that LE may not have seen Gannon return home Monday on the neighbors video, but they heard a second truck door close. Hence their conclusions. MOOYes I think so too. I think an act of violence that she knew could not be explained away to Al on the 28th when he came home. An act that she knew would need medical treatment which would cause too many questions. Add in the fear that G would tell Al or a Doctor what really happened. I think while she was up all night on Sunday she was coming up with a way to make it all go away. Just make G disappear. She thinks so highly of herself she assumed she could fool everyone into believing her. She probably thought Al would believe her. I think the 4 hour trip was her trying to come up with a plan. I think she searched out a place to hide him and something went wrong. There had to be a wrench in that plan for her to come back home and risk leaving a crime scene with two other kids due to come home
You wrote this at 4:26 am.... And you could lay this out step by step and logic by logic. Kudos to you!!!I honestly thought she would try to testify but then I saw her at the hearing looking crazy and hiding behind her lawyer so... Im guessing she's going for more insanity. Outbursts, having troubles like "psychosis", stuff like that. I dont think she's crazy like in the way she looked at her hearing. I think she's now pretending to be that way same as with the attack on the officers.
The more I've thought about her actions, it seems very clear that she requires approval at all times. I think thats part of continuously talking. She knew she was guilty but kept on explaining and explaining and I think the only thing that makes sense is she needs to be validated all the time and thats why she had to keep explaining herself. I think she probably has borderline personality disorder based on some of the things we've seen. BPD is usually related to childhood abandonment issues/neglect which can even take shape when parents are in the home but checked out completely with drug or alcohol abuse. It's abandonment just in a different form.
Back to TS it seems consistent with using femininity or sexuality in the ways as she has. There is luring men and then there is accusing them. There isn't really a place for in between. Those things can get the attention she needs. BPD relationships are very explosive too. It's very much with me or against me and this is a guess, but HH's adoration is part of how she gets recognized herself and stays on the very good side of her mother. Criticism of any kind is seen as rejection and that can cause outbursts, petty behavior, potentially abuse. I want to be careful here because a lot of really nice people have BPD. It is just that it can cause outbursts and sometimes violence goes along with that just due to overall poor emotional regulation and there will always be extreme cases outside the typical presentation.
There is also a lot of evidence of this needing approval and validation like doing the fake "good stepmom" stuff. We can guess this isn't the first time Gannon suffered at least verbal abuse and manipulation for perceived slights against TS. Or even AS disagreeing with something regarding the kids could also put Gannon in the crosshairs. There is also a lot of evidence of the "blow ups". People piss her off and now shes suing a principal for sexual harassment or bomb threats.
The blow up is also evident when you look at her searches. She's mad at AS about choosing family over her which is rejection. She's upset about not being noticed with suggestive pics to AS. Shes mad that LH isn't adoring her the way she should. I wouldn't call that rejection but with someone who has very black and white relationships (MOO) I think it would be seen as rejection. I'm not saying that the AS or LH owed her that because its clear she's a really unreasonable person. She expects adoration, but she will rub everything she does in your face since youre not proving it enough. I'm sure the searches about LH weren't from a sad state, but a screw you state that she was going to broadcast on social media or something. They were clearly to create something to post online to really elevate herself while putting LH down.
Then we learned that in this "blow up" phase after AS left, she is searching for apartments in other states. She was done with AS and LH. I can't help but think killing Gannon was her last "blow up". There is probably a lot that happened when Al left between them. And she was already stewing on something LH posted which is why she was irritated about LH getting her nails done or whatever (just a guess on my part since the search about nails is kind of specific). There probably was an additional stressor with the kids like maybe Gannon was sick or one of them was acting out (real or perceived). I think killing Gannon was her break up with AS as sick as that is. I only say that because its not like she killed him and that was that. She then hid his body which isn't that strange since most people dont want prison for life. The weird part is defending yourself on social, going on the news while demanding people apologize to you, kind of leading the people who cared about him on that he might still be alive, telling AS all these stories that "he wanted to hear". I think she enjoyed inflicting the pain after. I think it was her final "gotcha" because she started a fire by murdering someone's child and then continued to pour gasoline on it. The news interview I think also ties into her perception of being rejected by the public UNJUSTLY. Obviously, in her mind, these people have no right to criticize her. She has a list of reasons on her why you shouldnt by the way. Anyway thats my take on it.
Now I'm a bit confused. I thought RD said on his video he could hear her door slam, doors lock and garage door open?Thanks for your summary. That's where my thoughts are at this point, too. Another poster pointed out that LE may not have seen Gannon return home Monday on the neighbors video, but they heard a second truck door close. Hence their conclusions. MOO
That's what I recall too - just watched a TV interview with him recently (can't keep track of days during lockdown....last week perhaps?). He was at home and his wife added to the interview by saying TS seemed like she was at a BBQ the next day. RD mentions the sound of the door, iirc, in that interview.Now I'm a bit confused. I thought RD said on his video he could hear her door slam, doors lock and garage door open?
Me too. I don't recall reading about a lot of this audio evidence in the interviews with RD, or any of it being noted in the affidavit? The audio clues really leave me confused.Now I'm a bit confused. I thought RD said on his video he could hear her door slam, doors lock and garage door open?
Trying to make sense of LE's conclusion that Gannon returned home, it would seem that LE would have heard two doors shut , in order to draw that conclusion. If T's door was heard, the othe door would be heard. And if two doors could not be heard, how could LE come to that conclusion? Just where my thoughts are at this point. MOOMe too. I don't recall reading about a lot of this audio evidence in the interviews with RD, or any of it being noted in the affidavit? The audio clues really leave me confused.
I'm sorry if this has been covered already. I've been super busy making masks for the medical establishments and police/fire in our area and haven't had a chance to read all the threads. Have the figured out how Gannon wound up in Florida and how his stepmother got him there? I watched some YouTubers who had been doing math on the rental car mileage a couple weeks ago but then I got so busy making masks (over a thousand by myself) that I haven't had a real chance to watch/read any stuff.
According to what I read, she had been hired as a teacher and had already started orientation. She was due to continue the orientation on Monday.Well, the system does allow for the availability status as “not available” so your phone doesn’t ring off the wall starting at 6AM-auto dialer to registered subs. In this case, I believe she had an assignment on the books for Monday, then woke to cancel it on the job board. On a side note, the system only allows a cancellation via web/job board up to 5:59AM (day of assignment) it’s then locked and you have to call in the cancellation so it can be added back to the job board. Ha, I worked many years as a sub while my kids were young, most systems run this way, very efficient. Also, going off my memory, I remember thinking LS must have been placed into a long term substitute teaching assignment (all speculation) while the district completed her “Professional” license background check. All speculation tho...
1000 masks! Thanks to you!I'm sorry if this has been covered already. I've been super busy making masks for the medical establishments and police/fire in our area and haven't had a chance to read all the threads. Have the figured out how Gannon wound up in Florida and how his stepmother got him there? I watched some YouTubers who had been doing math on the rental car mileage a couple weeks ago but then I got so busy making masks (over a thousand by myself) that I haven't had a real chance to watch/read any stuff.
I'm sorry if this has been covered already. I've been super busy making masks for the medical establishments and police/fire in our area and haven't had a chance to read all the threads. Have the figured out how Gannon wound up in Florida and how his stepmother got him there? I watched some YouTubers who had been doing math on the rental car mileage a couple weeks ago but then I got so busy making masks (over a thousand by myself) that I haven't had a real chance to watch/read any stuff.
Who is T? Why such a monstrous act? That has been up for contemplation by all of us as our hearts break for the fate of Gannon; an innocent little boy who never, never deserved any of this.
Simply put, I am convinced that T is a sociopath. Every bit of the behavior including past behavior fits into every single symptom known to profile a sociopath.
I mean, just look at this and tell me this isn't T to a T.
(I couldn't resist that).
- Glibness and Superficial Charm
- Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
- Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
- Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
- Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
- Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
- Incapacity for Love
- Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
- Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
- Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
- Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
- Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
- Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
- Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
- Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
Who is T? Why such a monstrous act? That has been up for contemplation by all of us as our hearts break for the fate of Gannon; an innocent little boy who never, never deserved any of this.
Simply put, I am convinced that T is a sociopath. Every bit of the behavior including past behavior fits into every single symptom known to profile a sociopath.
I mean, just look at this and tell me this isn't T to a T.
(I couldn't resist that).
- Glibness and Superficial Charm
- Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
- Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
- Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
- Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
- Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
- Incapacity for Love
- Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
- Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
- Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
- Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
- Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
- Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
- Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
- Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
I think she was calling in to say she wouldn't be able to attend orientation.So she was reporting that she was not available to accept a substitute job on Monday? Is that required?