Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, Lorson Ranch, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *endangered* #15

[gitana1]

Trusting the process

The sheriff's office says they know how invested the public has become in the case and understand the community's desire to know as much as possible.

But they maintain that they cannot release more information than they already are without compromising the investigation.

"Unfortunately, we live in a society where the need to know is more than it has ever been in that demand to know ... there is nothing that the sheriff's office is going to release to satisfy the public curiosity over and above what we have because that would compromise the integrity of this investigation. And we're not going to do that to Gannon and we're not going to do that to Gannon's family," Kirby said on Feb. 18.

ENDANGERED: 11-year-old Colorado boy has been missing for more than 3 weeks

I think this is what is new in the update.

I really like that. And it’s crazy true how entitled we’ve become for information. I mean I see people saying the police need to release information because the public is getting angry or restless. What the heck? This is a criminal investigation. They’re trying to find a kid. Our curiosity, our fears or emotions have zero to do with this case.

As much as I want to know what’s happening I’m going to just have to be patient and trust that the professionals know what they’re doing and they’re on it.

 

[VRQ112]

Didn't someone here state it was an adult?

Body found in northwest Colorado Springs, homicide investigation underway

This article says the body discovered in Colorado Springs is a "man".

 

[gitana1]

I think they are asking to link to the FRONT page of Websleuths. That has the banner about this case along with Faye. I wish I could help!

Click on home.

 

[lonetraveler]

I can't get this thought out of my mind. When I read TS saying how Gannon cut his foot, she bandaged it while he was propped on the car and then he was "good to go". And then she goes on about Gannon going repeatedly to the gate because he had the only key to the gate? Could he have been injured by her in her rage and tried to run away from her by running to the gate?

 

[esmerelda]

Click on home.

Yes. And that's what the OP is asking. If you click home and on Gannon post it links to thread # 9. OP wants it to link to latest thread.... Thank you

 

[BeckyF]

I really like that. And it’s crazy true how entitled we’ve become for information. I mean I see people saying the police need to release information because the public is getting angry or restless. What the heck? This is a criminal investigation. They’re trying to find a kid. Our curiosity, our fears or emotions have zero to do with this case.

As much as I want to know what’s happening I’m going to just have to be patient and trust that the professionals know what they’re doing and they’re on it.

Good reminder for everyone!

 

[gitana1]

Yes. And that's what the OP is asking. If you click home and on Gannon post it links to thread # 9. OP wants it to link to latest thread.... Thank you

Ohhhhh!! Yeah. The easiest way I think to get back to the latest thread of a case is to click on “new posts”. Works for me.

 

[justme11]

I think they are asking to link to the FRONT page of Websleuths. That has the banner about this case along with Faye. I wish I could help!

Oh whoops!

 

[momrids6]

Man you all are fast. I'm like 4 days behind, so this may have been covered, but what if the shadow was someone getting out of the truck, but not Gannon? Or someone walking to retrieve something from the back seat coming from the house? Shopping bags or whatever. I don't know how tinted the truck's windows are, but I'd imagine a smaller person in a stocking cap wouldn't be that identifiable on surveillance footage through any window.

I find it nearly impossible to comprehend LE NOT releasing video of Gannon leaving the residence by himself, with a friend, or with a stranger. If nothing more than the public to see what he was wearing, his gait, or in the event of a kidnapping, the kidnapper.

RSBM :

scroll down; source; https://krdo.com/news/2020/01/30/au...yUyUDbEhUtCcNEvQN4MuJ8JS1kWWdwBh1_HPs98Ogkx6Q

 

[10ofRods]

Except that the areas they are looking do not have cliffs that are close to vehicular access. You'd have to walk, carry, or drag someone, and someone would know, or have a very, very hard time getting to that place alone. I'm just not seeing it. You can park and go for a hike, and shove someone off the cliff, yes. But where they are looking, you can't drive up Spruce Mountain and do that. Or drive into the S curve. So I just don't get it--meaning, why someone would PLAN a nefarious activity 40 miles from home here. There are plenty of places closer to CSprings where people can drive up and just toss someone out of a car off a cliff. In contrast, further west into the mountains, there are the remains of downed planes from WWII-era, many of which are still so hard to get to and took MONTHS for the trackers to find when the planes originally crashed.

But his body is not at the S curve. His body isn't any of the places that they've searched so far. There are several places where a person could drive close (like Limbaugh Canyon - closer to CS than Spruce Mountain). It's notoriously hard to find people in brush in ravines. He didn't need to be shoved off a cliff, he only had to be down a ravine that was difficult to climb out. He may have been injured. If he turned up alive, she would have changed her story again (he got out and ran away while we were up there, we had a little tiff).

I agree that there are places that are closer, but we aren't the ones who had Gannon in our car. Who knows where the driver had been and what he or she knew about CS?

I could see this taking months if body recovery becomes the goal.

 

[esmerelda]

Ohhhhh!! Yeah. The easiest way I think to get back to the latest thread of a case is to click on “new posts”. Works for me.

Ok. But the headline says trending discussions, and anyone who is interested will be directed to thread #9 and not here. I think this is what OP was getting at. Why the headline doesn't update

 

[Murphy1950]

Ohhhhh!! Yeah. The easiest way I think to get back to the latest thread of a case is to click on “new posts”. Works for me.

Where is new post, my I ask . I don't see that option?

ETA Thanks someone has posted where it' Located.

 

[jimprobable]

I do not believe that a day removed from sifting snow for days on end that this case is on the verge of going cold.

I had posted as I did about the Gannon Stauch case potentially becoming "cold" partly because I wonder if law enforcement may have issued the statement it did (that it was temporarily ceasing its search efforts in Douglas County) as a sort of "testing the waters" (to provoke and gauge public response) to prepare the public for the possible eventuality (if GS is not found, one way or another) when it may have to stop actively investigating the case. Certainly LE is not above utilizing public relations and political strategies just as is any other governmental entity.

I thought it was probably still too soon, even after three weeks with not even a person of interest named, to label a case "cold" simply out of the perception by some not much progress has recently been made. But I also genuinely wanted to know what others in this Websleuths forum think about what may have motivated LE to cease the search efforts in the GS case temporarily, particularly since it hsa evidently been searching in that location so feverishly..

It is certainly difficult to figure out what is happening when so much is not being told to the public about the GS case. Many assume, and often correctly so, that LE withholds information for good reason and as part of an overall strategy, if it is pursuing a possible suspect, to have all the evidence it requires to make a conviction "stick." But LE, like any government agency, is also not above a face-saving mindset, would not wish to admit it is almost as baffled as the relatively unknowing public it serves, or hasn't progressed as much in a case as would be expected of it. Governments routinely lies and withholds information. That is partly why public information officers and press secretaries are hired, to be gatekeepers and disseminate smokescreens, to keep the public from knowing what it doesn't want us to know until it wants us to know it (if ever).

I could also probably say something about the fault of the local media as it pertains to this case, but would have to study it more before forming a final evaluation of the Colorado and Denver press corps. Sometimes local press, like many sports reporters and any deeply embedded journalists, are guilty of being "in bed with" and taking too much at face value from local government, though.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

How long was this plan in the works? Accomplice?

 

[stattlich1]

Is this true in Colorado? I was under the impression that EPOs still need to go through a judge.

There are some legal issues that arise with this entire discussion regarding searches, etc.

There's been no criminal charge in this case, zero, none, nada, zilch, zEEEro.

So, unless you are going to arrest me officer, get off my property.

If you want to come in my home, get a warrant.

I don't know if they got a warrant to search AS's home, they possibly did not need one, as he may have given consent. Consent may not have been possible if TS had been living there and denied the search. Then a warrant would likely have been needed.

There is this little thing in the United States called the Constitution. It spells out certain things. LE has no right on my property, or to enter my home, unless I give consent, or am charged with a crime, a crime is in the process of being committed/had been committed, or they have a warrant.

Up until now we technically have no criminal charge.

 

[GordianKnot]

"Unfortunately, we live in a society where the need to know is more than it has ever been in that demand to know ... there is nothing that the sheriff's office is going to release to satisfy the public curiosity over and above what we have because that would compromise the integrity of this investigation. And we're not going to do that to Gannon and we're not going to do that to Gannon's family," Kirby said on Feb. 18.

ENDANGERED: 11-year-old Colorado boy has been missing for more than 3 weeks

I think this is what is new in the update.

SABBM:

There are only a few updates that I think LE will provide to the public if/as these developments occur:

1. Announcement that the case has changed to a criminal investigation.
2. An arrest r/t GS's case
3. Discovery of GS's body

Barring those developments, the only info I see LE providing the public is general information such as updated # of tips received, names of any additional agencies assisting in search efforts, etc.

They're not going to confirm any rumors or speculation about evidence.
They're not going to be discussing trips to stores or carpets or GOTG hikes or shadows in driveways.
Nor should they.

LE needs to safeguard the investigation.
It's their way of protecting Gannon's best interests.

Somebody needs to look out for GS here.
The adults living in that house sure didn't.

JMO.

 

[Best of What's Around]

I can't get this thought out of my mind. When I read TS saying how Gannon cut his foot, she bandaged it while he was propped on the car and then he was "good to go". And then she goes on about Gannon going repeatedly to the gate because he had the only key to the gate? Could he have been injured by her in her rage and tried to run away from her by running to the gate?

Could be but my personal take is she had a case of pre-splaining vomit - making it hard to follow bc so much mud is being flung at the wall in rapid fire butt-covering succession. So I took it to possibly mean he left through a side gate (to presplain his non-existent departure on footage that may come out) or perhaps there might be blood on the side gate? She tends to make little, if any, sense to me.

 

[MamaOV]

Where is new post, my I ask . I don't see that option?

One of the tabs on the grey bar at the top of each page. HTH.

 

[JTR1973]

SABBM:

There are only a few updates that I think LE will provide to the public if/as these developments occur:

1. Announcement that the case has changed to a criminal investigation.
2. An arrest r/t GS's case
3. Discovery of GS's body

Barring those developments, the only info I see LE providing the public is general information such as updated # of tips received, names of any additional agencies assisting in search efforts, etc.

They're not going to confirm any rumors or speculation about evidence.
They're not going to be discussing trips to stores or carpets or GOTG hikes or shadows in driveways.
Nor should they.

LE needs to safeguard the investigation.
It's their way of protecting Gannon's best interests.

Somebody needs to look out for GS here.
The adults living in that house sure didn't.

JMO.

As much as I want information, I 100% agree with this. I am glad LE is handling it this way because my hope is that when it comes time for justice for Gannon, they have an air-tight, iron-clad case against anyone responsible for this child’s disappearance.

 

[justme11]

Could be but my personal take is she had a case of pre-splaining vomit - making it hard to follow bc so much mud is being flung at the wall in rapid fire butt-covering succession. So I took it to possibly mean he left through a side gate (to presplain his non-existent departure on footage that may come out) or perhaps there might be blood on the side gate? She tends to make little, if any, sense to me.

OMG...you have me laughing so hard! Hands down you win the internet for 'pre-splaining vomit' AND 'rapid fire butt-covering succession'!!