CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #16

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I'm thinking maybe these receipts or receipts were found in the bag that the store put these other bags and items in and the receipt was left in that bag.I do this all the time.My receipts are left in the bag from the store I got my stuff from.
 
I'm caught up, here are a few of my thoughts

Although I'm not sure if it is CONFIRMED that her clothes were in her bookbag, I can add that my fifth grader often has friends arrange to come home Fridays with her on the bus to sleep over, and the girls have no problem fitting pjs, next day clothes, and toiletries in their bookbags along with their school stuff.

The receipt being found near-ish to the body? I don't see the perp taking the time to dismember, drop the bookbag with her clothes in a different neighborhood, then tossing an incriminating receipt where it could be found and connected. OT but my former neighbor was a close friend, and we would often run daytime errands together, get out nails done together, run to the store and buy stuff for dinner together, and she was a closer smoker and I saw the lengths she would go to to make sure her husband never found her cigarette receipts (lol), tearing them, trashing them immediately, etc.. My point is, people know that receipts tie them to things. That is crime 101. There is always the murdered wife and the husband on tape buying duct tape, Trash bags, and a shovel o_O. IMO this perp is local and buys his trash bags where most locals buy their trash bags and used what he had on hand. It would be great if that receipt busts him, but it would surprise me because although I don't see him as a genius, I don't see him THAT sloppy, either.

Hair: there are 3 females with long hair in my house and a Siberian husky. You should see what my Dyson collects. But still, I rarely see a "clump" of hair unless someone cleaned a brush, and that is usually a mix if old brittle hair and lint (sorry) and looks very different from, say, freshly pulled hair. IMO a "clump" or "tuft" that remained intact while outside with wind and elements would have to be significant, and IMO would mean a salon's trash or a violent crime. Most people have hair in the world, but how many of us have found a "tuft of hair" in a park?
 
Hair from some long-haired dogs can look amazingly similar. A blond cocker spaniel, Afghan, possibly even a very pale golden retriever or collie.

You can tell dog hair and you can smell dog hair!
 
This article is full of "reportedly" but if it's remotely accurate, this made my hair stand on end -

Fox 31 Denver has also learned about two receipts discovered in an open field near where Ridgeway’s remains were placed.

Portions of Ridgeway’s remains were found on a black garbage bag, though it is unclear whether her remains were once inside. One of the two receipts had garbage bags as an item purchased on it.


The remains were "placed", which implies they were not tossed, thrown, or dumped, rather set down with intention (much like her bookbag)

"portions" of the remains were "on" black bags. Not IN them, near them, beside them, but apparently placed on the bags.

If this is part of the 40% that is accurate, the crime scene is most definitely staged.

I imagine Jessica was placed for maximum impact, ditto the hair - the person who found the hair was apparently "unsettled" by it so I'm guessing it's obviously not animal hair, further, placed in some way designed intentionally to shock.

All of this is my opinion only based on what we "know" right now, which is not confirmed.

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I am wondering why the receipt was in the garbage bag.

Garbage bags I purchase are either in a box or on a roll.

Or was it a bag from shopping that was larger and not an actual garbage bag that is purchased as a garbage bag?

I pictured a black bag. But maybe not?

The receipts were not IN the bag: "Fox 31 Denver has also learned about two receipts discovered in an open field near where Ridgeway’s remains were placed." - http://kdvr.com/2012/10/21/exclusiv...uspect-linked-to-unsolved-attack-sources-say/

Some threads back a local mentioned that the local garbage dump is not far from where the body was left. That winds blew trash from the dump all over the open space and that is one reason that crews are sent out - to pick up trash that had blown around. I have no link to the post(s) where this was said but I remember it.

The receipts could easily have nothing to do with Jessica or her killer. Likely LE is covering all the bases by checking out every piece of evidence to see it is related.

JMO.
 
Well if the perp is the owner of those receipts I feel it is only a matter of time before he is caught. They would now know pretty much where this person lives..at least a general area and could pull up everyone in that radius and start combing through them. Might take some time, but eventually they will figure it out. They just have to find someone who had Friday alone/unaccounted for..then most of a weekend to themselves..etc etc etc. Most likely a male, most likely single IDK but I'm sure the FBI has given a pretty good profile of what to look for.
 
The article was snipped, Etilema:

Police responded to a bar on S. Chambers Road late in the night of October 16 when a woman told them she was approached by two men in a small white car who asked her for directions.

The woman said she started to give them directions when the male passenger got out of the car, came up from behind her and tried to put a towel over her mouth. She said she knocked him to the ground and ran inside the bar to call police.


http://www.9news.com/news/article/2...pted-kidnapping-?odyssey=tab|topnews|bc|large

Thanks, that helps. Also interesting about the "towel over her mouth" thing, because of similarities to other cases we are wondering about.


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Which incident was the May incident that they feel this Perp is also connected to? We have discussed so much I have forgotten.
 
This article is full of "reportedly" but if it's remotely accurate, this made my hair stand on end -

Fox 31 Denver has also learned about two receipts discovered in an open field near where Ridgeway’s remains were placed.

Portions of Ridgeway’s remains were found on a black garbage bag, though it is unclear whether her remains were once inside. One of the two receipts had garbage bags as an item purchased on it.


The remains were "placed", which implies they were not tossed, thrown, or dumped, rather set down with intention (much like her bookbag)

"portions" of the remains were "on" black bags. Not IN them, near them, beside them, but apparently placed on the bags.

If this is part of the 40% that is accurate, the crime scene is most definitely staged.

I imagine Jessica was placed for maximum impact, ditto the hair - the person who found the hair was apparently "unsettled" by it so I'm guessing it's obviously not animal hair, further, placed in some way designed intentionally to shock.

All of this is my opinion only based on what we "know" right now, which is not confirmed.

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If this version is true ("on garbage bags"), the Fox report would be more credible than the Denver Post article. Right now, my feeling is that the Denver Post article seems much more thorough and meticulous. JMO


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It's important to realize how windy these areas are, with all the open spaces without trees. I lived in Jessica's neighborhood and the wind would blow so hard that sometimes it would sound like the roof was going to come off. The windows would rattle like crazy. Trucks have been blown over on Hwy 93 (just west of this area) before. The searchers were dealing with 38 mph winds a few days ago. So it obviously makes LE's job a lot harder when sorting through evidence, all kinds of debris can get blown far from where it was dropped.
 
If the remains were not IN the bag, then what is with the story of the trash collectors finding an odd bag and having animal control look in it? Sounds to me like the newest report had an accidental "I" instead of "O" keystroke.
 
How on earth would they find an identical trash bag what the ?! =]
 
...and I was thinking WHERE the 'dismembering' of the body could be done without leaving much traces, without getting much attention from outside world and having all 'accessories' needed? So far, this monster has access to car(s), chemicals, saw, cleaning facility (this reference would be true if JR remains were not fully covered in blood)...changing cars (we heard blue/dark blue/white sedan)...and here what I have in mind: is there any used car dealership or car repair garage in the nearby area?...usually, garage property is the stand-alone building with all above mentioned accessories available: chemicals, saw, cars, cleaning...and the most important, any noise would be attributed to innocent event....just the thoughts for possibility versa private house/appartment...

...of course, unfortunately, history shows that such a gruesome acts could be done in appartments....:(

jmo


Perhaps.

I think it's likely the substance he has been putting on the rags and using unsuccessfully may be engine starting fluid or some other automotive chemical. I can imagine some moron seeing "ether" on the label and doing that.
 
Finding a grocery store receipt downwind from an active landfill isn't exactly odd. How do they know it's connected to the case and not just trash that blew in from the landfill?

I was wondering the same thing. Pretty ambigous. There must be a reason the think it is connected. I would think there would be tons of various receipts in a field. jmo
 
I understand wind can blow..so it would also make sense that the receipts and hair could have blown from the original site where the body was found to where they were found recently right? I mean hair and receipts would blow around a lot easier. Guess we will just have to wait and see if they are at all related to this case.
 
I'm caught up, here are a few of my thoughts

Although I'm not sure if it is CONFIRMED that her clothes were in her bookbag, I can add that my fifth grader often has friends arrange to come home Fridays with her on the bus to sleep over, and the girls have no problem fitting pjs, next day clothes, and toiletries in their bookbags along with their school stuff.

The receipt being found near-ish to the body? I don't see the perp taking the time to dismember, drop the bookbag with her clothes in a different neighborhood, then tossing an incriminating receipt where it could be found and connected. OT but my former neighbor was a close friend, and we would often run daytime errands together, get out nails done together, run to the store and buy stuff for dinner together, and she was a closer smoker and I saw the lengths she would go to to make sure her husband never found her cigarette receipts (lol), tearing them, trashing them immediately, etc.. My point is, people know that receipts tie them to things. That is crime 101. There is always the murdered wife and the husband on tape buying duct tape, Trash bags, and a shovel o_O. IMO this perp is local and buys his trash bags where most locals buy their trash bags and used what he had on hand. It would be great if that receipt busts him, but it would surprise me because although I don't see him as a genius, I don't see him THAT sloppy, either.

Hair: there are 3 females with long hair in my house and a Siberian husky. You should see what my Dyson collects. But still, I rarely see a "clump" of hair unless someone cleaned a brush, and that is usually a mix if old brittle hair and lint (sorry) and looks very different from, say, freshly pulled hair. IMO a "clump" or "tuft" that remained intact while outside with wind and elements would have to be significant, and IMO would mean a salon's trash or a violent crime. Most people have hair in the world, but how many of us have found a "tuft of hair" in a park?

I agree about the hair, unless someone was grooming their dog outside (like in the park) and pulling the hair out of the brush.

JMO


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I was wondering the same thing. Pretty ambigous. There must be a reason the think it is connected. I would think there would be tons of various receipts in a field. jmo

It might be that the receipt lists garbage bags, so LE would be remiss if they didn't follow up, even if they don't expect it to help.

JMO


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I'm inclined to believe the receipts either don't exist, don't exist in a readable form, or were placed (staged) too.

Why a perp would go to this extreme, I have no idea.

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If it ISN'T staged, this has got to be the most careless and unfocused perp/s I've ever heard of.

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If the remains were not IN the bag, then what is with the story of the trash collectors finding an odd bag and having animal control look in it? Sounds to me like the newest report had an accidental "I" instead of "O" keystroke.

Maybe they have found more than one set of remains.
 
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