CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #13 *ARREST*

[PommyMommy]

I wonder who initiated that change???

If his eventual plans are to plead guilty, I doubt he could ever afford the private attorney who was representing him.
MOO

 

[bestill]

Clayton Sandell on Twitter
Patrick Frazee is now being represented by a public defender, @CarolAMcKinley and @gobeckygo report. We have reached out to him for comment but have not heard back. @ABCWorldNews @ABC #KelseyBerreth

Whoa! Guess someone didn't want to put the ranch up as collateral to represent him...jmo

 

[Warwick7]

Clayton Sandell on Twitter
Patrick Frazee is now being represented by a public defender, @CarolAMcKinley and @gobeckygo report. We have reached out to him for comment but have not heard back. @ABCWorldNews @ABC #KelseyBerreth

A public defender???

 

[CrimeAddict]

Maybe whoever funded the other lawyer gave PF a big FU today.[/QUOTE
Maybe they don't have the money and can't afford him.. or he has been lying the whole time to his attorney and then they dumped him.

 

[gitana1]

In that booking photo it looks like PF was hit between the eyes with a dose of reality.

Love. It.

 

[Trudie]

Maybe craigslist. It worked for Natalie Bollinger in Colorado...

I have a nagging suspicion someone on his rodeo circuit.
Someone he knew would be in CO around Tday. Had that person agreed, PF would have had a half butt chance at a lighter sentence. It’d be his word against the murderer. He, of course, would have denied any such convo occurred, professed his love for K, etc. A jury might have believed him.

 

[gitana1]

A public defender???

@PommyMommy - Thank you so much for posting that photo!! I was looking for the video to compare a screen shot of that with his mugshot.

 

[yawningreyhound]

ok, one last dig at PF's mug today, he looks beady eyed compared to the width of his head.

 

[Peppery]

Every time I see his mug shot....

 

[MassGuy]

ODG--you changed your avatar!! Who is that guy?

Tom Brady, showing off his Super Bowl rings.

They’re distracting, I know!

 

[GHgal]

 

[scdiv]

Perhaps he did it over the internet? Visited shady sites or asked "how to find an assassin"? Some people seem to believe that they can hide their actions on a computer.

Or ask Siri for suggestions.

Clayton Sandell on Twitter
Patrick Frazee is now being represented by a public defender, @CarolAMcKinley and @gobeckygo report. We have reached out to him for comment but have not heard back. @ABCWorldNews @ABC #KelseyBerreth

Do you think for some reason that his criminal defense attorney didn't want the case? Or just pure financial reasons that he can't afford a top legal team? (This is a pretty big headline case that could be possibly worth doing for the publicity?) I have no idea.

 

[gitana1]

Maybe whoever funded the other lawyer gave PF a big FU today.

Or there's no funds for a murder defense. I mean advising a suspect is one thing. Not close to as costly.

 

[UKslueth2018]

Pleased they have arrested him but so very sad for Kelsey and her family... I can't imagine murdering anyone under any circumstances let alone trying to arrange someone else to do it.. Some people are more messed up than we realise until it's clearly too late...

 

[bestill]

Just don't call Jose Baez

 

[moonlessnight]

also possible. Colorado legalized marijuana while we were there. My ex started smoking a lot and using edibles.

As one of my criminal justice professors said back in the day, it’s “the wacky weed”.

 

[PommyMommy]

Or ask Siri for suggestions.


Do you think for some reason that his criminal defense attorney didn't want the case? Or just pure financial reasons that he can't afford a top legal team? (This is a pretty big headline case that could be possibly worth doing for the publicity?) I have no idea.

I'm guessing financial. It would be an outrageous amount of money for a private attorney.
MOO

 

[Trudie]

These guys have no regards for anyone. Not even their own mothers. Crimes as such destroy more than the victim’s family. IMO.

 

[BRRI]

ODG--you changed your avatar!! Who is that guy?

That guy is a jerk (Tom Brady) And definitely not who it should be (Eli Manning)

 

[jewelsmac]

Innocent until proven guilty is for juries. The rest of us can use our cognitive thinking skills to determine what is more probable and what is less likely. And I would like to point out that almost no one here stated he murdered Kelsey. Pretty much everyone discussed the probabilities and how they were leaning and why.

There's nothing wrong though with discussing all theories. That's what websleuths is for. It's engaging and I've learned a lot from other posters over the years.

And that's exactly what we did in this case - discussed ALL theories.

Also, there's nothing wrong IMO with deciding to wait to determine one's opinion, until more has been released even though we aren't jurors.

<modsnip - generalizing about other posters>

this^ I felt that the site was for discussing these ideas, but have seen a lot of chastising in the short time I’ve been lurking.. didn’t want to be the newbie loser who was asking why that was happening. Thanks for putting it in grown-up words and sparing me embarrassment.