CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #23 *ARREST*

[kay74]

Main Stream Media

Thanks

 

[Gardener1850]

This is a perfect example of where we are fact finding. Twitter isn’t necessarily a fact finding forum. MY OPINION.

We are allowed to post tweets from verified MSM News reporters or from LE sources (Sheriff's office accounts for example).

 

[Blueberry2720]

Do they have a picture of IN, a name?

yes, many people do, but we are not allowed to post it here on WS

 

[kay74]

Her name is known but we cannot use it here. ETA: It appears that MSM is withholding her name for now.

Thanks

 

[Charlot123]

I submit respectfully and for what it’s worth, in order to fully investigate something, one has to be open to gathering data from all available resources, examine that data carefully to ascertain what is indeed fact and discard what is fiction and then put the pieces of fact together to solve the mystery. While it is nice to be able to chat about what is sourced by MSM, it feels stifling not to be able to sift through data that is possibly relevant here as a “village” in the furtherance of putting this all together. I’m fairly new here. I do respect the rules, though honestly, I’ve been tripped up a couple of times now. And I still haven’t figured out private messaging btw...sorry.

Just wanted to greet you as you said you were pretty new here. Hope you will sort out the message system!

 

[susiQ]

Update. I must be getting very old and Misremembering things.

I just tried it again.

I put my phone in airplane mode and then did a text. I then turned my phone off. I then came back and turn my phone on but left it for a while. I then came back to the phone and put in my ID and password.

It still did not send the text because it was still in airplane mode. I had to take it out of airplane mode before it was sent.

Well there goes that theory if the phone was a Samsung 7, is it would not have sent a text automatically that he had put in before in an airplane mode and it got sent out when she turned on the phone.

My IPhone 5, same thing. I'm guessing there's a very good reason cell phone manufacturers have it that way. Unless, someone else here does this little experiment on their phone and gets a different result, can we can put this myth to rest?

 

[Jessthinkin]

This is a perfect example of where we are fact finding. Twitter isn’t necessarily a fact finding forum. MY OPINION.

The tweets I’ve seen posted here are from MSM reporters.... it’s still MSM, but with Twitter as the platform...

 

[oviedo]

Hi, oviedo! The Nurse lives in Twin Falls, Idaho.
A Colorado news station probably sent a team to Idaho to cover the story from that end.

Ahh that makes sense - I thought she may also have a home in CO - thank you!

 

[kay74]

yes, many people do, but we are not allowed to post it here on WS

ok I'll go look for it.

 

[PommyMommy]

I believe you, I just want to see the video for myself. It takes a while sometimes for live videos to show up. Here is KOAA's you tube channel: KOAA 5
I don't see it there yet but they just added a video 9 minutes ago so it may pop up there soon. Thanks for the info on where to look.

They also replay earlier broadcasts here Livestream | KOAA.com.
"If there is live newscast, you’ll see a LIVE button in the top left corner. If we’re not currently live streaming, you’ll see a REPLAY button instead and our most recent newscast segment will appear and repeat."

I haven't seen anything but the weather, but still listening.

 

[oviedo]

1/4/19 1:30 PM 3.50H FRAZEE, PATRICK Motions Hearing D602018CR330 Teller County DIV 11 - TELLER DISTRICT COURT
Colorado Judicial Branch - Teller County - Dockets

1:30 PM MST
2:30 PM CST
12:30 PM PST
3:30 PM ET

Someone asked for this information - Thanks Pommy

 

[gitana1]

No one said we were on a jury, or that we weren’t free to decide what we think of him.

You can be of the opinion that he’s done, but that’s very limited as far as informed opinions go. There is so little that we actually know right now.

A lot of people thought Mary Winkler was done when she shot her husband in the back with a shotgun and then took off for the beach with her kids. The kids were taken from her and placed with the paternal grandparents, and everyone thought they knew how it would end. A few short years later, she gets time served and is free, and in less than a year she won full custody of her kids back from the grandparents.

So, just pointing out that sometimes we think we know how it’s going to go, and we turn out to be wrong.

That's a rare case. They put her on the stand to cry about being forced to wear lingerie and perform sex acts and that was enough for that Deep South border state jury. But she was still found guilty of voluntary manslaughter.

The exceptions prove the rule.

Again, the DA is a political position. This is a no body case. The CBI and FBI were both involved in presenting the case to the DA and conducted and extensive and professional investigation. This isn't some two bit police department railroading someone.

We have extremely professional law enforcement agencies packaging a case for the DA who, despite the lack of a body, chose to charge this man. That's rare and only typically happens if there's solid evidence.

Is it possible he will somehow escape justice? Yes. Sometimes guilty people escape justice.

Is it possible that the three law enforcement agencies and the DA are wrong and he is innocent? Well anything is possible. But the chances of that are just as slim as the chances that CW was innocent and his wife killed the kids.

That didn't stop many people from bucking hard against the idea of his guilt, and refusing to believe there was a case against him until the very last minute, against all logic.

 

[Blueberry2720]

What time is the court appearance and will it be live-streamed? Thank you in advance.

Snipped by me from PommyMommy's post:

1/4/19 1:30 PM 3.50H FRAZEE, PATRICK Motions Hearing D602018CR330 Teller County DIV 11 - TELLER DISTRICT COURT
Colorado Judicial Branch - Teller County - Dockets

1:30 PM MST
2:30 PM CST
12:30 PM PST
3:30 PM ET

 

[susiQ]

Many cell phones will still ping when turned off. The only way to stop that is to remove the battery or destroy the phone.

Wrap it in tin foil and see if it pings. I can wrap my cell in foil, and stand next to it and call it from my house line. It goes directly to message. It does not ring.

 

[PommyMommy]

Newbie here so be gentle...I hoping not, but to recover Kelsey, it may be that the prosecutor has to cut a deal with the "devil", to get him to give up the location. I think a plea bargain will eventually worked out to recover her body and a trial will be avoided. Maybe that's the ace he's holding to cut a deal. I would, if I were he.

Welcome to Websleuths, BelleinDixie.

@PommyMommy Are cameras allowed today?

I don't think so - just advisements/arraignments, IIRC. MOO

 

[Hatfield]

Many cell phones will still ping when turned off. The only way to stop that is to remove the battery or destroy the phone.

Respectfully, are you sure about that or can provide a link explaining that? I was under the assumption that if a phone is truly turned OFF that it cannot ping a tower.

The only way I have seen it happen is with purposely installed "malware" software that fakes out a user that their phone is off and it is really on , which allows it to ping and to be tracked. LE has this capability but I only heard of it being used in terrorist cases.

 

[sunshineandlove]

The defense will likely use IN and say perhaps she did it due to jealousy or a love triangle. Anything to create a reasonable doubt. I wonder if KB even knew IN existed? MHO

 

[Emi]

One of the motions from today the other 2 I can't upload them cause of long titles
Colorado Judicial Branch

 

[Lhughessk]

Respectfully, are you sure about that or can provide a link explaining that? I was under the assumption that if a phone is truly turned OFF that it cannot ping a tower.

The only way I have seen it happen is with purposely installed "malware" software that fakes out a user that their phone is off and it is really on , which allows it to ping and to be tracked. LE has this capability but I only heard of it being used in terrorist cases.

I tried to research this and got contradictory info. It appears that on older feature phones, it was true that it would ping when turned off. Not so sure on smartphones. If true for them, then an iPhone user would be screwed in his criminal activity because you can’t remove the battery.

 

[Wagtales10]

Im glad PF's closet is being cleaned out.

Im glad his (and many others) attempt to smear KB early on has failed tremendously.

Now we hope justice and closure comes swiftly