CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #41 *ARREST*

[MsBetsy]

What was PF's medication?

Maybe tums or pepto bismol or something like that. Some type of antacid? It didn't indicate that it was prescription. Imo

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

And so much overkill to kill “one petite mommy.”

What a monster.

Not just him. So many people knew. They all are just disgusting,and putrid.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

And then eating a tasty Thanksgiving dinner.
He's a psychopath, plain and simple.
So is KK imho. She also had a hearty appetite afterwards, stopping at Sonic.

Edited to add: I don't think KK came forward out of a "guilty conscience". She came forward to cop a plea because she knew she could face a lot of jail-time if she didn't, and that she'd be implicated as an accomplice. She only wants to save her own hide, imho.


moo

ITA

 

[Warwick7]

I haven't read the affidavit yet.
Thank you to those that have.
On my timeline I have PF/KB/baby K checking on cattle in Westcliff: late on 11-21-19 to 3 am 11-22-19

3 am she drops off Patrick at his home then drives the 17 miles into Walmart to buy him medication. Then drives a 17 miles back to his place, then the 17 Mile to her own home with the baby.

Cheryl berreth said that her daughter told her she got home about 4 a.m.

So is this affidavit saying that during this time they're checking on cattle and Westcliff that he's texting and calliing KB? Aren't they together checking on cattle?

Explain this baby Exchange in an alley??? I thought Slater said there was a video surveillance exactly at 1 p.m. of KB and baby and flowers (she bought at Safeway) and PF all arriving at the same time at her front door???

If this is true, my husband just said you can take care of cattle and be in two different places. You each have a cell phone and you're keeping track of each other and the cattle. It would be an easy way to take care of everything. Okay so I get that. But the only thing that would back it up is if we knew what those texts said.

But I still want an answer to: this baby Exchange in an alley??? I thought Slater said there was a video surveillance exactly at 1 p.m. of KB and baby and flowers (she bought at Safeway) and PF all arriving at the same time at her front door???

 

[The Saint]

I find her whole cleaning exercise weird. She does this for 3-4 hrs- obviously it could have been done for longer- it seems as if she ran out of energy and ran out of supplies. People have said "how could she eat after this," but she does not seem so much horrified and disgusted as just a person who drove a long way and did a lot of cleaning and she just gets hungry like a person doing house work. On some level like a hyena, she seems to revel in the blood- does she think at that point that it proves that PF likes her (KK) because he killed KB? On the other hand, all the blood makes for more work...why for her? Why is this her task? Does she have a master/slave relationship with PF where he assigns her tasks or like a gang where she is supposed to become a "good criminal?" PF still lives at the ranch and she does things such as "drops the metal pipe off at the ranch gate at night." These two do not seem to be lovers so much as criminals together. It also seems IMO that when she "fails" at the coffee and the metal pipe, she is superficially compliant with PF, but she really does not want to do this, so she fails and escapes. Wonder if there are demonstrable threats from him. Wonder if the 3-4 hrs cleaning are another way she is being only superficially compliant, and she is thinking that there are some small spots left but she is not going to "do a better job" to spite PF. Wonder also if she does eventually start to think she is next and there was nothing wrong with KB.

Well, I think #1 is that KK has very low self-esteem. Being a nurse, she may be desensitized to the weird stuff bodies do. PF as well, as it relates to nimalbody functions.

All I can say is that house cleaning is hard enough when it's just grime.
Can you imagine scrubbing a murder victim's innards off the wall?

My mother had a really bad reaction to Fentanyl that was prescribed
to her to use at home after major surgery.

She ended up back in the hospital, and I ended up asking the woman at the hospital info kiosk if she knew of any crime scene cleanup companies...

KK is up to her gills in this.
I want to see her jailed. But I guess it is better to know what happened to KB. But is it all KK lies?

 

[Stunned]

ITA

What does ITA mean?

 

[v0x]

I went to bed last night saying to myself, why wait till the next morning and then get blood everywhere. You're already out in the middle of no-man's-land with cattle. If you want her dead why don't you just kill her out there??? There are multiple scenarios to hiding a killing anywhere out there!! Why wait till the next day inside of her home where it would be so hard to clean up everything???
Something is not adding up!!!!!

Perhaps that was his plan that night, and he lost his nerve. If he asked KKL on 3 separate occasions to do it for him, clearly doing the deed himself wasn’t his first choice.

 

[MtBab]

Did anyone read #28 of the Application and Affidavit for Arrest Warrant about DNA? Just an observation.

 

[gliving]

Gliving posted a photograph of PF leaving the courthouse yesterday, in post 1393 of the last thread. I was surprised to see how different PF looks. He appears to have aged, lost weight, and be worried. He might even be getting a few gray hairs.
Gliving, because thread 40 has closed, would you be kind enough to post it again?

Sure! I should have linked it. His skin pallor is extreme.

Patrick Frazee knocked Kelsey Berreth's teeth out during murder as their toddler sat in her playpen | Daily Mail Online

 

[MsBetsy]

Whatever the correct story, surely, these two realized, that if PF was not arrested, either one would 'remove' the other, so the eliminator was safe: that they could not be incriminated.
There would be another missing person, perhaps never found, as thrown off a cliff etc.

Maybe that's where the missing bullet went. Perhaps KK took a shot at PF and missed, leaving her no choice but to go to LE and blame it all on him. Jmo

 

[Stunned]

Well, I think #1 is that KK has very low self-esteem. Being a nurse, she may be desensitized to the weird stuff bodies do. PF as well, as it relates to nimalbody functions.

All I can say is that house cleaning is hard enough when it's just grime.
Can you imagine scrubbing a murder victim's innards off the wall?

My mother had a really bad reaction to Fentanyl that was prescribed
to her to use at home after major surgery.

She ended up back in the hospital, as I was asking the woman at thehospital info desk if she knew of any crime scene cleanup companies...

KK is up to her gills in this.
I want to see her jailed. But I guess it is better to know what happened to KB. But is it all KK lies?

Me too, sorry she is just as guilty!

 

[Jupiter05]

So what about those cinnamon rolls? Did KK fail to dispose of them or were they a snack for her during her hours long cleaning up of KB's blood?

 

[PommyMommy]

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV
Sam Kraemer Retweeted *********

Sorry I didn't catch this earlier, but yes. There's a live stream here: https://koaa.com/livestream/

4:04 PM - 20 Feb 2019

ETA: Sam's response to question where to watch his report on KK charges

I just listened and it was a very brief report, but "much more" tonight at 10 with an attorney - David McDivitt (sp?).
MOO

 

[SuziQ]

So did SF sit on her front porch and watch her beloved son pick through KB's remains?

Can you tell that I am disgusted? SMH.

 

[Warwick7]

Did anyone read #28 of the Application and Affidavit for Arrest Warrant about DNA? Just an observation.

No I have not had a chance to read the affidavit, what does it say???

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Gliving posted a photograph of PF leaving the courthouse yesterday, in post 1393 of the last thread. I was surprised to see how different PF looks. He appears to have aged, lost weight, and be worried. He might even be getting a few gray hairs.
Gliving, because thread 40 has closed, would you be kind enough to post it again?

From koaa.com screenshot

 

[Herat]

The timeline does not appear to place PF at SF’s home on the afternoon of T-Day until sometime AFTER

Kelsey Berreth case timeline: Everything we know so far

KB TIMELINE Continued....

Nov. 22, 2018

1:24 p.m.: A person matching Frazee’s description is captured entering the front door of Berreth’s apartment on a neighbor’s surveillance camera – which investigators said contradicted what Frazee had told them about a timeline on that day.

Cell tower records show that Frazee’s phone was connected to the tower serving Berreth’s apartment from approximately 1 p.m. to 4:30 p.m. that day..

So, PF can’t have shown up at T-Day dinner at 2:30 and then left around 3:30.

Didn’t his brother stay PF arrived “after 2:30”. 4:30 is 2 hours later, not just after

I think his brother needs to be hauled in, as well as SF. I think they are all at least complicit in assisting after the fact.

 

[Jupiter05]

Perhaps that was his plan that night, and he lost his nerve. If he asked KKL on 3 separate occasions to do it for him, clearly doing the deed himself wasn’t his first choice.

Because his Mommy probably has done everything for him and that is why he demanded KK to do this. His view of women is to serve him or die.

 

[MsBetsy]

So what about those cinnamon rolls? Did KK fail to dispose of them or were they a snack for her during her hours long cleaning up of KB's blood?

It is kind of strange that she didn't just throw them away along with everything else, since she was cleaning up the place. Jmo

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

What does ITA mean?

I totally agree