Mom24
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I'm going to have to look for it.I missed that.
I'm going to have to look for it.I missed that.
The video had a huge impact on me as well. I have been somewhat reluctant to vilify her up til now. Definitely not a KK apologist, but I was trying to see how someone could go that far down a road and maybe still be redeemable.
Then, I saw the Sonic video a few days ago. And KK primping in her rear view mirror IMMEDIATELY after 4 hours of CSI cleanup of a murder scene she had to know she could have prevented. I expected to see someone in shock, someone with a thousand-yard stare. What I saw was someone making sure she looked presentable to her guy.
So that did it for me. I hope she gets 3 years and causes enough trouble in prison to get more added.
Did the mine shaft info come from Sam?? First time I’ve heard that.PF also had the ranch hands cover up the burn area or scorched earth, and I believe that was part of the elk horn alibi.
Also, we learned yesterday that Investigators are still looking for KB's remains including searching old abandoned mining shafts -- of which there are many in Colorado. MOO
Maybe that's why the neighbors cam was pointed that way. But after the poison coffee trip. Kelsey certainly had reason to be worried,about the Sketchy weird chic. Showing up out of the blue.Agreed!
Then this begs the question if they have her pings on each time she sailed into Teller county, then do they have cam corset shots at her door at 9pm?
Hmmmm..........
I'm curious as to where to these mine shafts are.Did the mine shaft info come from Sam?? First time I’ve heard that.
Does anyone else remember something KK said during her testimony about something she helped clean up or saw early on in her relationship with PF, but didn't elaborate on? I can't remember where I read that and I was wondering what that was all about.
They do have pings that show she was in Teller County during each solicitation murder attempt.Agreed!
Then this begs the question if they have her pings on each time she sailed into Teller county, then do they have cam corset shots at her door at 9pm?
Hmmmm..........
I hope so too, and the worst of the worst when she gets out as far as custody of her children, future career opportunities etc.
I do as well - I previously mentioned I don't think we will see sniffling I think we will see the "ugly cry". I'm expecting a withering admonishment and the Judge may even express that he would sentence her to a longer term if it were in his power
IMO
BBM:Here we go -- the alternate could have made for a hung jury!
Vicente ArenasVerified account @vicentearenastv
Frazee Juror: “I thought it was a hard decision” said an alternate juror who wished to remain anonymous. The juror did not vote because of the alternate status. Frazee was found guilty of killing #kelseyberreth on Thanksgiving Day last year. @KDVR @channel2kwgn
The juror shook their head a bit and said “It apparently wasn’t that hard for the others (who voted on the jury)...”
9:09 AM - 19 Nov 2019 from Colorado, USA
9:08 AM - 19 Nov 2019 from Teller County Courthouse
She's even lower than I thought. Insuating herself into Kelsey's and Baby K's life. As if she's the wife/mother. Ready to take over. Putrid,wretched,and pathetic.Yes, I recall sometime between the solicitations and the murder of KB, KK was inside the franch with Baby K while PF was outside dooring chores.
By her account, sounded like KK was playing house -- she changed Baby K, got her dressed, and even put a roast in the crockpot. Also said she cleaned up the house.
More important -- after PF complained that KK did not know how to diaper a child properly and that she probably overseasoned the roast, KK said she decided at that moment that KB was probably not an abuser but a good mother that could not do anything right (in PF's eyes).
MOO
Yup! And since they have a screenshot of KB coming home at 4amThey do have pings that show she was in Teller County during each solicitation murder attempt.
Sam discussed this last night.
Yep. It was the jury picked by both sides. Prosecution,and defence.BBM:
I saw that and about fell out of my chair.
It's nothing short of providential that the juror who "thought it was a hard decision" was an alternate.
Thank you, God, for nullifying that juror's opinion.
JMO.
Agreed!
Then this begs the question if they have her pings on each time she sailed into Teller county, then do they have cam corset shots at her door at 9pm?
Hmmmm..........
I think printouts of the pictures of kk pointing to the burn pit, to the gas can, to where she found Kelsey's blood would be better. You know he'll never forgive/never forget, and that he hates her more than anything on this earth.What's say we wallpaper PF's jail cell with pages and pages and pages of Kelsey's pinterest! If her grieving parents can show mercy to PF, by NOT pushing for the death penalty, if they can leave his life in God hands, if their faith can surpass violence and vengeance, if there's ANY good in that sorry cowboy, maybe after a lifetime plus 156 years, he might be able to reform and repair his heart. Let's give him nothing else to look at but the goodness and truth to which Kelsey subscribed!
I'm assuming he can read.
MOO
That is a good point come to think of it. I'm surprised he didn't use her to clean up the mess and then burn her as well.