Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #26

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From what I understand the poster you're quoting alleges that SW was not entirely truthful on SM about her marriage and job. IMO we ALL tend to promote the positive aspects of our lives, not the negative, especially when building a brand to help bring in money to take care of the kids.

My beloved dog died several months ago. I used to post about him a lot until he began to get sick. I didn't post that he died. I have a new rescue now and no one knows that because I'd have to talk about Sonny Boy.

I don't want to bum anyone out.

Is that not typical?
 
The defense attorneys first goal is to protect his Constitutional rights, they know the goal of any evidence collection by the prosecution is so it to be used against him at trial. The prosecution certainly isn't working tirelessly to prove his innocence. The defense would rather have exculpatory evidence themselves to present than allow the prosecution to have it first and find a way to explain it.

I am certain they will lose and a judge will issue a search warrant though.
I get it! Thanks.
 
Very interesting, but I think there is exceedingly difficult evidence for the hypothetical defense to overcome, should no further evidence be available. It is almost superhuman to go from the complete and utter devastation of finding that your wife just murdered the kids that he says are his life to a cold, calculated cover up from your rage induced murdering of your wife, by the same means used to kill your children. Since we are assuming only facts currently available in this scenario, there would be no clear evidence of who killed the children, completely due to their disposal in crude oil for days at our client's hands. The prosecution would argue that the entire story is the only one that a cornered guilty man could come up with to mitigate his culpability, a man who lies to the police, friends, family, a worried public, to deflect blame entirely, and then when caught red handed and has to figure out a way out of the mess he created, came up with yet a new story to fit the evidence. I just do not think a reasonable jury would take kindly to the idea that a man who go from absolute rage to singular minded, cold, calculated, rehearsed cover up within one hour. The (chillingly proactive) messages by text and call to his dead wife that morning (within just hours of this nightmare scenario) and the calm plea for someone in the public to come forward would be so very damning. Moreover, as many have stated here, the dumping of the bodies of the girls he claimed were his life (in media interview) in crude oil, separately, will be another huge hurdle for anyone to relate. Last, not calling 911 when everyone knows that medics can work miracles we mere non-medic mortals simply cannot to try and save children that by his own story died within moments of his notice is another hurdle. Add in the affair and an expert for the prosecution on how seemingly normal fathers have been known to annihilate when financial and affair issues were present, and I think I'd be loathe to have the job of putting on his defense...not because I thought he was guilty (everyone deserves a rigorous defense) but because, given the facts that we know and those only, it is an incredibly uphill, herculean job. I think the story of a jilted woman killing her children is feasible, perhaps even the rage killing immediately after (assuming he contends he tried to save them and she was fighting him) ...BUT it's the nexus of these events followed by an immediate cold, calculated, unemotional and singularly focused cover up that is just a bridge too far to sell. Just IMO. I completely understand trying to present someone afraid, cornered, searching for a way out of the mess in his story - but despite what many here believe was a botched cover up by him (and it was), there are too many elements of calm, calculated, and cold in the immediate aftermath to get a jury to relate to this man's story. They need to see themselves in his situation and see how they could do it or their husband could do it given the story...and I just do not think that most people will find it relatable and, hence, believable. But what a great exercise! What does everyone else think?
Winner ,Winner Chicken Dinner.
 
My beloved dog died several months ago. I used to post about him a lot until he began to get sick. I didn't post that he died. I have a new rescue now and no one knows that because I'd have to talk about Sonny Boy.

I don't want to bum anyone out.

Is that not typical?
Sorry to hear that, but as the saying goes 'Misery loves company'
 
My beloved dog died several months ago. I used to post about him a lot until he began to get sick. I didn't post that he died. I have a new rescue now and no one knows that because I'd have to talk about Sonny Boy.

I don't want to bum anyone out.

Is that not typical?
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I do think your behavior is outside the norm, but in a good way.
 
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I know I should do the right thing and go back and read but I don't think there are enough hours left in the day.

Ashleigh Banfield had a roommate of CW from Nascar tech on her show - among other things. An excellent recap from @Layla123 can be found at post 710, I think.

The prosecution wants to keep the autopsy reports sealed until trial. Those are the biggies. Happy reading!
 
It will be interesting if the defense New Motion actually pushes the hand of the prosecutor to release some of the cause of death to justify the warrant that Watt is resisting, as in his his motion, he is stating that the prosecution hasn't stated the cause for the body warrant?
I'll have to leave that one for the legal experts!

IIRC it actually had to do with retrieving dna and prints off the babies necks— they had an expert who had been apparently debunked in a prior case who said he would be able to retrieve them despite the bodies being covered in oil.

Actually, that case may be a good source for those WSers who are trying to determine what submersion in oil will do to a body. I don’t remember his name but if you go back to the court motions/news stories from that first Thurs and Friday it should be easy to find.
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My beloved dog died several months ago. I used to post about him a lot until he began to get sick. I didn't post that he died. I have a new rescue now and no one knows that because I'd have to talk about Sonny Boy.

I don't want to bum anyone out.

Is that not typical?

I did the same because I was so upset. Some people were very confused when I referenced the new dog. I just could not talk about it. So I get it.
 
The barbecue was at his own house? Confused. I'm talking about the interview with friends at the barbecue, I thought they said he was acting normal... I'm asking if it was mentioned whether or not he was asked where they girls were, and if so, what did he say? I just cant see a reporter not asking that question.

The girls were at the Sunday BBQ, the birthday party for the young boy---if that is what you are asking...
 
Thank you for this! Are you able to explain the portions (too long to quote) where they are asking for a law change and if the court finds the request constitutional asking the court to defer to the Colorado constitution? This confused me.

Ok, so as we all know, the 5th Amendment (also applicable to the states via the due process clause of the 14th Amendment) protects us from self-incrimination. However, the US Supreme Court has limited this to testimonial evidence. The motion filed by the State is for Non-Testimonial evidence. CW is arguing that the Court should ignore established US Supreme Court precedent and rule that non-testimonial evidence is covered under the protections afforded by the 5th/14th amendments.

If non-testimonial evidence is covered under the the 5th/14th amendment, then CW would be able to take the fifth and would not be required to provide the requested DNA, palm prints, fingerprints and pictures.

CW is asking that the Court defer to the Colorado constitution because it affords greater rights than the US constitution.
 
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