Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #6

[Sjm_qc]

I have access to PACER, let me see what I can dig up (pending the cost LOL)

Hey there . I’m “glad” to see you on this thread, but NOT glad about why we’re here

I’ll chip in for cost if you can find anything. I think there’s a 30$ cap per case/filing. Let me know.

 

[PeekingDuck]

They would not be allowed to sit there.

You're right! I think another poster stated that the older woman rolled in a file case. Probably legal team! Sorry guys. Graves is giving me crazy brain fog today.

 

[cottonweaver]

I agree with you ....I watched a presentation that he gave to a group about " personal relationships " in 2012 on line yesterday, compared to the way that he looked then and now, he is unrecognizable....Even a couple of years ago he looked totally different than he does now....He has aged rapidly, why? From his pictures he seems to have lost a lot of weight and bulked up in recent months/years, he is getting gray rapidly.....Did all of these changes come about because of his failing marriage, financial stress, Thrive Patches ? I keep coming back to the Thrive Patches that he has on in many of the pictures of him on SM....What are the ingredients in these patches? Lots of caffeine I would imagine but what else? Steroids? Unregulated Herbs? Does the LeVel Co list the ingredients in these patches, drinks and pills? Does LeVel provide warnings regarding these ingredients? Are any of these ingredients regulated by the FDA? Could these patches have played a role in this tragedy?

It is my hope that CW's attorneys have these patches tested...I keep harping on these Thrive Patches but they scare me....I don't want a tragedy like this to happen to another family ...

As sad as this story is , my heart aches for the loss of these four people.....He did a horrible , unforgivable thing in taking these lives but I cannot help but feel a twinge of sympathy for him ....Look at him , something has happened not only physically but psychologically as well , he looks gaunt, aged rapidly , almost emaciated ....Could he have a brain tumor ?

I was awakened several times last night thinking about what SW's last moments must have been like....And the innocent children's lives lost forever......I can only hope that SW never knew that her children were dead....

Thinking of the Rzcuek and Watts families ......

Ingredients list here. Basically it's just a rip off food supplement.

An Unbiased Review of Level Thrive - Ancestral Nutrition

As this nutritionist says, the basic Thrive supplement package costs 60 per month whilst as a professional she pays 10 per month for a better quality product.

So they were both on this, that's before all the other spends & inventory that they had to purchase - not incl the payments towards trips, travel, car etc.

 

[Texas Red]

I try to keep an "open mind" until I hear the "alleged" killer's side. After hearing CW's side there's no doubt in my mind that he's guilty. Plus there's been plenty of cases where the mom or the father kills the children because they have become a "disposable burden". But can anyone recall a case where a father and mother both committed murder on the same night? Has there been anything like CW is saying happened in recent history? BOTH parents get murderous on the same night?

I agree and in addition you must also consider that his actions are what destroyed the very evidence that would have potentially supported his versions of events.

 

[Spellbound]

***It was posted multiple times, up thread, that he was fired due to a cocaine positive drug screen, so yes, I speculated, however, Webslueths is about delving into all aspects of a crime, including prescribed and illicit drug use, affairs, money woes, etc...IMO

I know it has been discussed several times, but I do not think we have ever seen a link for it as being a fact. If so, I can't find one. Not finding fault with anyone for repeating it, but without a link it is just speculation and needs to be credited as such. That's what keeps WS a notch above other sites -- we try to make it clear when something has been officially reported or just a hearsay or overheard item.

Hope that made sense.

 

[cottonweaver]

***It was posted multiple times, up thread, that he was fired due to a cocaine positive drug screen, so yes, I speculated, however, Webslueths is about delving into all aspects of a crime, including prescribed and illicit drug use, affairs, money woes, etc...IMO

For sure but did you notice whether the earlier posters had stated the origin. ( It's impossible to keep up with every post as it's moving so fast so I've missed those.)

 

[Herat]

***It was posted multiple times, up thread, that he was fired due to a cocaine positive drug screen, so yes, I speculated, however, Webslueths is about delving into all aspects of a crime, including prescribed and illicit drug use, affairs, money woes, etc...IMO

I think it was "Rumored" or "speculated"

And I'm very sure Anadanko would never release personnel information like that.

 

[Nali87]

I agree and in addition you must also consider that his actions are what destroyed the very evidence that would have potentially supported his versions of events.

Right? And if I walked upon someone hurting my kids (I have no kids) my first focus would be on saving my kids. I'm calling 911, hoping for a miracle. And if I'm certain that two of my babies are dead, causing the death of the third one, my first boy who've I already named, would be the furthest thing on my mind.

I just don't buy it.
I could have "understood" him snapping at the thought of SW leaving and taking the kids. But this? This was pure evil. He just wanted to get rid of them.

 

[enelram]

Can you remember what date the "oops we did it again" pregnancy clip was uploaded? Feels as if he may have started by then. ( Last week I thought his underwhelmed reaction was due to the debts & the pregnancy being her idea. Now can't help thinking he was already having the affair.)

Re your quote above. I remember this one from 4 days later.
June 19th- sonogram and texts from Watts remarking, “Little peanut!! Love her/him already!!!” She wrote: “I love Chris. He’s the best dad us girls could ask for.”

Seems he's used to lying but not really very good at it (unless you really want to believe him cause you're stuck with him)

Don't know that date but I believe a lot of her videos are still up.
Just guessing that would have been in April some time.

 

[The Farm]

I am having a hard time posting,,,is anyone else???

There is no factual proof of cocaine at this time that I have seen, another poster posted something they had seen on a FB page and last I knew on WS here there has been nothing in stone.....unless I missed it.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I don't think he was at work, I expect he was on leave, so he wasn't called in to be fired and escorted off the premises. So there would be no urgency to prepare the documents, like in 5 minutes or something, they aren't timestamped, they can be backdated, if an employee is on leave, the termination can be effective yesterday. Regardless, they weren't going to keep him on as an employee once the bodies were found.

If there had been evidence his wife and children had been abducted, and no evidence he'd had anything to do with it, would they have on the spot fired him for having an affair at work, right in the midst of a nightmare? Probably he would have stayed on leave while the situation unfolded, they don't have to rush into a firing if they don't want to.

Again, I strongly believe, it was due to an existing employment rule that he could not date an employee who was a direct supervisor or vice versa Etc. Him being fired so quickly, could be done easily and the company distance themselves without retribution because of that.

 

[margarita25]

***It was posted multiple times, up thread, that he was fired due to a cocaine positive drug screen, so yes, I speculated, however, Webslueths is about delving into all aspects of a crime, including prescribed and illicit drug use, affairs, money woes, etc...IMO

I did not see this posted multiple times upthread, that he was fired for cocaine use? Anyway, :beatingadeadhorse:

 

[vaporlass]

Sorry, there’s no way he could see the babies “turning blue” on that monitor.
It’s all a crock <modsnip>!
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Not to mention (AGAIN) that he would have called the police to REPORT what happened rather than take these beautiful precious babies and throw them in barrels of oil hoping to remove HIS DNA and any other evidence which might reveal the TRUTH - he murdered his whole family because he’s a selfish, narcissistic monster.

 

[enelram]

I agree he looks to be in excellent shape. Lean and strong. Moo.
From S’s Pinterest, she appeared to be into healthy recipes. All the meals she likely cooked for him with love, ($@:&@...)

And a day or so before she was leaving to go her parents in NC,
she posted that she had to "deep clean the house before leaving
and cook 5 weeks of meals for 'the batchelor' who was going to be there alone.' She was the caretaker all along.

 

[margarita25]

And a day or so before she was leaving to go her parents in NC,
she posted that she had to "deep clean the house before leaving
and cook 5 weeks of meals for 'the batchelor' who was going to be there alone.' She was the caretaker all along.

Sickening!!!!

 

[Jacquie1]

Going back to what the judge said today (paraphrasing, going off memory) “mr watts do you understand the prosecution has indicated these charges are the direct result of domestic violence”?

I wonder if the prosecution plans to show a pattern of escallation in domestic abuse, leading to the murders?

 

[vaporlass]

Again, I strongly believe, it was due to an existing employment rule that he could not date an employee who was a direct supervisor or vice versa Etc. Him being fired so quickly, could be done easily and the company distance themselves without retribution because of that.

Pretty sure it was more than enough “just cause” when he admitted to burying a body on the property and dumping small children into oil tanks!

 

[CeaElle]

I think it was "Rumored" or "speculated"

And I'm very sure Anadanko would never release personnel information like that.

I stand corrected, I am unable to locate a msm published report, stating why CW was fired, however, I stand by my premise that if we can speculate on affairs, money issues, mental health and other possibilities, that speculating on possible drug use is acceptable. IMO

 

[RavenCC2020]

For anyone fearing this guy could end up with a hung jury. I personally don't think that will happen but I've been wrong before too.

So, let's look at the facts here. CW has totally painted himself into the corner here by not only confessing but worse, ACCUSING his wife of killing the children. I don't know many people after learning this would be OK with him not testifying to eloborate on this. Seriously, his claim is SOOO outrageous that most people would not simply take his word for it and be OK with him not testifying. Most attorney's would advise their clients not to but this is just that one in a million case where he really doesn't have a choice BUT to if he wishes to convinve a jury that his confession is true. No doubt the prosecution has numerous people available to them to testify about her good character and how wonderful she was with her children.

I understand a jury is expected to give the benefit of the doubt TO a defendent if two scenarios are possible. Still, in this case that simply won't fly. Jurors WANTING to give him the benefit of the doubt are going to want answers to some very obvious questions. If he did in fact see what she was doing on the baby cam why didn't he scream up at her and hope to interrupt her from what she was doing. Why didn't he run up to stop her from strangling the 2cnd child, surely he could overpower her. Why didn't he call 911 and forceably restrain her until they arrived. Why would his first reaction be to strangle and kill her and not attempt to revive a child or call 911 in hopes at least one of the girls could be saved. Why did he not call 911 after he killed her? Why move the bodies and especially why would he dump the children he loved so much in an oil tank to rot. There are many more answers a jury would want I am just picking these off the top of my head.

Nope, he has to testify and hope he is a good enough actor to pull it off. We already saw he is not through his own interviews after the fact. Even more damning to him is that he flat out lied during them therefore who would honestly believe a word the guy said.

Again he surely painted himself into the corner here BY accusing her. He can't even attempt to pawn this one off on his girlfriend now because yet another change in story at this point will convict him. He's going down. Absolutely sure of it. His best chance is a plea deal and spare everyone the angst of a trial.

 

[NanZDrew]

I made a map of his likely route that morning from home to the well site and then to the Anadarko Midstream plant which is where they process the gas. I am not sure that this is the plant that he worked at, but it is close to his home. He dumped them at a well site that was a very small well site at that. It could even be one that was not producing very much, if at all. Likely, it would be a long time before anyone went out there. He covered alot of miles. Had he had more time, those bodies would probably never been discovered. The left behind purse, cell phone and other items that she had at all times, along with the quick discovery, tripped him up.