GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #68

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I have a very vivid imagination! I always got the impression the DA Rourk didn't like NK. What if LE suspected her, but couldn't do anything as long as CW stuck to his story. Then, Feb 18th, LE meets with CW and lays out photos on a table; NK with her new lover going out to dinner, dancing, doing things lovers do. She's happy, her life is good! Maybe they had some recoded conversations. That is how the Feds got Sammy Gravano to turn on John Gotti. Video and recordings of John Gotti disparaging Sammy and disrespecting him!

So, LE says: "look Chris, Nichol is so happy and in love. Moving on. She's forgotten all about you. Listen to what she's said about you! She said; the cheese was already slipping off your cracker, when she met you! What do you think of that Chris?"

Chris has already shown he's not too smart and he can be manipulated.

Can't wait until Mar. 07th!

Note; "Cheese slipping from cracker" is an actual quote NK made to LE.


Wow! I can not wait until March 7th to hear and read this!!!

I totally understand what your saying and i can see that haooening and him turning on her but what would he have to gain? Could they offer him dropping of charges or amenities in prison?

Wouldn’t they have arrested her already if he did turn on her?

I’m not trying to question your theory or be rude- totally not my intention- just wondering about those 3 questions
 
So Ronny brags (today, Thursday) that CW calls him every night. This is the 28th Feb.
Local, State, and Federal investigators interviewed him on 18 Feb.

I think he doesn't share too much with Ronny. Poor mom, I wonder if she's going to throw out another "I forgive you, Son".
According to family friends doing podcasts, he does not talk about the case with them. This article seems to confirm that by quoting his father as saying he wasn’t told what the conversation was about. It has been widely reported that CW has become very, very enmeshed with the Bible in prison...perhaps this is his coming clean for religious reasons? Or perhaps he sought a prison concession? I love that the same two CBI agents from the lie detector and original confession were there for this interview and I can’t wait to hear it. I think if he is truly a believer now that his salvation lies in the truth, he won’t sugar coat things (in particular his motivations and premeditation) nor push blame. We shall see!
 
I think this is about CW coming clean, and not about him trying to throw NK under the bus.

This was a personal crime, and “family annihilators” don’t enlist others to help them.

All the evidence we have seen, indicates that NK was not involved in this crime.

This evidence includes surveillance footage from a neighbor’s camera.

CW waited until Shanann got home, killed his family, and disposed of them.

She didn’t help.

We all think negatively of NK, but that doesn’t make her complicit in the crime.

She wasn’t.
 
According to family friends doing podcasts, he does not talk about the case with them. This article seems to confirm that by quoting his father as saying he wasn’t told what the conversation was about. It has been widely reported that CW has become very, very enmeshed with the Bible in prison...perhaps this is his coming clean for religious reasons? Or perhaps he sought a prison concession? I love that the same two CBI agents from the lie detector and original confession were there for this interview and I can’t wait to hear it. I think if he is truly a believer now that his salvation lies in the truth, he won’t sugar coat things (in particular his motivations and premeditation) nor push blame. We shall see!
Yes I do wonder if becoming more religious has part of him coming clean. March 7th can’t come soon enough
 
Chris Watts tells investigators more details about murders

The Colorado Bureau of Investigation said Thursday that investigators from CBI, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Frederick Police Department met with Watts on Feb. 18 “for the purpose of developing further insight into the case.”

Though the release from CBI Thursday did not disclose any further details about what Watts unveiled in the interview, the Greeley Tribune reports , citing sources close to the investigation, that Watts told investigators how and why he murdered his family – something he himself had not outright discussed previously.

So, maybe just CW finally coming clean. That would be welcome!
 
HUH? If he didn’t kill those girls then why say "It's over and done with,"


Ronnie Watts, said "In my heart I know he didn't kill those girls."

"It's over and done with," Ronnie Watts said of the case. "I am confused why they [the investigators] went out there in the first place."

Chris Watts, man who killed pregnant wife and daughters, provides new details on murders to investigators: Officials
My personal take on his conflicting statements is that Ronnie can’t face his son is a child killer. I cannot imagine what that would feel like. I don’t think he wants to know the truth. Perhaps they will never accept it, even in detail out of their son’s own mouth.
 
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I think this is about CW coming clean, and not about him trying to throw NK under the bus.

This was a personal crime, and “family annihilators” don’t enlist others to help them.

All the evidence we have seen, indicates that NK was not involved in this crime.

This evidence includes surveillance footage from a neighbor’s camera.

CW waited until Shanann got home, killed his family, and disposed of them.

She didn’t help.

We all think negatively of NK, but that doesn’t make her complicit in the crime.

She wasn’t.

Like I said, I have a vivid imagination. But, after further consideration and deep thought, I agree with you.
 
HUH? If he didn’t kill those girls then why say "It's over and done with,"


Ronnie Watts, said "In my heart I know he didn't kill those girls."

"It's over and done with," Ronnie Watts said of the case. "I am confused why they [the investigators] went out there in the first place."

Chris Watts, man who killed pregnant wife and daughters, provides new details on murders to investigators: Officials
This galls me! The nerve of Ronnie saying it's over and done with, why would investigators even talk to CW.

Maybe because SW's family has tons of tons of questions!!!

Hopefully CW is taking all of his "bible reading" to heart and has decided to tell the WHOLE story. I have my doubts though.
 
Wow! I can not wait until March 7th to hear and read this!!!

I totally understand what your saying and i can see that haooening and him turning on her but what would he have to gain? Could they offer him dropping of charges or amenities in prison?

Wouldn’t they have arrested her already if he did turn on her?

I’m not trying to question your theory or be rude- totally not my intention- just wondering about those 3 questions


I also wanted to clarify- i do not think NK was involved. I don’t think i made that clear in my first post
 
Why on earth did this interview happen?! Since when do state and federal investigators fly out of state to speak to an inmate...again...and AFTER a case has been closed?!

I can't imagine that they would spend tax dollars just to have CW repeat his originally story. I also can't imagine they would do this even if he was ready to admit he killed the girls. He could give any major news outlet that interview. The investigators have done their job at this point and do6nt care if he's ready to tell the truth, seeing as how he's already been convicted.

So that leaves....NK involvement??
 
This galls me! The nerve of Ronnie saying it's over and done with, why would investigators even talk to CW.

Maybe because SW's family has tons of tons of questions!!!

Hopefully CW is taking all of his "bible reading" to heart and has decided to tell the WHOLE story. I have my doubts though.
I think that’s exactly what happened, he’s actually motivated to come clean, as a result of his newfound religious devotion.

It’s crazy, and hypocritical, but I believe it.

This is about getting answers for SW’s family, and putting to rest some lingering questions.

We’re all skeptical, but we know when this guy is lying to us.

We’ll have a good idea of what he says, is true or not.
 
Wow! I can not wait until March 7th to hear and read this!!!

I totally understand what your saying and i can see that haooening and him turning on her but what would he have to gain? Could they offer him dropping of charges or amenities in prison?

Wouldn’t they have arrested her already if he did turn on her?

I’m not trying to question your theory or be rude- totally not my intention- just wondering about those 3 questions

Those are good questions. However, I've changed my position, MassGuy is correct, all evidence points only to CW as the killer. No video of NK in the Watts home the night of the murders. Only CW.
 
Why on earth did this interview happen?! Since when do state and federal investigators fly out of state to speak to an inmate...again...and AFTER a case has been closed?!

I can't imagine that they would spend tax dollars just to have CW repeat his originally story. I also can't imagine they would do this even if he was ready to admit he killed the girls. He could give any major news outlet that interview. The investigators have done their job at this point and do6nt care if he's ready to tell the truth, seeing as how he's already been convicted.

So that leaves....NK involvement??
He already admitted he killed the girls. Plead guilty to killing each one. But I agree LE would not publicize this interview with him if he went backwards from or just repeated the guilty counts in his plea deal.
 
This appears to be him finally giving the answers we want as to how this went down.

We’ll be able to tell if it rings true or not.

CBI: Chris Watts provides more details about murders of wife, two daughters

Although he pleaded guilty, Watts never disclosed how or why he carried out the murders. Sources close to the investigation say Watts has finally confessed those details.

Wow... One of us will reserve judgement until we hear the words as we all know what his track record is like!!
 
If he does come clean, this is valuable insight for research into family annihilators. I still can’t get over how quickly resolution has come in this case. When combined with the volume of video of the family from FB, it is truly a wealth of information in the lives of the victims, perpetrator, and families we almost never have an iota of in any other case, as well as justice and documentation release coming out so quickly...and dare I dream...fully come March 7th? This is amazing.
 
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