clearskies1
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Their marriage was in tatters apparently. Waiting to see what physical evidence they have.
Right. If it ran out of charge they would have found it, meaning it was moved.If we learn that phone was traveling, then it’s game over.
Suzanne was sleeping, and her phone shouldn’t have gone dark at that time anyway. So either way it’s bad, but the former is devastating.
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Harris said at one point, Barry put a gun to Suzanne's head and asked, "Is this what you want?" He had also pinned her to the bed. She threatened to call police, Harris said. He added Barry was worried about how others saw their marriage & wanted "to come out looking good."
Barry had a very pressuring job. Plus trying to make money for the family
Terrible to say, but I sure hope they have more proof than just text messages to Sheila of Barry’s abuse. The defense could turn this into Suzanne not telling the truth to set Barry up. I believe her, but we need more for court.
Right. If it ran out of charge they would have found it, since they didn't it was moved.If we learn that phone was traveling, then it’s game over.
Suzanne was sleeping, and her phone shouldn’t have gone dark at that time anyway. So either way it’s bad, but the former is devastating.
Note to self:
Listening to forensic file crime podcasts in my car could one day be used as evidence against me.![]()
The YT by Draper went national (and even allowed here). I think any comment from BM's mother saying SM had a boyfriend was social media rumor.Someone else posted earlier that BM's mom said SM had a boyfriend to one of the YouTube people who met BM and his mom during a search. I haven't watched any of the YT videos related to this case so I don't know what was said and when but hopefully the person who caught that can chime in.
Nope! We owned a business for over 20 years somewhat similar and it was very hard on our marriage because IT WAS VERY PRESSURING. You have to measure up and protect your reputation AND make money!Um what? You're being facetious I imagine. It has been established he is a hard worker, no question. The pressure however appears to have come from financial strain of his own doing, not his job per se.
Had time for Volunteer Firefighters. As it turns out Suzanne was subsidizing his play time.Barry had a very pressuring job. Plus trying to make money for the family
Threatening suicide if one leaves is also control.
Stephanie (Butzer) RoseCan you find where anyone tweeted the phrase "Suzanne's head?" There are so many different tweeters, that'd be great. Lauren says the opposite, I can't find "Suzanne's head" in any tweet yet.
So frustrating to be depending on so many keyboard strokes...
I just want the evidence to be super strong. I don’t want there to be any question of exactly what happened. We had heard rumblings of how bad the marriage was, and how the kids may have known, and it turns out that was more right than wrong. I think that we are going to have to make the jump that Suzanne wasn’t the perfect wife either, and maybe she didn’t want to leave her life and all her money behind to start again at 50. This is about Suzanne’s murder. The evidence must be there, without her body and no blood, to hold Barry over for trial. Crossing fingers and toes.If these texts go back to 2018 though, that is a long time to set someone up for something. It to me shows more a pattern of abuse that she confided in a good friend about. Add that to the spy pen recordings. It's clear Suzanne was trying to leave a trail in case the worst happened.I knew it was bad, but I didn't think this bad as far as the control and total manipulation of even her relationship with her girls.